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Keys...Keys...Keychain Pokemon... For firetrucks sakes, they are doing this on purpose now. I hope people stop giving the old excuse of earlier gens having bad designs, because it's 2013; the future. Can't wait for the WiiU Pokemon. #imdoneAh screw spoilers, the other forum is spoiling me to no end, I know mega evos of a lot now. Speaking of which:

MegaGardevoir popped in a review, not sure which one.Sableye might get a mega evo. Haha... AhahahaI won't say anymore, unless by request.

 

Lol,every gen has to have a Pokemon like this,deal with it.....it's been a fact for years now and getting angry at it won't make it go away.Yes they're doing it on purpose and that won't change anything....Yu gi oh had a lot of those and even worse

 

And it's a wild Pokemon you don't have to catch it.....avoid it like how you avoided Trubbish,Garbodor,Bidoof,Voltorb,Electrode...the list goes on

 

AHHH A KEY CHAIN....GAME RUINED FOREVEEEEEEER

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Lol,every gen has to have a Pokemon like this,deal with it.....it's been a fact for years now and getting angry at it won't make it go away.Yes they're doing it on purpose and that won't change anything....Yu gi oh had a lot of those and even worseAnd it's a wild Pokemon you don't have to catch it.....avoid it like how you avoided Trubbish,Garbodor,Bidoof,Voltorb,Electrode...the list goes onAHHH A KEY CHAIN....GAME RUINED FOREVEEEEEEER

Love how the first thing I said, guy still balantly says it.Keep putting words into my mouth. Keep going...Also that's not even the start,

the binnacle Pokemon is confirmed, evo is confirmed, evo is a... Gosh it make Garbodor look decent.

I'm still wondering how easy is it to EV train, as I can't transfer over power items.

Not needed, and I am not sure how.

 

It is needed.

All leaks and even mention of what the Pokémon is needs to be in spoiler tags. 

This is how you make a spoiler tag:

 

[/ spoiler] 

 

but without the space inbetween "/" and "spoiler" 

 

 

Sorry if this has already been posted, but I think I just found the Gen VI Vanillte/Garbador counterpart:

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Alph Art can you spoiler tag this in the future or anything leaked that is Pokémon X and Y related? I kind of wanted not to know any of these Pokémon at all, despite hearing their names for every 5 seconds. 

Love how the first thing I said, guy still balantly says it.Keep putting words into my mouth. Keep going...Also that's not even the start,

the binnacle Pokemon is confirmed, evo is confirmed, evo is a... Gosh it make Garbodor look decent.

I'm still wondering how easy is it to EV train, as I can't transfer over power items.

I didn't put words,I was just presenting the whole drama again everytime one of those appears

 

So what if those actually existed???Yu gi oh has a TON of those especially starting with GX and they increased in ZeXal .......every monster battles franchise has to have some of those and Pokemon is no exception......every Gen from Gen 1 to Gen 5 has to have object-based Pokemon,it's nothing new yet you guys keep the drama as if every single one of those are the sins of Ken Sugimori coming to life.

 

You can't expect every 100 new Pokemon to be beautiful and perfect......I've seen those object based Pokemon coming miles away even when X & Y were announced....and Besides,at least Garbodor is more useful than Muk

 

 

As for EV training,wasn't Pokemon Amie and Super Training made specifically for??

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It is needed.

All leaks and even mention of what the Pokémon is needs to be in spoiler tags. 

This is how you make a spoiler tag:

 

[/ spoiler] 

 

but without the space inbetween "/" and "spoiler" 

 

 

 

 

Alph Art can you spoiler tag this in the future or anything leaked that is Pokémon X and Y related? I kind of wanted not to know any of these Pokémon at all, despite hearing their names for every 5 seconds. 

We don`t know if it`s real. Maybe Alph can put:

 

UNSURE IF REAL OR NOT

 

 

If it is found. If it has legit artwork, then it`s in spoilers.

I didn't put words,I was just presenting the whole drama again everytime one of those appearsSo what if those actually existed???Yu gi oh has a TON of those especially starting with GX and they increased in ZeXal .......every monster battles franchise has to have some of those and Pokemon is no exception......every Gen from Gen 1 to Gen 5 has to have object-based Pokemon,it's nothing new yet you guys keep the drama as if every single one of those are the sins of Ken Sugimori coming to life.You can't expect every 100 new Pokemon to be beautiful and perfect......I've seen those object based Pokemon coming miles away even when X & Y were announced....and Besides,at least Garbodor is more useful than MukAs for EV training,wasn't Pokemon Amie and Super Training made specifically for??

I don't have much clues for that franchise, but they're excusable as they have a hell of a lot more designs to deal with, so it's excusable. (To an extent) So drama in the bad side is not accepted, but good drama is all good. Woo didn't know we had to be happy about something all the time. Sounds like a... Yeah I'm not going on.

Apparently only 70 new Pokemon are rumored to be new, not counting mega evolution. Look at how many meh to wtf designs has there been so far.

Pokemon amie sounds like a gimmick. Wouldn't surprise me if all you get is a pathetic 1-5 EV points for one session of training, when I can get 10+ points for everything I defeat (or in this gen, capture) for EV points. Now if it's a lot of points, I'd be happy to use it. Sad part is I'll probably end up using it if power items aren't available via random giveaway from a NPC. Inb4battlepoints

I don't have much clues for that franchise, but they're excusable as they have a hell of a lot more designs to deal with, so it's excusable. (To an extent)So drama in the bad side is not accepted, but good drama is all good. Woo didn't know we had to be happy about something all the time. Sounds like a... Yeah I'm not going on.

Apparently only 70 new Pokemon are rumored to be new, not counting mega evolution. Look at how many meh to wtf designs has there been so far.

Pokemon amie sounds like a gimmick. Wouldn't surprise me if all you get is a pathetic 1-5 EV points for one session of training, when I can get 10+ points for everything I defeat (or in this gen, capture) for EV points. Now if it's a lot of points, I'd be happy to use it. Sad part is I'll probably end up using it if power items aren't available via random giveaway from a NPC. Inb4battlepoints

Pokemon has 650+ designs and that is still not enough to deal with for you???So it's excusable in Yu gi oh but unexcusable in Pokemon...what kind of sense does that make???

 

You can still catch ANY of the Pokemon from previous regions as Gen 1,Gen3 and Gen4 Pokemon will be plentiful in the wild since they have lots of Mega evolutions

 

Get a Mawile if you don't like that Key chain Pokemon....problem solved...that's your excuse for design....

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I don't have much clues for that franchise, but they're excusable as they have a hell of a lot more designs to deal with, so it's excusable. (To an extent)So drama in the bad side is not accepted, but good drama is all good. Woo didn't know we had to be happy about something all the time. Sounds like a... Yeah I'm not going on.

Apparently only 70 new Pokemon are rumored to be new, not counting mega evolution. Look at how many meh to wtf designs has there been so far.

Pokemon amie sounds like a gimmick. Wouldn't surprise me if all you get is a pathetic 1-5 EV points for one session of training, when I can get 10+ points for everything I defeat (or in this gen, capture) for EV points. Now if it's a lot of points, I'd be happy to use it. Sad part is I'll probably end up using it if power items aren't available via random giveaway from a NPC. Inb4battlepoints

They're  not 'wtf' designs. It's the fact on if they're good for fighting with or not. They MIGHT, but that's not what it's about. The 'wtf' designs confirms only 70? OR, did you mean, Apparently only 70 new Pokemon are rumored to be new, in the context of 70 more pokemon to be revealed.

I love how so many fans are going nuts and getting angry over this game. It's like, calm down and wait for the game to come out.

We don`t know if it`s real. Maybe Alph can put:

 

UNSURE IF REAL OR NOT

 

 

If it is found. If it has legit artwork, then it`s in spoilers.

 

 

No that doesn't make sense. 42 copies went out already so yes these are spoilers. They have leaked online so it is a spoiler.

Legit Artwork doesn't count as a spoiler if it is officially revealed before October 12th. 

 

OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT FROM GAMEFREAK AND NINTENDO = No spoiler tags

LEAKS, MENTIONS OF THE POKÉMON (FROM NAME, TYPE, WHAT IT IS, ETC.) AND FANART = Spoiler tags.

I love how so many fans are going nuts and getting angry over this game. It's like, calm down and wait for the game to come out.

 

I'm glad someone understands.

They're  not 'wtf' designs. It's the fact on if they're good for fighting with or not. They MIGHT, but that's not what it's about. The 'wtf' designs confirms only 70? OR, did you mean, Apparently only 70 new Pokemon are rumored to be new, in the context of 70 more pokemon to be revealed.

70 new Pokemon. Not a lot in comparison to the previous gen, if we don't count mega evolutions. (As that might as well be over 70)

 

What I meant was imo there's a lot of weird to bad ideas. I mean a keychain Pokemon? Anyone could have come up with this. Makes me wonder if they hire random people on the streets to come up with the idea lol. 

 

Pokemon has 650+ designs and that is still not enough to deal with for you???So it's excusable in Yu gi oh but unexcusable in Pokemon...what kind of sense does that make???

 

You can still catch ANY of the Pokemon from previous regions as Gen 1,Gen3 and Gen4 Pokemon will be plentiful in the wild since they have lots of Mega evolutions

 

Get a Mawile if you don't like that Key chain Pokemon....problem solved...that's your excuse for design....

You totally missed my point. I said franchises like that are bound to have shitty designs because they've probably used up so much of there imagination, they're bound to slap on ugly designs to make more cards. With Pokemon, there are only 650+ Pokemon, and you're telling me they can't make decent designs, or Pokemon based off mythology, or whatever? Sure there's those genies, but hey, good background stories. Cotton (gonna get a lot of hate for this), coral (next Garbodor), then keychains... yet we still don't have a dolphin Pokemon, etc, see where I'm coming with this? I'm just a average everyday man coming up with ideas (as many out there are), yet a company with people so talented, full of idea, spit out a keychain. lol I'd imagine someone throwing whatever object they have in their hand, and say "here's the next design. Add eyes and you're job here is done."

 

I'm just stating what I think.

 

Speaking in general+as stated before, is it going to hurt because I say a negative subject on Pokemon? I have a friend who told me a while back "Sylveon looks stupid, I don't like it." You don't see me saying "oh mah gawd calm down you mad lady! Stop complaining" It's just a firetrucking opinion and I respect it. Apparently the game is perfect, so we should all praise it and speak only positive stuff.

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k thx bai

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70 new Pokemon. Not a lot in comparison to the previous gen, if we don't count mega evolutions. (As that might as well be over 70)

 

What I meant was imo there's a lot of weird to bad ideas. I mean a keychain Pokemon? Anyone could have come up with this. Makes me wonder if they hire random people on the streets to come up with the idea lol. 

 

You totally missed my point. I said franchises like that are bound to have shitty designs because they've probably used up so much of there imagination, they're bound to slap on ugly designs to make more cards. With Pokemon, there are only 650+ Pokemon, and you're telling me they can't make decent designs, or Pokemon based off mythology, or whatever? Sure there's those genies, but hey, good background stories. Cotton (gonna get a lot of hate for this), coral (next Garbodor), then keychains... yet we still don't have a dolphin Pokemon, etc, see where I'm coming with this? I'm just a average everyday man coming up with ideas (as many out there are), yet a company with people so talented, full of idea, spit out a keychain. lol I'd imagine someone throwing whatever object they have in their hand, and say "here's the next design. Add eyes and you're job here is done."

 

I'm just stating what I think.

 

Speaking in general+as stated before, is it going to hurt because I say a negative subject on Pokemon? I have a friend who told me a while back "Sylveon looks stupid, I don't like it." You don't see me saying "oh mah gawd calm down you mad lady! Stop complaining" It's just a firetrucking opinion and I respect it. Apparently the game is perfect, so we should all praise it and speak only positive stuff.

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k thx bai

Techinally, a Keychain is pretty creative. Even though Nintendo is "running out of ideas", those random ideas are creative. I still DO NOT want a bag of chips, or a car, though.

Techinally, a Keychain is pretty creative. Even though Nintendo is "running out of ideas", those random ideas are creative. I still DO NOT want a bag of chips, or a car, though.

Well we have the ice cream Pokemon. Not going to even comment if this or next gen has doritos, as the "imagination" speaks for itself. 

70 new Pokemon. Not a lot in comparison to the previous gen, if we don't count mega evolutions. (As that might as well be over 70)

 

What I meant was imo there's a lot of weird to bad ideas. I mean a keychain Pokemon? Anyone could have come up with this. Makes me wonder if they hire random people on the streets to come up with the idea lol. 

 

You totally missed my point. I said franchises like that are bound to have shitty designs because they've probably used up so much of there imagination, they're bound to slap on ugly designs to make more cards. With Pokemon, there are only 650+ Pokemon, and you're telling me they can't make decent designs, or Pokemon based off mythology, or whatever? Sure there's those genies, but hey, good background stories. Cotton (gonna get a lot of hate for this), coral (next Garbodor), then keychains... yet we still don't have a dolphin Pokemon, etc, see where I'm coming with this? I'm just a average everyday man coming up with ideas (as many out there are), yet a company with people so talented, full of idea, spit out a keychain. lol I'd imagine someone throwing whatever object they have in their hand, and say "here's the next design. Add eyes and you're job here is done."

 

I'm just stating what I think.

 

Speaking in general+as stated before, is it going to hurt because I say a negative subject on Pokemon? I have a friend who told me a while back "Sylveon looks stupid, I don't like it." You don't see me saying "oh mah gawd calm down you mad lady! Stop complaining" It's just a firetrucking opinion and I respect it. Apparently the game is perfect, so we should all praise it and speak only positive stuff.

