Hix 82 Posted April 26, 2016 Many people have discussed their thoughts on who the seven of light are that will clash with 13 of dark to forge the X blade, but does it really matter who the 7 are? I mean, from my perspective, as long as there is 7 or more of light Keyblade wielders, the X blade will be able to be forged. So, theoretically, in order to prevent the X blade from being forged and another Keyblade war, all the heroes have to do is make sure that no more than 6 good Keyblade wielders are at the same location. By staying separated, they prevent 13 of darkness from ambushing them and causing a fight, forging the X blade. Your thoughts? 1 The Transcendent Key reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rikunobodyxiii 700 Posted April 26, 2016 I agree, though the staying separate is gonna be hard with the 13 Darknesses wrecking havoc across the worlds. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kingdomhe 1,362 Posted April 26, 2016 Many people have discussed their thoughts on who the seven of light are that will clash with 13 of dark to forge the X blade, but does it really matter who the 7 are? I mean, from my perspective, as long as there is 7 or more of light Keyblade wielders, the X blade will be able to be forged. So, theoretically, in order to prevent the X blade from being forged and another Keyblade war, all the heroes have to do is make sure that no more than 6 good Keyblade wielders are at the same location. By staying separated, they prevent 13 of darkness from ambushing them and causing a fight, forging the X blade. Your thoughts? I agree, though the staying separate is gonna be hard with the 13 Darknesses wrecking havoc across the worlds. Mickey all ready said that they can't avoided it because Org. 13 can just go after the 7 princesses, so they are backed into a corner. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Headphone Jack 1,147 Posted April 26, 2016 yea i agree. the characters are so bland that they're all interchangeable and speculating over who is a Light is pointless 1 Hix reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GroovingOnUp 163 Posted April 26, 2016 Can't say i ever cared much about who were the seven lights. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AzureAce 544 Posted April 26, 2016 (edited) I personally feel that ultimately the lights have lost before the war has even begun, if we are to believe what the Book of Prophecies foretold. "On that land shall darkness prevail and light expire? The future, it's already been written." Implying that the Book of Prophecies foretells that the darknesses will win, and the lights will lose. Edit: However, what Young Eraqus replied after it intrigues me. "Who's to say I can't change it, maybe light will prevail? There's more to light than meets the eye. You might be surprised." We know that Eraqus' heart currently resides within Terra as we saw in the Final Episode of Birth by Sleep. So maybe he is the key to winning the war. If he and Terra are able to overcome Xehanort's reign over his heart, then maybe that is the key to winning Terra's heart back over to the side of the lights. Edited April 26, 2016 by AzureAce Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rikunobodyxiii 700 Posted April 26, 2016 Mickey all ready said that they can't avoided it because Org. 13 can just go after the 7 princesses, so they are backed into a corner. ah yes, I had forgotten. But even if the Princesses weren't in play, the Darknesses could get the Lights together by terrorizing the worlds. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hix 82 Posted April 26, 2016 Mickey all ready said that they can't avoided it because Org. 13 can just go after the 7 princesses, so they are backed into a corner. ah yes, I had forgotten. But even if the Princesses weren't in play, the Darknesses could get the Lights together by terrorizing the worlds. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I though that the 7 of light and the 13 of darkness all had to be Keyblade wielders. Even so, Kairi is one of those 7, and as long as she stays away from them and other good Keyblade wielders protect the other 6, the X blade can be prevented from being forged. Also, instead of every good Keyblade wielder going after Darkness and Organization 13 in the same world, they could split up into teams of 2 or 3 to protect multiple worlds at once, yet again preventing 7 from being in one place at the same time. the characters are so bland that they're all interchangeable and speculating over who is a Light is pointless Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rikunobodyxiii 700 Posted April 26, 2016 (edited) Correct me if I'm wrong, but I though that the 7 of light and the 13 of darkness all had to be Keyblade wielders. Even so, Kairi is one of those 7, and as long as she stays away from them and other good Keyblade wielders protect the other 6, the X blade can be prevented from being forged. Also, instead of every good Keyblade wielder going after Darkness and Organization 13 in the same world, they could split up into teams of 2 or 3 to protect multiple worlds at once, yet again preventing 7 from being in one place at the same time. if the Organization members work solo like before, then yes. But if the whole organization attacks in group, the only hope the Lights have to protect anybody is banding together. If they don't, innocent people will die. Edited April 26, 2016 by rikunobodyxiii 1 Kingdomhe reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Felixx 6,646 Posted April 26, 2016 Well I guess they could all stay seperated as you suggested, but then they would all get killed by the Organization, one by one, and darkness will take over every world. I doubt that any of the 7 Guardian of Lights is willed to risk that, so they just fight. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingdomHearts3 2,591 Posted April 26, 2016 I got to say, I am glad to hear this blunt point because just about overall, he's right. The seven and thirteen will clash and who the seven will be composed of doesn't matter. Master Xehanort never specified who will make the cut and who doesn't too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hix 82 Posted April 26, 2016 (edited) if the Organization members work solo like before, then yes. But if the whole organization attacks in group, the only hope the Lights have to protect anybody is banding together. If they don't, innocent people will die. Also, even though it would be breaking "The World Order", the good Keybladers can team up with some non-wielders that are powerful enough and travel across worlds with them via Gummi Ships or staying tethered together by a rope while diving into other worlds. As long as there's people in each world to beat the living crud out of the organization, I think it'll still be fine. Here