Xehanorts Nobody

[WeFoundLove777 5]

I have a question!

 

When someone's hearrs leaves a body, a heartless and nobody are created, right?

Why doesn't it happen at the end of BBS, when Xehanort frees his heart?

[Yuya Sakaki 5,212]

*waits for Flaming Lea to come in with an answer*

 

Edit: Found the answer.

 

-- In "KHI" when Sora stabs the "Keyblade of people's hearts" into himself to release his heart and Kairi's, Sora's Heartless and Nobody were born. When Master Xehanort and Terra:Xehanort stab themselves with the Keyblade, were his and Terra's Nobodies not created?

Nomura: That is not yet clear. However I will say that the fixed sentiment that remained just after Master Xehanort stabbed himself with the Keyblade was not a Heartless.

 

Peace! 

Edited November 29, 2015 by Yuya Sakaki

[Felixx 6,646]

A nobody is created when a heart is swallowed by darkness and therefore becomes a heartless.

When Xehanort freed his heart it wasn't swallowed by darkness but went into Terra's body.

That's why no heartless and nobody were created then

Edited November 29, 2015 by Felixx

[WeFoundLove777 5]

*waits for Flaming Lea to come in with an answer*

 

Edit: Found the answer.

 

-- In "KHI" when Sora stabs the "Keyblade of people's hearts" into himself to release his heart and Kairi's, Sora's Heartless and Nobody were born. When Master Xehanort and Terra:Xehanort stab themselves with the Keyblade, were his and Terra's Nobodies not created?[/size]Nomura: That is not yet clear. However I will say that the fixed sentiment that remained just after Master Xehanort stabbed himself with the Keyblade was not a Heartless.[/size]

 

Peace!

 

Okok! Thanks!

[Eternalsleep 175]

A nobody is created when a heart is swallowed by darkness and therefore becomes a heartless.When Xehanort freed his heart it wasn't swallowed by darkness but went into Terra's body.That's why no heartless and nobody were created then

That kinda makes sense but then why did roxas & namine get created? Sora had released his heart voluntarily also, he didn't succumb to darkness.

[Felixx 6,646]

That kinda makes sense but then why did roxas & namine get created? Sora had released his heart voluntarily also, he didn't succumb to darkness.

That's different: Sora lost his heart, it automatically got swallowed by darkness. When Xehanort extracted his heart he didn't let it succumb to darkness, which he was capable of because he was a keyblade master I guess, and instead he put it into Terra's body.

So it doesn't matter if you lose your heart willingly or not, but what happens with the heart after that.

At least that's what I think

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

There's a difference between transferring your heart into another like Masters learn to do and losing your heart to darkness or stabbing it out and releasing it.( like he did to the apprentices as shown in the DDD flashback)  He transferred his heart to Terra so he did not lose his heart to darkness. It immediately went to another body. MX's body prolly went to where all 'slain '/dead nobodies go awaiting to be reunited with their hearts one day. We aren't entirely sure what happens with MX's body but when Kairi hid her heart in Sora in KH1 she did not form a nobody( Namine not being formed until Sora released Kairi's heart from his body using his darkness and being a total anomaly) and neither did Ventus when his heart also sought refuge to heal in Sora twice. There were no heartless created in those examples.

 

 

Xehanort Report 9

We Keyblade Masters have a special gift. We can extract a heart, be it our own or that of another. By continuing this cycle, it is possible to remain in the world of the living forever.

 

 

also this:

*waits for Flaming Lea to come in with an answer*

 

Edit: Found the answer.

 

-- In "KHI" when Sora stabs the "Keyblade of people's hearts" into himself to release his heart and Kairi's, Sora's Heartless and Nobody were born. When Master Xehanort and Terra:Xehanort stab themselves with the Keyblade, were his and Terra's Nobodies not created?

Nomura: That is not yet clear. However I will say that the fixed sentiment that remained just after Master Xehanort stabbed himself with the Keyblade was not a Heartless.

 

Peace! 

 

 

[Eternalsleep 175]

That's different: Sora lost his heart, it automatically got swallowed by darkness. When Xehanort extracted his heart he didn't let it succumb to darkness, which he was capable of because he was a keyblade master I guess, and instead he put it into Terra's body.So it doesn't matter if you lose your heart willingly or not, but what happens with the heart after that.At least that's what I think

Oh i get it. Since xehanorts heart went somewhere, a heartless/nobody wasn't created. Thanks for clarifying.

[Isamu Kuno 2,512]

But if no Nobody was created, why did his body disappear? Kairi's and Ven's bodies didn't disappear when they gave their hearts to Sora. You could say it was because they had no darkness, but I don't see how that Matters when we're talking about the body and not the heart. If Kairi and Ven's bodies remained after transferring their hearts to Sora, then Xehanort's should have too.

 

The normal process is.