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k thx bai

I never said don't criticize Pokemon,heck I used to bitch about Gen 3 so many times before and I might have complains about X & Y

 

But I never gone out of my way and make a big deal of it like you do

 

The reason such designs exists is because they want to save the others for the next game ...has this idea EVER occured to you....??? I don't think so

 

If they rushed out every great design they have,then they might risk running out of ideas because they spent them way too fast

 

Also,don't forget that the USA branch design some Pokemon

 

I never said the games are perfect(although everyone say Sony is perfect,just sayin) and there will never exist a perfect game

 

But I just wanna say.....reserve judgement until the game is released

I never said don't criticize Pokemon,heck I used to bitch about Gen 3 so many times before and I might have complains about X & Y

 

But I never gone out of my way and make a big deal of it like you do

 

The reason such designs exists is because they want to save the others for the next game ...has this idea EVER occured to you....??? I don't think so

 

If they rushed out every great design they have,then they might risk running out of ideas because they spent them way too fast

 

Also,don't forget that the USA branch design some Pokemon

 

I never said the games are perfect(although everyone say Sony is perfect,just sayin) and there will never exist a perfect game

 

But I just wanna say.....reserve judgement until the game is released

It's called details. Besides, I'm certain you or someone else would have asked "why?" and the end result would be me expressing myself. What's the difference, it was bound to happen.

 

Really? Is that's the best excuse they could come up with? There's a lot of species in this world, just sayian. 

 

I'm still disappointed at USA for doing ugly designs, but there were a lot were good ones. (If memory serves me right, Golurk was one) 

 

The bold statement is what's making me laugh right now. There's no difference, let's say after I play it, I say "the story was pale in comparison to the previous gens. [insert details here]" People will still say "stop making a big deal" etc. Which baffles me because they say it when it's something negative, oh but make it a positive statement, everyone is happy. You see why I said people only want to see praise and nothing else? I'll drop it from here.

This game is tearing us appart.

That`s no reason to not like them. Well, it is... but...they can be good pokemon, just not how they look. I mean, look at Sigilyth, or however you spell it. It looks weird, but it`s amazing.

I know I know, but for me the design is important. Comparing Charizard to Delphox, we have an obvious winner. But I see your point and I totally agree that the appearance doesn't make a pokemon, but for me it means a lot.

It's called details. Besides, I'm certain you or someone else would have asked "why?" and the end result would be me expressing myself. What's the difference, it was bound to happen.

 

Really? Is that's the best excuse they could come up with? There's a lot of species in this world, just sayian. 

 

I'm still disappointed at USA for doing ugly designs, but there were a lot were good ones. (If memory serves me right, Golurk was one) 

 

The bold statement is what's making me laugh right now. There's no difference, let's say after I play it, I say "the story was pale in comparison to the previous gens. [insert details here]" People will still say "stop making a big deal" etc. Which baffles me because they say it when it's something negative, oh but make it a positive statement, everyone is happy. You see why I said people only want to see praise and nothing else? I'll drop it from here.

I don't mind criticism as long as it's detailed and not half baked

 

If their stats turned out to be bad then I'll agree with you

 

But if their stats,abilities and moveset are decent I might end up using one at least temporarily until I catch a Mawile

I know I know, but for me the design is important. Comparing Charizard to Delphox, we have an obvious winner. But I see your point and I totally agree that the appearance doesn't make a pokemon, but for me it means a lot.

Delphox is FirePsychic which can be very useful

 

Charizard's X design is so awesome but you have to remember,unless you lead with Charizard,it's gonna be killed by Stealth Rock upon send out

Delphox is FirePsychic which can be very useful

Think about the disadvantages, though:

-Is partially weak to Bug-type moves

-Is weak to Dark-type moves

-Is weak to Ghost-type moves

-Is weak to Rock-type moves

-Is weak to Ground-type moves

-Is weak to Water-type moves

It seems that it would be fairly vulnerable in many cases.

Think about the disadvantages, though:

-Is partially weak to Bug-type moves

-Is weak to Dark-type moves

-Is weak to Ghost-type moves

-Is weak to Rock-type moves

-Is weak to Ground-type moves

-Is weak to Water-type moves

It seems that it would be fairly vulnerable in many cases.

Maybe,but if it's like Victini it'll be fine

 

Victini is a total badass(A cute badass I might say) when you give it the right set of moves and a Focus Sash to secure him from one hit KOs from his weaknesses

I would say stop being a bunch of whiny babies (and I just did), but this is the internet, so...whine away.

I would say stop being a bunch of whiny babies (and I just did), but this is the internet, so...whine away.

How long it took you to realize this is the internet? 

 

 

Think about the disadvantages, though:

-Is partially weak to Bug-type moves

-Is weak to Dark-type moves

-Is weak to Ghost-type moves

-Is weak to Rock-type moves

-Is weak to Ground-type moves

-Is weak to Water-type moves

It seems that it would be fairly vulnerable in many cases.

 

True. We'll have to see how well GF distributed the base stats. It could turn out to be better than Victini, although it's highly unlikely as it has a good movepool. There's also non-attacking/support moves to consider. (Which Victini sorta lacks in, bar Trick Room which helps it a lot lol)

How long it took you to realize this is the internet? 

 

I didn't imply that I just discovered it or anything. Don't know how you came to that.

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