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How Lightning Returns Could Have Been Amazing [SPOILERS]

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hurr i dont want 2 reed it but imma argu wit u anywey

 

Just kidding, but seriously Jim, nice work! I agree with you with almost every point you made

I agree, as I mentioned in my review I originally missed leveling up, like we got pretty much nothing out of fighting monsters outside of a few side quest items.

As for the story, it was all about Lightning, that's the whole purpose of the game. I loved the other characters too, and I also mentioned in my review how I missed them too and would have loved fighting alongside them more/again. But they wanted to capture Lightning's perspective perfectly, who couldn't really feel anything. And I felt they did that.

I'll also admit I was frustrated having use New Game+ just to defeat the final boss but after finishing the game I was very happy with it.

I think it's also important to note that Square Enix said this in the reviewer's guide.

 

 


Please note that as the game features a more challenging and strategy-oriented battle system, we highly encourage the first play-through to be played on the “Easy Mode”.

If someone did play through on Easy Mode, then New Game+ for Normal Mode I bet they'd be happy with it. Want a bigger challenge? There's Hard Mode. It's not a long game, you can easily just complete the main quests and just sleep for the rest of the days. Hahahaha.

I personally was very happy with the game (and I paid $80), and look forward to platinuming it later in the year.

Is LIGHTNING RETURNS: FINAL FANTASY XIII the best FINAL FANTASY game ever? No way, FINAL FANTASY X is to me. Is it the best of this generation ? Nope. I say FINAL FANTASY XIII is. Is this the worst of this generation? Nope. That goes to the original FINAL FANTASY XIV. But it was a good game and brought closure. Can't be mad about that.
 

 



inb4 Metal Snake criticizing all the stuff and agreeing with Jim even though The Jimmies were shaken during the Wii U Troll and posting a derpy Lightning pic.

oh and inb4 Sora96 posting how great LRFFXIII is even though he notices there are a couple flaws.

Read my post on this topic and my review. :P

 



CAIUS RETURNS: FINAL FANTASY XIII

Would never happen, but I would definitely buy that.

I played it for a couple of hours the day of release and haven't touched it since. I don't know, something just didn't click for me. The graphics just seemed so grainy to me for some reason. Maybe because I had just been playing PS4, but the graphics just seemed off. And now I've just bought InFamous, so I won't be going back to Lightning Returns anytime soon, especially with work and uni taking up a lot of my time. 

As for the ending, didn't you see the secret ending Jim? It showed the new world, maybe not as much as you (and I) wanted to, but it did show it at least with Lightning.

As for the ending, didn't you see the secret ending Jim? It showed the new world, maybe not as much as you (and I) wanted to, but it did show it at least with Lightning.

 

Wasn't a secret ending, it was only an epilogue. But yes, it showed the new world. I would have liked a wedding scene. Haha.

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As for the ending, didn't you see the secret ending Jim? It showed the new world, maybe not as much as you (and I) wanted to, but it did show it at least with Lightning.

I did see it on youtube (it didn't appear for me in the actual game lol), and I see what you're saying. What disappointed me about it was that it only showed Lightning, whereas they could have shown all the characters together and have the scene be just as brief. It would at least give you some indication of how life was for them. But hey, that's just my opinion :P 

I did see it on youtube (it didn't appear for me in the actual game lol), and I see what you're saying. What disappointed me about it was that it only showed Lightning, whereas they could have shown all the characters together and have the scene be just as brief. It would at least give you some indication of how life was for them. But hey, that's just my opinion :P

 

You've got extend the world's time to 14 days.

I honestly sold the game back to Gamestop when I beat it. Trust me, I'm a big Final Fantasy XIII fan, but this game is one of the worst games I've ever played! I paid full price for this!? The fan service was not needed, the characters don't even matter, and we are left with nothing about what happens when they get to the new world! I really hope Square learns a big lesson from this, you can't make video games just to make money, you actually have to make them for the fans. I remember reading an interview when Nomura was designing the outfits for Lightning, and he was furious! I mean this was his character he designed, and she's being exploited like she's in some raunchy Anime. You make excellent points!

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You've got extend the world's time to 14 days.

 

I know how to do it, I was just saying that I didn't end up getting the cutscene in my playthrough.

 

I honestly sold the game back to Gamestop when I beat it. Trust me, I'm a big Final Fantasy XIII fan, but this game is one of the worst games I've ever played! I paid full price for this!? The fan service was not needed, the characters don't even matter, and we are left with nothing about what happens when they get to the new world! I really hope Square learns a big lesson from this, you can't make video games just to make money, you actually have to make them for the fans. I remember reading an interview when Nomura was designing the outfits for Lightning, and he was furious! I mean this was his character he designed, and she's being exploited like she's in some raunchy Anime. You make excellent points!

Thanks! :D

Also do you have a link to this interview? I'd really like to see this. xD

I honestly sold the game back to Gamestop when I beat it. Trust me, I'm a big Final Fantasy XIII fan, but this game is one of the worst games I've ever played! I paid full price for this!? The fan service was not needed, the characters don't even matter, and we are left with nothing about what happens when they get to the new world! I really hope Square learns a big lesson from this, you can't make video games just to make money, you actually have to make them for the fans. I remember reading an interview when Nomura was designing the outfits for Lightning, and he was furious! I mean this was his character he designed, and she's being exploited like she's in some raunchy Anime. You make excellent points!

THIS

 

I was actually a fan of the XIII games too especially XIII-2

 

But this game offends me as a fan of the XIII games and as a fan of Final Fantasy in general

 

Also,can you give me a link to the interview,I really want to see it

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The ending was the biggest problem in my opinion. The worst part about it is that Toriyama had a better ending in mind but he scraped it because "The trilogy began with Lightning, so I felt like it should end with her." 

 

The scrapped ending:Lightning would be on the train where she meets with Sazh. Then they both get off the train and meet the rest of the cast at the station.

 

You get why this would've been great, right? The beginning of XIII started with Light and Sazh on the purge train. This scene would show how the circumstances are much better in the new world, and how there is no purge, nobody getting killed, no guns, or anything like that. It's an allusion to the origin of the trilogy. Also we would have got to see the rest of the cast in the new world and we could see that they are finally together at last. Maybe we could've seen Snow and Serah's wedding. Such a great opportunity missed.Actually if y'all don't mind, I'm gonna pretend that what happened. Head Canon!

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The ending was the biggest problem in my opinion. The worst part about it is that Toriyama had a better ending in mind but he scraped it because "The trilogy began with Lightning, so I felt like it should end with her." 

 

The scrapped ending:

Lightning would be on the train where she meets with Sazh. Then they both get off the train and meet the rest of the cast at the station.

 

You get why this would've been great, right? The beginning of XIII started with Light and Sazh on the purge train. This scene would show how the circumstances are much better in the new world, and how there is no purge, nobody getting killed, no guns, or anything like that. It's an allusion to the origin of the trilogy. Also we would have got to see the rest of the cast in the new world and we could see that they are finally together at last. Maybe we could've seen Snow and Serah's wedding. Such a great opportunity missed.

 

Actually if y'all don't mind, I'm gonna pretend that what happened. Head Canon!

 

Hold on. You seriously mean to tell me that they had that ending, and they SCRAPPED IT?! 

 

Oh, that makes me so mad. You see, this is why Toriyama shouldn't direct. They had thought of an ending like that, which I agree with you that it would have been so awesome! It would have been symbolic of the peace in the new world, with the connections it made to the original XIII, and showed a bit of how each character lived. But no, Stupid Toriyama thinks that Lightning is the only friggin character than anybody cares about, and wastes a great opportunity! Honestly, that makes me really ticked off. COME ON TORIYAMA, WHY CAN'T YOU THINK ABOUT MAKING A GOOD STORY, INSTEAD OF JUST ACTING LIKE LIGHTNING IS THE SINGLE GREATEST THING SINCE SLICED CHOCOBO?! WELL GUESS WHAT TORIYAMA, SLICED CHOCOBO ISN'T GOOD, AND NEITHER IS LIGHTNING. SHE COULD HAVE BEEN GOOD BUT YOU MESSED UP HER CHARACTER BECAUSE YOU DON'T GIVE A CRAP ABOUT ACTUALLY DEVELOPING HER, YOU JUST EXPECT THE FANS TO FETISHIZE HER LIKE YOU DO. 

 

 

GAAAH, THIS MAKES ME MAD. 

 

Alright, I should calm down now. Sorry about that, fellas. 

I did see it on youtube (it didn't appear for me in the actual game lol), and I see what you're saying. What disappointed me about it was that it only showed Lightning, whereas they could have shown all the characters together and have the scene be just as brief. It would at least give you some indication of how life was for them. But hey, that's just my opinion :P

 

Toriyama wanted it to be Lightning only because the game started with Lightning.

I'm happy with the fact they showed a bit of the new world but I too would've like to see A LOT more interactions with the characters.

Maybe they will release those little info-books (or whatever they are or called) like they did for FFXIII and FFXIII-2 detailing what happened before and after their respective games. This could show what the rest of the cast did.

I know it's "PeanutButterGamer" not Jontron but....I think you got what I wanna say ^_^

 

I really liked your ideas and they actually make more sense than what we got

Its been so long since ive watched one of his videos xD

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Toriyama wanted it to be Lightning only because the game started with Lightning.

I'm happy with the fact they showed a bit of the new world but I too would've like to see A LOT more interactions with the characters.

Maybe they will release those little info-books (or whatever they are or called) like they did for FFXIII and FFXIII-2 detailing what happened before and after their respective games. This could show what the rest of the cast did.

I'd like that too. Like, even if they aren't that interesting, it would at least be cool to see the characters getting accustomed to their new life. 

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