are some pair ups I think are possible: Sora, Donald, Goofy (of course) Aqua and Cloud (the two are strong enough to not have a 3rd partner) Riku, Kairi, and Yuffie Lea and King Mickey (the two are strong enough to not have a 3rd partner) Ventus, Zack, and Leon (Squall) Plus, if Tidus, Selphie, and Wakka are old enough, they can protect the Destiny Islands. Yen Sid would act as an omniscient advisor, telling groups where Organization activity is so they can take care of it. Well I guess they could all stay seperated as you suggested, but then they would all get killed by the Organization, one by one, and darkness will take over every world. I doubt that any of the 7 Guardian of Lights is willed to risk that, so they just fight. Who's to say that one of them would be picked off one by one? Doing it solo would be stupid and deadly, but being partnered with one or more people would liekly tip the scales in an ambush. Also, when has the Organization been known to have every member attack at once and at one target? Edited April 26, 2016 by Hix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kingdomhe 1,362 Posted April 26, 2016 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I though that the 7 of light and the 13 of darkness all had to be Keyblade wielders. Even so, Kairi is one of those 7, and as long as she stays away from them and other good Keyblade wielders protect the other 6, the X blade can be prevented from being forged. Also, instead of every good Keyblade wielder going after Darkness and Organization 13 in the same world, they could split up into teams of 2 or 3 to protect multiple worlds at once, yet again preventing 7 from being in one place at the same time. if the Organization members work solo like before, then yes. But if the whole organization attacks in group, the only hope the Lights have to protect anybody is banding together. If they don't, innocent people will die. The ball is in Xehanort's court, even if they hide all the 7 princesses and lights, Xehanort can just start chaos to draw them out, starting with their homes. 1 rikunobodyxiii reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Felixx 6,646 Posted April 26, 2016 Also, even though it would be breaking "The World Order", the good Keybladers can team up with some non-wielders that are powerful enough and travel across worlds with them via Gummi Ships or staying tethered together by a rope while diving into other worlds. As long as there's people in each world to beat the living crud out of the organization, I think it'll still be fine. Here are some pair ups I think are possible: Sora, Donald, Goofy (of course) Aqua and Cloud (the two are strong enough to not have a 3rd partner) Riku, Kairi, and Yuffie Lea and King Mickey (the two are strong enough to not have a 3rd partner) Ventus, Zack, and Leon (Squall) Plus, if Tidus, Selphie, and Wakka are old enough, they can protect the Destiny Islands. Yen Sid would act as an omniscient advisor, telling groups where Organization activity is so they can take care of it. Who's to say that one of them would be picked off one by one? Doing it solo would be stupid and deadly, but being partnered with one or more people would liekly tip the scales in an ambush. Also, when has the Organization been known to have every member attack at once and at one target? Well Sora and the others haven't been known to avoid a fight, so they won't. The fight will happen, because it's destined to do so. Nothing we can change. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rikunobodyxiii 700 Posted April 26, 2016 Also, even though it would be breaking "The World Order", the good Keybladers can team up with some non-wielders that are powerful enough and travel across worlds with them via Gummi Ships or staying tethered together by a rope while diving into other worlds. As long as there's people in each world to beat the living crud out of the organization, I think it'll still be fine. Here are some pair ups I think are possible: Sora, Donald, Goofy (of course)Aqua and Cloud (the two are strong enough to not have a 3rd partner)Riku, Kairi, and YuffieLea and King Mickey (the two are strong enough to not have a 3rd partner)Ventus, Zack, and Leon (Squall) Plus, if Tidus, Selphie, and Wakka are old enough, they can protect the Destiny Islands. Yen Sid would act as an omniscient advisor, telling groups where Organization activity is so they can take care of it. Who's to say that one of them would be picked off one by one? Doing it solo would be stupid and deadly, but being partnered with one or more people would liekly tip the scales in an ambush. Also, when has the Organization been known to have every member attack at once and at one target?the addition of non-keyblade wielding allies does lessen the need for 7 Lights to come together. The only way around that I can think of for the Darknesses is if they start unleashing hoards of Heartless on the worlds of the allies, trying to weaken them by attrition.As for the last bit about the Organization not attacking in groups, I'll grant you that they have never historical done it, but they weren't in it for the final prize back then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Transcendent Key 12,109 Posted April 27, 2016 Well, that's fine and dandy and all, they could take that approach, but...the thing with that is, that if the Keyblade Wielders stalled like that, Xehanort would just target the Princesses Of Heart, so yeah, it'd pretty much be all for nothing, ya know? No matter what happens, the side of light is in trouble either way! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rvenxiii 9 Posted April 27, 2016 (edited) Why is Organization XIII even being discussed as the 13 wielders of darkness when every single one of them has been removed in one way or another? Technically, you could argue that some members of the Organization have joined the light (Roxas and Axel, for example?) Unless you're suggesting that Xehanort somehow recreates Organization XIII using the the real people counterparts of the departed Nobodies. (Though, I've always been under the impression that at the end of KHII, Sora has shaken a few screws loose in Xehanort's head and Terra is starting to come through again.) Editing because I just finished KH3D and I now understand the topic. In any case, I think knowing who the seven wielders of light are is important. If we have Sora, Riku, Mickey, Lea... that's four. I think Ventus and/or Roxas could be five/six. Aqua and/or Kairi would be six/seven. Since Terra's heart is trapped due to Master Xehanort, he can't be a member of the seven, but I do think that in the end he'll end up being what prevents the x-blade from becoming a reality and he'll turn the tide into 8 wielders of light. Edited May 2, 2016 by rvenxiii Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites