I don't care what anyone says

[Caity 3,946]

Far too many impatient people without any idea of how long and grueling games development can be, remaster or not, there's a lot of work that needs to go into it, upscaling, new models, revoicing, new music, additional scenes, wireless battle (if they enable it), etc.  When you can do it in very short time, they you have more place to dictate.  

 

I understand a release date was expected months ago, but damn, so many people getting on like spoilt brats who want the candybar their mom just pushed them past in the stroller.  We already know it'll be some time this year.  They had no obligation to make it early in the year.  

[Sora96 17,256]

Far too many impatient people without any idea of how long and grueling games development can be, remaster or not, there's a lot of work that needs to go into it, upscaling, new models, revoicing, new music, additional scenes, wireless battle (if they enable it), etc.  When you can do it in very short time, they you have more place to dictate.  

 

I understand a release date was expected months ago, but damn, so many people getting on like spoilt brats who want the candybar their mom just pushed them past in the stroller.  We already know it'll be some time this year.  They had no obligation to make it early in the year.  

 

^This

 

Square Enix have been making major releases on PlayStation 3 & PlayStation 4 the past few months anyway.

[Queen Tery 4,591]

I think the problem is, people take an "announcement" as the beginning of development. Each company is different on how they handle their developments and announcements. Just because Wind Waker HD was out in 6 months, doesn't mean they worked on it for 6 months. It means they announced it and it happened to be out in 6 months. Besides, I'd prefer to keep an open mind and remember that I don't know how to develop a game. Most of the people here don't, whether they want to admit that or not. So just because you "see" something, doesn't mean it is what you think it is. 

[Exiblade7 1,917]

I think the problem is, people take an "announcement" as the beginning of development. Each company is different on how they handle their developments and announcements. Just because Wind Waker HD was out in 6 months, doesn't mean they worked on it for 6 months. It means they announced it and it happened to be out in 6 months. Besides, I'd prefer to keep an open mind and remember that I don't know how to develop a game. Most of the people here don't, whether they want to admit that or not. So just because you "see" something, doesn't mean it is what you think it is. 

This were I found the information http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-10-08-zelda-the-wind-waker-hd-was-made-in-six-months Eiji Aonuma even said it was made in 6 months.

Edited April 23, 2014 by Zeldablade7

[Queen Tery 4,591]

This were I found the information http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-10-08-zelda-the-wind-waker-hd-was-made-in-six-months Eiji Aonuma even said it was made in 6 months.

 

Then I will admit that I stand corrected on that bit of information. I still prefer to give companies the benefit of the doubt. I also consider the fact that Nintendo is a far bigger company than SE. They have been around a lot longer and even develop their own major consoles. SE more than likely doesn't have the resources that Nintendo has. Plus Wind Waker, while a long game, is one game. SE is working on a collection of 2 games as well as the cutscenes from a DS game.

[LimitForm 24]

Far too many impatient people without any idea of how long and grueling games development can be, remaster or not, there's a lot of work that needs to go into it, upscaling, new models, revoicing, new music, additional scenes, wireless battle (if they enable it), etc.  When you can do it in very short time, they you have more place to dictate.  

 

I understand a release date was expected months ago, but damn, so many people getting on like spoilt brats who want the candybar their mom just pushed them past in the stroller.  We already know it'll be some time this year.  They had no obligation to make it early in the year.  

Exactly this^^^^. Can you marry me? lol

[Exiblade7 1,917]

I think the reason why 2.5 didn't get a release date yet is because remember what they said when they finished 1.5? When they finished making 1.5 SE said that it was harder then they excepted it to be. The same thing might be happening with 2.5.

[LimitForm 24]

I think the reason why 2.5 didn't get a release date yet is because remember what they said when they finished 1.5? When they finished making 1.5 SE said that it was harder then they excepted it to be. The same thing might be happening with 2.5.

The only reason they said it was harder than they expected was because they didn't have any of the old files or data( i believe) that were in the original game, since it came out so long ago. They did in fact say that they were going to make 2.5 better than 1.5 so the fact they are pulling out all of the stops on this one could be the reason why they are taking longer than usual.

[G-SANtos 105]

Maybe the reason it's taking so long is because they are preparing some extra content in KH2.5 that they didn't announce yet because they weren't sure they would make in time, and if they didn't make it in time they could cancel it without disappointing fans that expected said extra content.

[DAMN 80]

I hate to sound rude here, but do you know how much work they have to put in to Birth By Sleep? They are changing a PSP game to a PS3 game, so it may not be exactly new, but they have to do a lot of programming just on that game alone. But they have to make Re:Coded with new voice lines, and new animation, just to make it into a movie. Plus KH2 and BBS Final Mixs weren't already made into English before, so they have to change the language on everything they can. It takes a lot of work to make a video game, and to make three at the same time takes a lot more work. Now I am not saying that them not keeping us updated is right. But I am saying, give them time and before you know it, the game will be out.