1. Heart is swallowed by darkness

2. Body vanishes

3. If the heart was strong, the body is reconstituted as a Nobody.

 

If a body disappears and the heart was strong, shouldn't the body become a Nobody, ragardness of whether the heart was transferred or swallowed?

Edited November 29, 2015 by Isamu_Kuno

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

But if no Nobody was created, why did his body disappear? Kairi's and Ven's bodies didn't disappear when they gave their hearts to Sora. You could say it was because they had no darkness, but I don't see how that Matters when we're talking about the body and not the heart. If Kairi and Ven's bodies remained after transferring their hearts to Sora, then Xehanort's should have too.The normal process is.1. Heart is swallowed by darkness2. Body vanishes3. If the heart was strong, the body is reconstituted as a Nobody.If a body disappears and the heart was strong, shouldn't the body become a Nobody, ragardness of whether the heart was transferred or swallowed?

 

We do not know if a nobody was created or not. (And it's also a strong will that creates a nobody) That's the thing. It's still a mystery like Nomura stated in his interview posted above.( his body prolly went to the same place as slain nobodies/bodies go though when awaiting reuniting with their hearts)  But there's also a difference in permanently giving up your body to take over anothers body as your own in a transference skill taught to only masters like stated in the above posted report and temporarily seeking refuge bc the heart is in trouble.

[Hero of Light XIV 2,381]

Short version: No Heartless formed = No Nobody formed.

 

Long version: Literally everything that everyone has been saying so far, particularly Flaming Lea.

[Isamu Kuno 2,512]

We do not know if a nobody was created or not. (And it's also a strong will that creates a nobody) That's the thing. It's still a mystery like Nomura stated in his interview posted above.( his body prolly went to the same place as slain nobodies/bodies go though when awaiting reuniting with their hearts)  But there's also a difference in permanently giving up your body to take over anothers body as your own in a transference skill taught to only masters like stated in the above posted report and temporarily seeking refuge bc the heart is in trouble.

String heart and will.

 

That inteveiw also said he left something behind and that that something isn't a Heartless. That means he either has a Nobody or a Lingering Sentiment out there somewhere. And since Lingering Sentiments are usually bonus bosses, I'm banking on a Nobody.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

String heart and will.

 

That inteveiw also said he left something behind and that that something isn't a Heartless. That means he either has a Nobody or a Lingering Sentiment out there somewhere. And since Lingering Sentiments are usually bonus bosses, I'm banking on a Nobody.

 

Did you not read what I said? I said it's ALSO a strong will not that it's only a strong will. Stronger wills make humanoid nobodies. Secondly I pointed out we just do not know if he formed a nobody or not. The interview says it was not made clear if he did or not. The second part was not inferring that-- it was reinforcing that there were no heartless formed from that event though.The fixed sentiment (LS) was Terra's Lingering Will which he was referring to anyways since he refers to that as both LS and LW in interviews.( watch the scene btw ) We have no idea what happens in a transference skill that only masters learned compared to other hearts seeking temporary refuge. The report does not go into detail what is involved in that like the details that are explained in the makings of the normal nobody which is laid out for us.

 

 

-- In "KHI" when Sora stabs the "Keyblade of people's hearts" into himself to release his heart and Kairi's, Sora's Heartless and Nobody were born. When Master Xehanort and Terra:Xehanort stab themselves with the Keyblade, were his and Terra's Nobodies not created?

 

Nomura: That is not yet clear. However I will say that the fixed sentiment that remained just after Master Xehanort stabbed himself with the Keyblade was not a Heartless.

[KingdomHearts3 2,591]

But if no Nobody was created, why did his body disappear? Kairi's and Ven's bodies didn't disappear when they gave their hearts to Sora. You could say it was because they had no darkness, but I don't see how that Matters when we're talking about the body and not the heart. If Kairi and Ven's bodies remained after transferring their hearts to Sora, then Xehanort's should have too.The normal process is.1. Heart is swallowed by darkness2. Body vanishes3. If the heart was strong, the body is reconstituted as a Nobody.If a body disappears and the heart was strong, shouldn't the body become a Nobody, ragardness of whether the heart was transferred or swallowed?

Ventus went through something different. He has his heart damaged, then his heart is forged with his dark counterpart and taken over by that counterpart, then he defeats his counterpart and the missing piece that belonged to Ven is freed and returned to him thereby kicking out Vanitas's heart. Also, the replacement X-blade that was forged when the two pure hearts of light and dark clashed was made of both Ven's and Vanitas's hearts. Since Ven's heart was saved by Sora when his heart was first damaged, he had Sora as a refuge when the X-blade was destroyed by him. Besides, a heart needs a steady vessel to reside in and Ventus went through much instability interiorly so his heart could not stay within such an unstable vessel.

[EricBwn 86]

I had a theory a year or so back that Xehanort's heartless or nobody could be one of the unknown members of the new Org. XIII.