at the end of 3d, master xehanort says "we are out of time, we must all return whence we came" what does he mean by that? im so confused, and im pretty sure it will tie into kh3

Pretty sure it means return to their original timelines and such. 

The "new" Org.XIII was gathered there for a small amount of time . They also gathered up there from different times and periods . Xehanort means that they have to get back to the time from when they got there  . And after that he says that the "event" (The Clash) is inevitable(or something , I am not sure) . But Flaming Lea should explain that better ....

Edited February 7, 201411 yr by Nick Sideris

Return to human form? 

Honestly?

I think Namura's been tossing in a few religious things in KH, and maybe Kingdom Hearts is supposed to be taken as a force that rules fate and consquence.

That's my idea on it, anyway.

Pretty sure it means return to their original timelines and such. 

but then if they return to there timelines, who are the 13 darknesses that we will fight in kh3? if they all return to their timeline then they wont appear in kh3?

They went back to their originations:

 

Master Xehanort returned to the Keyblade Graveyard to battle Terra

Xemnas returned to The World that Never Was to admire Kingdom Hearts

Ansem returned to Destiny Islands to possess Riku

Young Xehanort returned to Destiny Islands to build a raft

Xigbar returned to The World that Never Was to continue eavesdropping on Axel and Xion

Saïx returned to The World that Never Was to get whooped by Roxas

but then if they return to there timelines, who are the 13 darknesses that we will fight in kh3? if they all return to their timeline then they wont appear in kh3?

But doesn't Xehanort say that this clash is inevitable ? 

They will fight in the "future" (the future of the game) .

And the "timelines" lead to this clash .

Xehanort made sure of that .

Edited February 7, 201411 yr by Nick Sideris

They went back to their originations:Master Xehanort returned to the Keyblade Graveyard to battle TerraXemnas returned to The World that Never Was to admire Kingdom HeartsAnsem returned to Destiny Islands to possess RikuYoung Xehanort returned to Destiny Islands to build a raftXigbar returned to The World that Never Was to continue eavesdropping on Axel and XionSaïx returned to The World that Never Was to get whooped by Roxas

Then how are they going to appear in kh3 if they returned to their origination's?

Then how are they going to appear in kh3 if they returned to their origination's?

They'll just time travel again

but then if they return to there timelines, who are the 13 darknesses that we will fight in kh3? if they all return to their timeline then they wont appear in kh3?

It'll be the same people. They just have to gather them up again. 

 

They went back to their originations:Master Xehanort returned to the Keyblade Graveyard to battle TerraXemnas returned to The World that Never Was to admire Kingdom HeartsAnsem returned to Destiny Islands to possess RikuYoung Xehanort returned to Destiny Islands to build a raftXigbar returned to The World that Never Was to continue eavesdropping on Axel and XionSaïx returned to The World that Never Was to get whooped by Roxas

Master Xehanort is in the current timeline. He is what formed when Xemnas and Ansem were defeated. 

Saix and Xigbar are most likely from the current timeline as well. But I'm not 100% possitive on that. 

Pretty sure it means return to their original timelines and such. 

 This .

 

but then if they return to there timelines, who are the 13 darknesses that we will fight in kh3? if they all return to their timeline then they wont appear in kh3?

 

Well how did YMX know exactly when to pick them up the first time in DDD? He just did and we don't know . I imagine he'll just come by and gather them all up again when he needs to. The whole point in gathering in TWTNW was to welcome the 13th darkness in DDD- they knew it wasn't time yet .Somehow MX has this planned out through 'destiny'. They will prolly use another inbetween world like TWTNW or the keyblade graveyard to gather all forms in the future since they are using TT.

It'll be the same people. They just have to gather them up again. 

 

Master Xehanort is in the current timeline. He is what formed when Xemnas and Ansem were defeated. 

Saix and Xigbar are most likely from the current timeline as well. But I'm not 100% possitive on that. 

 Exactly!

Edited February 7, 201411 yr by Flaming Lea

It'll be the same people. They just have to gather them up again.  Master Xehanort is in the current timeline. He is what formed when Xemnas and Ansem were defeated. Saix and Xigbar are most likely from the current timeline as well. But I'm not 100% possitive on that.

With time travel Master Xehanort and his clones exist in multiple points in time- ergo the writers got lazy and screwed over what was a somewhat acceptable lore; freaking time travel...

With time travel Master Xehanort and his clones exist in multiple points in time- ergo the writers got lazy and screwed over what was a somewhat acceptable lore; freaking time travel...

 

Yeah but the one we saw in TWTNW was the most current MX - as stated in game directly. As for Saix and Xigbar Nomura implied they were picked up before the others awoke in the lab and were revived .

With time travel Master Xehanort and his clones exist in multiple points in time- ergo the writers got lazy and screwed over what was a somewhat acceptable lore; freaking time travel...

You either phrased that weird or I'm reading it wrong. Cause I don't get what you're trying to say. x'D

You either phrased that weird or I'm reading it wrong. Cause I don't get what you're trying to say. x'D

LightChaser means that every member of the "new" Org.XIII has got the ability to time travel  and with that way they can "exist" in many points .

Edited February 7, 201411 yr by Nick Sideris

Yeah but the one we saw in TWTNW was the most current MX - as stated in game directly. As for Saix and Xigbar Nomura implied they were picked up before the others awoke in the lab and were revived .

Eh, time travel, when poorly explained I don't try to understand it- so long as I get Kingdom Hearts III whatevs

LightChaser means that every member of the "new" Org.XIII has got the ability to time travel  and with that way they can "exist" in many points .

 

Only YMX time travels- he just picks up or summons everyone else . 

 

Eh, time travel, when poorly explained I don't try to understand it- so long as I get Kingdom Hearts III whatevs

 

Understandable . If you haven't read all the interviews they do help

Only YMX time travels- he just picks up or summons everyone else . 

 

I was about to edit my post..... You are fast .

You either phrased that weird or I'm reading it wrong. Cause I don't get what you're trying to say. x'D

If time travel is possible, simultaneously there is a version of Master Xehanort giving Eraqus his scars, a version leaving Ven on Destiny Islands, a version viewing Terra and Aqua's Mark of Mastery exam, a version in Radiant Garden tricking Terra into believing Braig has caught him, a version facing Terra at the Keyblade Graveyard, etc etc- I suck at explaining time travel, especially when there's so little to go on- don't ask me 'cuse I'm just making this up as I go, like Nomura's doing

I was about to edit my post..... You are fast .

 

Teehee

Only YMX time travels- he just picks up or summons everyone else .   Understandable . If you haven't read all the interviews they do help

Nomura can't be trusted, ergo interviews can't be trustedNomura logic = Normally illogic

If time travel is possible, simultaneously there is a version of Master Xehanort giving Eraqus his scars, a version leaving Ven on Destiny Islands, a version viewing Terra and Aqua's Mark of Mastery exam, a version in Radiant Garden tricking Terra into believing Braig has caught him, a version facing Terra at the Keyblade Graveyard, etc etc- I suck at explaining time travel, especially when there's so little to go on- don't ask me 'cuse I'm just making this up as I go, like Nomura's doing

 

Which is why I hate TT - technically there could be a bazillion Xehanorts if you think about this and this possibility has never been addressed but if it was a feasible option you would think he wouldn't need to go after the apprentices or Riku or Roxas or Sora. He could just use all Xehanorts. But he does not do that so we don't know exactly. However , we don't know who the other 6 hooded figures are .

If time travel is possible, simultaneously there is a version of Master Xehanort giving Eraqus his scars, a version leaving Ven on Destiny Islands, a version viewing Terra and Aqua's Mark of Mastery exam, a version in Radiant Garden tricking Terra into believing Braig has caught him, a version facing Terra at the Keyblade Graveyard, etc etc- I suck at explaining time travel, especially when there's so little to go on- don't ask me 'cuse I'm just making this up as I go, like Nomura's doing

Yeah it's kinda like that . I am not sure if the words "version" and "simultaneously" fit ,but whatever .

Edited February 7, 201411 yr by Nick Sideris

Nomura can't be trusted, ergo interviews can't be trustedNomura logic = Normally illogic

 

Interviews = canon fact unless Nomura himself decides to retcon . He doesn't retcon EVERYTHING or there would never be any canon storyline at all.

Edited February 7, 201411 yr by Flaming Lea

If time travel is possible, simultaneously there is a version of Master Xehanort giving Eraqus his scars, a version leaving Ven on Destiny Islands, a version viewing Terra and Aqua's Mark of Mastery exam, a version in Radiant Garden tricking Terra into believing Braig has caught him, a version facing Terra at the Keyblade Graveyard, etc etc- I suck at explaining time travel, especially when there's so little to go on- don't ask me 'cuse I'm just making this up as I go, like Nomura's doing

Just don't think about it to hard. Then you shouldn't have a problem.

Intreviews = canon fact unless Nomura himself decides to retcon . He doesn't retcon EVERYTHING or there would never be any canon storyline at all.

Games = canonInterviews can be discussions about or elaborations on canon, but this isn't always the case

Just don't think about it to hard. Then you shouldn't have a problem.

I never think too hard

Which is why I hate TT - technically there could be a bazillion Xehanorts if you think about this and this possibility has never been addressed but if it was a feasible option you would think he wouldn't need to go after the apprentices or Riku or Roxas or Sora. He could just use all Xehanorts. But he does not do that so we don't know exactly. However , we don't know who the other 6 hooded figures are .

The other six are:1. Winnie the Pooh2. Pence3. Kairi's Gandmother4. Terra5. John6. That NPC from Traverse Town who lost his heart in front of Sora in the first game, yet stood by the door to the 3rd District and ran the Accessory Shop thereafter