It took Nintendo 6 months to remake a gamecube game like Wind Waker for the Wii U

And that was a real HD Remake they didn't just polish up the graphics

It would of taken them 2 months at most to just do what Square is doing

 

These excuses are getting lame

You're not getting paid to defend this company..,you don't have to defend a big company

Because Square Enix aren't simply upscaling it.

 

Less amount? Oh no, there's more. Trust me and Everglow.

Umm yes they are...you have no idea what you're talking about

 

Right...just like that thread you made that is front page news for whatever reasons and we still haven't gotten any news regarding 2.5HD

Edited April 26, 2014 by DAMN

[WakingDawn96 1,166]

It took Nintendo 6 months to remake a gamecube game like Wind Waker for the Wii UAnd that was a real HD Remake they didn't just polish up the graphicsIt would of taken them 2 months at most to just do what Square is doing These excuses are getting lameYou're not getting paid to defend this company..,you don't have to defend a big company

I am not defending them because of money, but because I know what it is like to work hard at something that takes a long time. I get why Square can take a while. I am just defending what I believe and know in, no more no less

[DAMN 80]

I am not defending them because of money, but because I know what it is like to work hard at something that takes a long time. I get why Square can take a while. I am just defending what I believe and know in, no more no less

But a port doesn't take a long time man...wake up

They have many people working on this...there's no reason it should take this long

 

None of the other HD Collections in recent years took anywhere near as long as Square takes with their collections

And before you mention the Re:Coded Movie(which is pointless as all hell anyways) they're not really making it CGI or anything that would take the movie a long time to render...they' just doing the same stuff as the 358/2 days movis...making some low budget in-game graphics which don't take that long

If they would have actually remade 358/2 days and Re:Coded fully I'd understand(and considering most of the stuff 358/2 days uses are KH2 Assets it could have been easy to remake it)

Edited April 26, 2014 by DAMN

[MythrilMagician 6,963]

Guys stop complaining about how long its taking for 2.5 to come out, it's not the only thing being worked on, and as Xeveemon said, they are porting a PSP game to PS3, and porting to other platforms is not an easy process, especially with Re:Coded, which is getting the same treatment as 358/2 Days, but for Re:Coded it will take longer because most of the scenes are set out the same way as the scenes in TWEWY, plus you've got voicing. You guys need to be patient, there is a lot of work going on behind the scenes and you really cannot tell exactly what is occurring there even when they tell you everything. Plus there were a few flaws with the release of 1.5. I saw that the back of Pride Rock is not there when you summon Simba. Give them time so that they won't make a stupid mistake like that again. Just be glad that they are even doing this.

[WakingDawn96 1,166]

But a port doesn't take a long time man...wake upThey have many people working on this...there's no reason it should take this long None of the other HD Collections in recent years took anywhere near as long as Square takes with their collectionsAnd before you mention the Re:Coded Movie(which is pointless as all hell anyways) they're not really making it CGI or anything that would take the movie a long time to render...they' just doing the same stuff as the 358/2 days movis...making some low budget in-game graphics which don't take that longIf they would have actually remade 358/2 days and Re:Coded fully I'd understand(and considering most of the stuff 358/2 days uses are KH2 Assets it could have been easy to remake it)

You have your opinion, and I have mine. If we can see the same way here, there is not that much of a problem. I am allowed to have my own opinion and you are allowed to have your own. And I have taken months to make a new AMV on YouTube, and I only take a song and put it with shows, movies, or games like Kingdom Hearts and Pokemon, just to name a few. So it can take time to do the slimpiest of things, epsically if you have a lot of other things to do at the same time.

[Vox 94]

I had my parents buy KH2FM+, Swap Magic, waiting an unusual amount of weeks...and broke my PS2 trying to get it to work when I finally got it...I was 10. 

 

Regardless, I myself can't wait for 2.5, but at the same time, I can wait. It's not as simple as remastering a television show (which may be just as long as time consuming process,) it's a video game compilation. One of which was on the PS2, on the PSP and the other being a HD video collection being made from the ground up. And I personally believe a reason it's taking so long is for them to properly develop a grander scale of Mirage Arena online for BBS.

 

It'll be out in due time, honestly unlike 1.5 I forsee a shorter gap, if one at all between Japan and the US. Even if there is, we can wait. Look at it like this, if theoretically KH3 does miraculously come out next year like I and many other predicted since it's the 13th anniversary, by the time you platinum 2.5 KH3 could be right around the corner. 

[qwertywarrior16 47]

I guess you guys don't realize what we will be getting from this. I've never played either KH2FM or BBSFM and from what I've seen it looks pretty amazing. Plus we're gonna be getting them in glorious HD. But it's easier said then done. I mean look at Re:CoM on 1.5, it looked horrible in the cutscenes. And I don't want to see that happen to either 2 or BBS. So yes they can take their time. But you shouldn't wave this game with all it's nostalgia in our face, and promise news for it every other month, and then not give us a release date. You're basically teasing us.

[Drones 58]

Well, Nomura said that 2.5 would be easier to make than 1.5. That would be faster.

And guess what?

 

 

It's taking even more firetrucking time.

He was trolling.

 

I'm not surprised that people don't understand how hard game development is. I'm not defending Square in any way, since I want 2.5 as much as everyone else, but developing a video game, whether they have the resources already or not, is a hard thing to do. Plus, Nomura has two bigger games to develop along with this one, so focusing on an HD collection that he can easily hold off for a little bit longer isn't a big deal whatsoever.Besides, if your main concern is constantly thinking about when KH2.5 is released, it's time to find something else to do. There are tons of other games to play to keep you held over.

They've had over a year to finish a direct port.

 

I hate to sound rude here, but do you know how much work they have to put in to Birth By Sleep? They are changing a PSP game to a PS3 game, so it may not be exactly new, but they have to do a lot of programming just on that game alone. 

It's been done before, it's far from impossible. It's not like creating a neutron bomb. Sqaure Enix is just lazy.

 

But they have to make Re:Coded with new voice lines, and new animation, just to make it into a movie. 

Yeah they have to make some cheap, low-budget pre-rendered scenes that are barely even animated. As DAMN said, they're not being remade in CGI, it's not something that should take a while. They're basically just taking a couple of models and making them move their hands, surely that's difficult. And has anyone ever considered what these cutscenes will consist of? Will they just be like those annoying Disney Castle scenes that everyone skipped? Or they're really going to have cutscenes of Sora in the data worlds? That would only be the uhm... third time we've seen it considering RE:coded's worlds. I don't consider this a movie just Kingdom Hearts 1 version 3.

 

Plus KH2 and BBS Final Mixs weren't already made into English before, so they have to change the language on everything they can. 

 

I can do this. If this is a factor in 2.5's delayed release than they should hire me.

 

It takes a lot of work to make a video game, and to make three at the same time takes a lot more work. 

 

They're making three video games?

Edited April 27, 2014 by Drones

[peronmls 45]

um it's their game and they can take as long as they want? Rush things then you will get a very bad port and things not being added due to time. That's why data orgs were not in KH2 becuase of time.

[Drones 58]

um it's their game and they can take as long as they want? Rush things then you will get a very bad port and things not being added due to time. That's why data orgs were not in KH2 becuase of time.

Are you firetrucking serious? No shit it's their game. But I just realized, this is exactly their attitude. You must be affiliated with Square. They're not rushing anything as it has been over a year and it does not take this long. Take into consideration that they also have data to base off of for this project, unlike for 1.5. Data Organization XIII battles were not added in the original KH2 I assume you're talking about because of space issues or some sort of limitation, I'm certain.

[WakingDawn96 1,166]

People, you must know that I am not going to answer you back no matter what you put since I said what I believe in and I am done. I am allowed to have my own opinion of Square Enix, just like you are allowed to have yours. If you don't agree with me, then that perfectly fine, but shut up talking to me like I have to agree with you or else. I am free to do and say what I want, if that goes against you, then I really don't care.

[Drones 58]

People, you must know that I am not going to answer you back no matter what you put since I said what I believe in and I am done. I am allowed to have my own opinion of Square Enix, just like you are allowed to have yours. If you don't agree with me, then that perfectly fine, but shut up talking to me like I have to agree with you or else. I am free to do and say what I want, if that goes against you, then I really don't care.

No deal.

[SoraSimpleAndClean 9]

People, you must know that I am not going to answer you back no matter what you put since I said what I believe in and I am done. I am allowed to have my own opinion of Square Enix, just like you are allowed to have yours. If you don't agree with me, then that perfectly fine, but shut up talking to me like I have to agree with you or else. I am free to do and say what I want, if that goes against you, then I really don't care.

I agree ^w^

[DAMN 80]

Are people still defending Square in here?This fanbase can be delusional sometimes

[LimitForm 24]

Are people still defending Square in here?This fanbase can be delusional sometimes

Defend square? You mean explain to people who are whining and crying why they are taking a while to release information? Those people know nothing about how pain staking and time consuming programming can be when it comes to video games. Unless you or another individual can make a game as good as Square Enix in record time, i would to see it, or if you or another individual can make a game period, please by all means, inbox me the release date of it and make sure its out before 2.5 is.

[Drones 58]

Defend square? You mean explain to people who are whining and crying why they are taking a while to release information? Those people know nothing about how pain staking and time consuming programming can be when it comes to video games. Unless you or another individual can make a game as good as Square Enix in record time, i would to see it, or if you or another individual can make a game period, please by all means, inbox me the release date of it and make sure its out before 2.5 is.

And neither do people like you. LOL.I asked mt friend who is a programmer how long it would take for them to make the HD remaster and he said it wouldn't take long at all unless they're lazy. He did however say makng the coded scenes would take some time but I don't think he understood my question or what the game is like, so I will ask him about that again in due time.I'm sure you've never added or altered code in your life or even opened up a coder for that matter and you're just basing your opinion that it is "pain staking and consuming" (which it really isn't off of ypur biased fanboy personality and what other people who know nothing say.