...could refer to Ventus. 

 

Hear me out! Okay, so this is based on the BbS Vol. 2 trailer, you know, for the game that got cancelled, or delayed until kh3 comes out? So we see a lot of short scenes and it's all confusing as kingdom hearts when at the end, we see a scene of Xehanort followed by Sora and Ventus disappearing in a flash of strange light. 

 

Now, in KH3D we see Sora was taken to become a Seeker of Darkness. What if that scene in the bbs trailer was foreshadowing for Sora's intended role in KH3D??? If that's true, then the fact Ven vanishes right after Sora takes on a whole new level of horror. 

 

I know there are so many holes in this theory-like how Xehanort could even get to Ven when he's in Castle Oblivion, but maybe he gets Ven after he's awake, or somehow he manages to find him in the Castle (which totally disregards the whole only Aqua can find him, yeah), and it would fit with the whole twists and surprises thing Nomura likes to do with his stories.

 

A possible way ties together with another theory of mine, that Xehanort implanted a piece of his heart into Vanitas back when he was still split from Ven, and when Vanitas was defeated wouldn't he go back to the place where he originated from, i.e. Ven? And if that happened, then that piece of Xehanort's Heart that was in Vanitas would go into Ven's Heart along WITH VANITAS, but dormant so it couldn't really do anything while Ven's heart was inside Sora, so when Sora gives Ven his heart back, that piece of Xehanort's heart is still there, and it takes over Ven so he becomes a Seeker. 

 

This also ties into what Young Master Xehanort said about Roxas-he said he was a 'worthy candidate'. Now the most obvious reason he said that was because Roxas did not have any memories upon birth, so he was at a disadvantage in comparison to the other Organization members to become a Xehanort clone, but what if the reason he said that was because Roxas, having Ven's heart inside him, ALREADY HAD A PIECE OF XEHANORT WITHIN HIM. Since Ven's heart is dormant, that piece couldn't really do much, but being inside a host with no memories AND no Heart, all they'd have to do is awaken that piece of Xehanort within and bam, instant Roxas-Xehanort. But then Roxas grew a heart of his own and merged with Sora, so he was no longer a candidate because he ceased to exist. 

 

What do you guys think? I think it could work, maybe, it'd certainly be a plot twist, and it would leave us with a whole new mystery-WHERE THE HECK TERRA IS, and also HOW ARE WE GOING TO SAVE VEN, which is really two mysteries but whatever. 

But what happens to Terra then? Its pretty clear in the cutscene that Terra is the one who became a Xehanort.

He was referring to Terra, it's already been confirmed of that, since one of the Xehanorts is Terra, aka the Xehanort that became Ansem and Xemnas. The only way to get Ventus, which you mentioned yourself, is for Aqua to find him. In BBS Eraqus states that the LoD would become a world where all would get lost in Oblivion, except whoever holds his Key, though there was that scene in the 2013 E3 trailer that showed Sora picking up his Keyblade, so it could be Sora who finds Ven in CO. But there is no way Xehanort could've gotten Ven. If he had the ability to, then there wouldn't have been any point to send half the original Organization there to find him. Eraqus's Keyblade is required to find the Room of Sleep, where Ven is.

Xehanort needs vessels. Xehanort narrated how he still practically has Terra as his vessel aka "the feckless youth". Xehanort doesn't know how to get to Ven's vessel. Xehanort's comment meant the "another" already belonged to him. If Xehanort can't get to Ven's vessel(which was shown to still be in Chamber of Waking), then he clearly didn't mean him.

 

In conclusion: Xehanort meant Terra. 

You gotta admit though: it would be extremely surreal if Ventus opens his eyes at the end of the new trailer, and they're golden.

As cool as it would be to see sora vs ventus( actual ventus not someone who looks at him), i don't think that he could be a seeker of darkness mostly because his heart is made up of pure light. Thats the whole reason why xehanort tried to use him for the x blade the first time around. But vanitas would make an awesome seeker of darkness though

As cool as it would be to see sora vs ventus( actual ventus not someone who looks at him), i don't think that he could be a seeker of darkness mostly because his heart is made up of pure light. Thats the whole reason why xehanort tried to use him for the x blade the first time around. But vanitas would make an awesome seeker of darkness though

Ventus didn't start out with a heart of pure light, he was made that way when Xehanort extracted the darkness from him to create Vanitas.

All thirteen were gathered in TWTNW with Sora being the 13th. They were gathered to welcome Sora as the final member. Meaning- it can't be Ven bc Xehanort needs  his body for a vessel and the scene at the end of DDD shows Ven's body still in CO smiling. Not to mention they need Aqua to find him and all previous searches failed bc of the dynamics of CO.

 

 

All of the org members were potential candidates bc they cast aside their hearts and therefore their identity. Then Xemnas gave them all new X names to further the cause. Roxas was no longer a worthy candidate bc he became "too self aware" as stated in game.

 

The scene in the trailer with Master Keeper was non-canon and purely symbolic as stated by Nomura btw.

 

Also Vanitas was supposed to be destroyed when he was defeated although I guess if Ven hid in Sora Vanitas could have sought refuge too somewhere.

Edited August 5, 201510 yr by Flaming Lea

All thirteen were gathered in TWTNW with Sora being the 13th. They were gathered to welcome Sora as the final member. Meaning- it can't be Ven bc Xehanort needs  his body for a vessel and the scene at the end of DDD shows Ven's body still in CO smiling. Not to mention they need Aqua to find him and all previous searches failed bc of the dynamics of CO.

 

 

All of the org members were potential candidates bc they cast aside their hearts and therefore their identity. Then Xemnas gave them all new X names to further the cause. Roxas was no longer a worthy candidate bc he became "too self aware" as stated in game.

 

The scene in the trailer with Master Keeper was non-canon and purely symbolic as stated by Nomura btw.

 

Also Vanitas was supposed to be destroyed when he was defeated although I guess if Ven hid in Sora Vanitas could have sought refuge too somewhere.

Riku was a worthy candidate too till he began to use darkness to fight for the light. Xion could somewhat count as a worthy candidate before she was defeated, and return to Sora. Thus leading to Roxas.

Riku was a worthy candidate too till he began to use darkness to fight for the light. Xion could somewhat count as a worthy candidate before she was defeated, and return to Sora. Thus leading to Roxas.

Roxas formed his own sense of self and became self aware which is why they couldn't use him. (Stated in game) Xion could fall under this same category really ( although both are also currently in Sora anyways)...Riku wasn't an org member at all so not sure why you included him considering i said org members. Regardless he was still a candidate in DDD until they gave up and moved on to Sora.

Edited August 6, 201510 yr by Flaming Lea

MX: *Can't possess anyone too self-aware.* *Has no trouble possessing someone not only self-aware enough to create an armored juggernaut that actually defeats MX, but also containing the awareness of the most anti-Darkness man in the universe.*

 

Yoda: "Consistency, Nomura lacks."

MX: *Can't possess anyone too self-aware.* *Has no trouble possessing someone not only self-aware enough to create an armored juggernaut that actually defeats MX, but also containing the awareness of the most anti-Darkness man in the universe.* Yoda: "Consistency, Nomura lacks."

Except Terra's growing darkness is what made it easier for MX to take control of his body. The whole "self awareness" thing only applied to Nobodies who were supposed to be empty shells.Plus Terra being a gullible idiot only made it easier tbh

This goes over so many peoples heads it actually annoys me. TERRA. It is so obvious that it's Terra. Ventus is just a body at the moment, a body that no one knows where to find. I made a thread about this a while ago. Mickey states this

 

'As for keyblade wielders there's me Sora Riku and my 3 missing friends aka Aqua Ventus and Terra.'

Xehanort replies with

'Very perceptive, but Sora and another on your list belong to me now'.

It's obviously not Sora Mickey or Riku, the room where Ventus is in can only be found by Aqua. Aqua would have been norted a while ago if Xehanort wanted her. Not to be sexist or anything, but from past games Xehanort/Ansem SOD have never attempted to use female vessels. Xion was not a vessel.

 

If Xehanort has returned, then Terra has returned also. It only makes sense. My theory is this,

 Now due to Terra's body being constantly used for Xemnas and Terranort and Ansem SOD, he is most likely very damaged and his heart is too. He has gone through a lot of different swaps and switcharoos, so his mental state is likely to be very messed up. Xehanort probably norted him.

 

I can't see why people don't think it's Terra. Xehanort should have just said Terra.

 

 

This goes over so many peoples heads it actually annoys me. TERRA. It is so obvious that it's Terra. Ventus is just a body at the moment, a body that no one knows where to find. I made a thread about this a while ago. Mickey states this

 

'As for keyblade wielders there's me Sora Riku and my 3 missing friends aka Aqua Ventus and Terra.'

Xehanort replies with

'Very perceptive, but Sora and another on your list belong to me now'.

It's obviously not Sora Mickey or Riku, the room where Ventus is in can only be found by Aqua. Aqua would have been norted a while ago if Xehanort wanted her. Not to be sexist or anything, but from past games Xehanort/Ansem SOD have never attempted to use female vessels. Xion was not a vessel.

 

If Xehanort has returned, then Terra has returned also. It only makes sense. My theory is this,

 Now due to Terra's body being constantly used for Xemnas and Terranort and Ansem SOD, he is most likely very damaged and his heart is too. He has gone through a lot of different swaps and switcharoos, so his mental state is likely to be very messed up. Xehanort probably norted him.

 

I can't see why people don't think it's Terra. Xehanort should have just said Terra.

 

When I saw that scene with Xehanort, my first assumption was Terra. Why wouldn't it be, right? It makes the most sense, and it'd be the easiest route to go because Terra was already body jacked by the guy, and if Xehanort and Terra were revived in their original bodies at the same place, it wouldn't be hard to Nort Terra. I totally believed Terra was a seeker of darkness. 

 

(Honestly, I was a little relieved. Not because he was a Seeker, but because now I knew WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM)

 

The only reason I am not completely 100 sure of it is because Nomura himself has said that he enjoys creating twists in the story. Terra not being a Seeker would be something NO ONE expected, which is why I think it's a possibility. A small possibility, but a possibility. And Ven being one is something NO ONE expects-that coupled with that scene of him disappearing in that bbs vol 2 trailer is the reason I think there's a possibility he's a seeker. 

 

Course after that scene in Re Coded, I'm growing more and more convinced Terra IS a Seeker, but if it turns out he wasn't, I wouldn't...well, I'd be surprised, because of the scene in Re Coded. 

When I saw that scene with Xehanort, my first assumption was Terra. Why wouldn't it be, right? It makes the most sense, and it'd be the easiest route to go because Terra was already body jacked by the guy, and if Xehanort and Terra were revived in their original bodies at the same place, it wouldn't be hard to Nort Terra. I totally believed Terra was a seeker of darkness. 

 

(Honestly, I was a little relieved. Not because he was a Seeker, but because now I knew WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM)

 

The only reason I am not completely 100 sure of it is because Nomura himself has said that he enjoys creating twists in the story. Terra not being a Seeker would be something NO ONE expected, which is why I think it's a possibility. A small possibility, but a possibility. And Ven being one is something NO ONE expects-that coupled with that scene of him disappearing in that bbs vol 2 trailer is the reason I think there's a possibility he's a seeker. 

 

Course after that scene in Re Coded, I'm growing more and more convinced Terra IS a Seeker, but if it turns out he wasn't, I wouldn't...well, I'd be surprised, because of the scene in Re Coded. 

 

Trailers and such are not always accurate, show open concepts, and sometimes are just symbolic. Esp for a game that has been cancelled ( if cancelled is even the word for that situation) for now and may not ever be made.

Edited August 6, 201510 yr by Flaming Lea

^Basically what Flaming Lea said. Concept trailers are called concept trailers for a reason. Just a starting base for ideas before changing as development ensues. So really I wouldn't put ALL my eggs on that basket about that BBS Vol. 2 trailer since it's basically been cannedshelved. Plus as MX already said.

 

"Sora and another on your list belong to me now." 

 

And if you want to go with the Japanese dialogue/subtitles 

 

"However both Sora and the last one are on our side"

 

Slightly different dialogue but pretty much same meaning. Either way, Ven's body is off limits until Aqua gets to him and it's been off limits for a decade so while Xehanort through AX, Ansem SOD and Xemnas was off shooting his seed inside of people, there's no way he could have done so to Ven. I mean we never did find out why Xemnas wanted to find Ven's body so badly and that he never did find Ven.......hmmm..........

Ventus was a being of pure light ever since his split from Vanitas. Ventus couldn't handle his darkness at the time that his light and darkness was balanced without Sora, so, Master Xehanort extracted Ven's darkness to create Vanitas (so that he may be a pawn for Xehanorts schemes). It's not Ventus - it's Terra.

Edited August 9, 201510 yr by Guest