TV Once Upon A Time -- General Discussion

[Philip Ellwell 5,487]

No spoilers, please: I'll see it eventually. Probably after I finish the book. Sort of just living in a little bubble of denial for the second

 

But seriously, here's hoping Once gets a good send off, and someday gets mentioned in the same breath as Buffy and Charmed as "Best fantasy tv shows". 

[The Transcendent Key 12,109]

No spoilers, please: I'll see it eventually. Probably after I finish the book. Sort of just living in a little bubble of denial for the second

 

But seriously, here's hoping Once gets a good send off, and someday gets mentioned in the same breath as Buffy and Charmed as "Best fantasy tv shows". 

 

Worry not, I'm not a person that likes to spoil things for others! Just as much as I hate getting spoiled, so I understand you!  Lol, so no need to worry!

 

Hey, I'm sure that sometime down the road, Once will probably be indeed mentioned as a great take on Fairy Tale characters! Because it certainly is!

[Philip Ellwell 5,487]

Worry not, I'm not a person that likes to spoil things for others! Just as much as I hate getting spoiled, so I understand you!  Lol, so no need to worry!

 

Hey, I'm sure that sometime down the road, Once will probably be indeed mentioned as a great take on Fairy Tale characters! Because it certainly is!

Slightly off topic, Grimm was pretty good for fairy tale mayhem, as well. 

 

Much obliged: nothing's worse than a spoiler. 

[The Transcendent Key 12,109]

Slightly off topic, Grimm was pretty good for fairy tale mayhem, as well. 

 

Much obliged: nothing's worse than a spoiler. 

 

Hmm, I see! Interesting!

 

Haha, yeah, I feel ya! And the cool thing is, I'm actually disastrously good at avoiding spoilers! I guess it's a gift!

[Philip Ellwell 5,487]

Hmm, I see! Interesting!

 

Haha, yeah, I feel ya! And the cool thing is, I'm actually disastrously good at avoiding spoilers! I guess it's a gift!

I somehow stumble on them. I still remember when I ruined Dark Swan for myself... dang Tumblr. 

[The Transcendent Key 12,109]

I somehow stumble on them. I still remember when I ruined Dark Swan for myself... dang Tumblr. 

 

Ooh, I thought that Dark Swan was a very interesting arc in the show! I really loved how we got to see another side of Emma! She turned into her dark self all for trying to do it for the right reasons, but she went about things the wrong way. It hurt how everyone was against her, and it hurt that she wouldn't open up to them, ya know? Powerful stuff!

[Philip Ellwell 5,487]

Ooh, I thought that Dark Swan was a very interesting arc in the show! I really loved how we got to see another side of Emma! She turned into her dark self all for trying to do it for the right reasons, but she went about things the wrong way. It hurt how everyone was against her, and it hurt that she wouldn't open up to them, ya know? Powerful stuff!

Dark Hook seemed a little forced, though. It didn't really seem as poignant as Emma's turning into thee Dark One. 

[Ventus_ 396]

The Dark Swan had its intriguing elements, particularly her interactions with Merida but overall was a roundabout of gimmicks.

Hook being tied in as a second Dark One which felt abrupt, by the way, and Emma going behind the heroes' backs just so it could land back at the starting point with Rumple and be virtually forgotten left it a bit wasted. 

 

Now, the season 6 finale. 

WARNING SPOILERS AHEAD!

 

 

 

The final battle being not a test of power but of faith and the whole light destroying itself by clashing with itself was brilliant but as a whole, the concept had several flaws which prevented it from being entirely cohesive. 

 

- That the existence of all the fairy tale realms depended on one person's belief didn't add up for me when that was not the case when Emma was initially dragged into Storybrooke with no belief and Henry has the heart of the true believer, how would that have not had any power here?

 

- The fairy tale characters existence being dependent on the storybook was also a bit of a reach because the whole author arc established that the author's job wasn't to create the events but to be an observer and record keeper. Unless we're supposed to accept that Isaac's having abused the power changed the dynamic but the apprentice's concern about the abuse being repeated when Henry became the author argues otherwise. 

 

- The Black Fairy was rather idiotic to keep Henry, the one who'd gotten Emma to believe in the first place, in the same realm as Emma and with his belief intact. Which leads me to my next point.

 

- On what grounds did Henry and Rumple remain awake in the Black Fairy's cursed Storybrooke? 

 

- If the Black Fairy never lost possession of Gideon's heart than what did Rumple shove back into his chest two episodes ago? That felt quite abrupt and far-fetched and might have still even had it been explained.  

 

- Belle's condition wasn't explained.

 

Lastly:

- How the hell was Gideon reverted back into a newborn?

 

There were also some more minute oddities

- I personally felt it abrupt and strange that from the time Henry barges into the back of Rumple's shop (maybe a bit before that) until his first appearance under the Black Fairy's control, Gideon had just vanished. Where was he? 

 

- When Henry is seen being loaded into the ambulance after the Black Fairy shoved him down the stairs, he's in a neck brace which is not seen on him when he's in the hospital or since and how the hell did he not suffer a head injury?

 

Furthermore, it felt too packed with all the characters doing several different things, so that when one team of characters was returned to focus it seemed like it was an 'almost forgot' thing. 

The worst element was how the true love's kiss concept was used to resurrect characters. That was horribly unrealistic and cheesy.
I get it in the case of Emma/Henry, it was the flip-flop of when she saved him with a true love's kiss in season 1 but it was still horrible as was the Charming one. 

 

With Jennifer Morrison's departure, we were all on the edge of our seats wracking our brains over the endless possibilities of Emma's fate. Personally, when Henry conceded that he'd failed to restore her belief and went to face the Black Fairy himself, I almost half expected for that to be where she was left, where she started, returned to her life in Boston with no belief and Henry rising up as the new savior. That would have been intriguing and would have still effectively opened up the next saga as Henry's story which was the objective of this finale.  

 

This two-hour finale also opened up the new season and an entirely new Saga with Andrew West taking over the role of Henry because it's been aged ten years being ambushed by a daughter he was unaware of with the premise "You're family needs you". So in a way starting everything over again.
Confession time, I'm intrigued because it's been teased that Storybrooke is taking a back seat suggesting that it will be Enchanted Forest focused and the casting choice was good not overly impressed yet. 

 

Alright, I haven't said enough positive things.

 

Apart from the final battle concept itself, I liked the end scene which introduced to the Rumple and Belle dynamic that doing the right thing doesn't guarantee that the right or desired result will come of it and that it was Rumple not Emma who defeated the Black Fairy thereby illustrating that in snipping him at birth rather than herself, she more or less ensured that he met the very fate she was trying to prevent him from meeting. 
The end montage was actually flawless and cute. My favorite moments were Henry reuniting with Violet at the school bus, the Charmings having moved onto a farm which in a sense took David back to his shepherd roots and Belle and Rumple dancing.

 

 

Here is an interview with the show's creators that teases a bit about the 7th season:

http://tvline.com/2017/05/14/once-upon-a-time-season-6-finale-answers-season-7-spoilers/2/

 

It's official that Jennifer Morrison (Emma), Ginnifer Goodwin (Snow White), Josh Dallas (David), Emilie De Ravin (Belle) and Rebecca Mader (Zelena) are NOT returning for the 7th season:

http://www.blastr.com/2017-5-13/things-are-shaking-seventh-season-once-upon-time?__source=Blastr_Vayner_Syfy_Twitter&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=onceupon&utm_term=organic_audience&utm_content=organic

The latter two did express interest in continuing their roles but were told that the roles are no longer needed. 

It was actually the opposite case with Morrison, she was given the option to continue her role but declined. 

Edited May 16, 2017 by Ventus_

[twilight_roxas 326]

Once Upon A Time will be airing on Fridays in the fall.

[Mystics Apprentice 2,397]

So I watched the season finale yesterday, and I must say that I was pretty pleased with it.  It concluded this arc in the series rather well.  It had a sense of finality and closure to it, which I really appreciated.  I hate not knowing what happens to a group of characters and whether they get a happy ending or if they're still suffering.  I was pleased with the note that they left on, and while I'm still skeptical about season 7 I do get better vibes about it after watching the closure of season six.

 

To get more technical:

 

I absolutely hated the way that everyone was revived with true love's kiss.  It was unrealistic beyond belief and, as Ventus put it, cheesy to the max.  I don't know why they couldn't have come up with something more clever or realistic.  I get that this show isn't dark and that there's very few deaths, but I wish that there was something more intricate about being brought back.

 

I'm also rather confused on the time travel aspect and how Gideon returned to his state of infancy.  I have a few supposed theories on that, one being that the Black Fairy had something to do with time.  There was something odd about the way that time would flow around her, and she even made references alluding to this oddity.  There was also the reference of the watch that needed fixing of hers, so I wonder if it had something to do with her death that allowed Gideon to return to his original state (i.e. his aging had something to do with her magic).  I also have another theory, which brings me to my next point.

 

I don't understand fully what was meant about how dark and light did the right thing.  Were they referring to Rumple being the dark, or Gideon somehow?  It would make sense if both parties in the battle had done the right thing--which might've also had something to do with Gideon reverting to infancy--but from what was stated in the episode previously it sounds like Gideon had nothing to do with the darkness.  I am assuming that it was Rumple's choice that had done the right thing, though even still I don't know what choice he made that really did any good.  The heart he'd found was either false or had some kind of spell on it so that his words were null and void, so what good did it really do that he made the right choice?  I was baffled by that one.

 

It was absolutely fabulous to see all of the characters happy in the end.  I'm a sucker for happy endings, and to see everything work out in the end for everyone was really great for me.  I was especially concerned about Belle and Rumple--I thought he'd gone past a point of no return when he'd made excuses to keep his mother alive, but instead he atoned, did the right thing, and finally didn't feed into the darkness in his heart and helped everyone.  I've really wanted him to make such a choice for a very long time and to see him succeed and have a good life, so it was great to see that conclusion with Belle and baby Gideon.  I was also grateful to see that Emma and Hook both survived in the end, and were happy.  I still feel kind of bad for Regina in that she lost Robin for good, but it's nice that they've displayed her healing and that she still has loved ones that bring her joy, most specifically Henry.  I still kind of feel that Zelena's been dragged along for a while and serves no real purpose nor makes things interesting, but I can't really complain about her.  I did, however, dislike there always being "Regina" and "The Evil Queen" but I didn't mind the split itself, or the result.  I just kind of wish that her double died off as opposed to living on in another realm.

 

 

I really don't know what to think of season 7.  I still wish that they'd ended it here because I think that season six ended on a great note and would've concluded the series well, but I'm glad that they're not at least continuing on in the same timeline, and I hope that it is mostly new characters and not old ones.  So far, however, Once Upon a Time has done well with their storytelling, so hopefully they know what they are doing and don't make decisions that we'll sob over later. : P

 

The Dark Swan had its intriguing elements, particularly her interactions with Merida but overall was a roundabout of gimmicks.

Hook being tied in as a second Dark One which felt abrupt, by the way, and Emma going behind the heroes' backs just so it could land back at the starting point with Rumple and be virtually forgotten left it a bit wasted. 

 

Now, the season 6 finale. 

WARNING SPOILERS AHEAD!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The final battle being not a test of power but of faith was kind of brilliant but it had several flaws which prevented it from being entirely cohesive. 

 

- That the existence of all the fairy tale realms depended on one person's belief didn't add up for me when that was not the case when Emma was initially dragged into Storybrooke with no belief and Henry has the heart of the true believer, how would that have not had any power here?

- The fairy tale characters existence being dependent on the storybook was also a bit of a reach because the whole author arc established that the author's job wasn't to create the events but to record them as they happen. Unless we're supposed to accept that Isaac's having abused the power changed the dynamic but the apprentice's concern about the abuse being repeated when Henry became the author argues otherwise. 

- The Black Fairy was rather idiotic to keep Henry, the one who'd gotten Emma to believe in the first place, in the same realm as Emma and awake. Which leads me to my next point.

- On what grounds did Henry and Rumple remain awake in the Black Fairy's cursed Storybrooke? 

- If the Black Fairy never lost possession of Gideon's heart than what did Rumple shove back into his chest two episodes ago? That felt quite abrupt and far-fetched and might have still even had it been explained.  

- Belle's condition wasn't explained.

- It isn't clear what the Black Fairy's objective was.

Lastly:

- How the hell did Gideon get aged back into a newborn?

 

There were also some more minute oddities

- I personally felt it abrupt and strange that from the time Henry barges into the back of Rumple's shop (maybe a bit before that) until his first appearance under the Black Fairy's control, Gideon had just vanished. Where was he? 

- When Henry is seen being loaded into the ambulance after the Black Fairy shoved him down the stairs, he's in a neck brace which is not seen on him when he's in the hospital or since and how the hell did he not suffer a head injury?

 

Furthermore, I felt like it was a bit jammed packed with all characters doing several different things, throwing The Evil--or rather Not So Evil Queen back into the to mix seemed forced and whenever one team of characters was returned to it felt like a "crap, almost forgot" thing.

Then, one of the worst elements was how the whole waking people which now apparently stepped up to resurrecting people with true love's kiss thing got cheesy to the max. I get it in the case of Emma/Henry, it was the flip-flop of when she saved him with a true love's kiss in season 1 but I didn't buy it nor the Charming one. I would have preferred it if Emma and David had died. 

 

With Jennifer Morrison's departure, we were all on the edge of our seats wracking our brains over the endless possibilities of Emma's fate. Personally, when Henry conceded that he'd failed to restore her belief and went to face the Black Fairy himself, I almost half expected for that to be where she was left, where she started, returned to her life in Boston with no belief and Henry rising up as the new savior. That would have been intriguing and would have still effectively opened up the next saga as Henry's story which was the objective of this finale.  

 

This two-hour finale also opened up the new season and an entirely new Saga with Andrew West taking over the role of Henry because it's been aged ten years being ambushed by a daughter he was unaware of with the premise "You're family needs you". So in a way starting everything over again.
Confession time, I'm intrigued because it's been teased that Storybrooke is taking a back seat suggesting that it will be Enchanted Forest focused and the casting choice was good not overly impressed yet. 

 

Alright, I haven't said enough positive things.

 

Apart from the final battle concept itself, I liked the end scene which introduced to the Rumple and Belle dynamic that doing the right thing doesn't guarantee that the right or desired result will come of it and that it was Rumple not Emma who defeated the Black Fairy thereby illustrating that in snipping him at birth rather than herself, she more or less ensured that he met the very fate she was trying to prevent him from meeting. 
The end montage was actually flawless and cute. My favorite moments were Henry reuniting with Violet at the school bus, the Charmings having moved onto a farm which in a sense took David back to his shepherd roots and Belle and Rumple dancing. 

 

Here is an interview with the show's creators that teases a bit about the 7th season:

http://tvline.com/2017/05/14/once-upon-a-time-season-6-finale-answers-season-7-spoilers/2/

 

It's official that Jennifer Morrison (Emma), Ginnifer Goodwin (Snow White), Josh Dallas (David), Emilie De Ravin (Belle) and Rebecca Mader (Zelena) are NOT returning for the 7th season:

http://www.blastr.com/2017-5-13/things-are-shaking-seventh-season-once-upon-time?__source=Blastr_Vayner_Syfy_Twitter&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=onceupon&utm_term=organic_audience&utm_content=organic

The latter two did express interest in continuing their roles but were told that the roles are no longer needed. 

It was actually the opposite case with Morrison, she was given the option to continue her role but declined.

 

 

I have a few theories, but mostly, yeah, I agree with your questioning on multiple fronts.  There were somethings that didn't make a lot of sense to me.  To be honest, I felt that the plot of the finale would've done much better to have been a good ten episodes or so as opposed to cramming everything into two.  It had so many possibilities and everything was rushed/unexplained.

 

 

 

1. I am kind of thinking that a small part of belief always resided in Emma, but she couldn't admit it to herself in the beginning.  After this latest curse by the Black Fairy, however, she pretty much felt the need to force herself to let go of this long-held belief for Henry's sake, which in turn resulted in the destruction of the worlds.  Emma's considered the savior so it's *possible* that the fate of the fairy-tale worlds resides on her shoulders, but it is also farfetched.  I don't think the storybook had that much to do with the fate of the worlds but, rather, was symbolic.  In Emma destroying the book she was admitting to letting go of her belief and everything in it, because when she believed in it again the destruction of the Enchanted Forest halted.  I don't think this could've happened had the book been directly tethered to its preservation,  as it was completely destroyed.  Also, The Enchanted Forest still remained even after the book was burned, furthering my position on the matter.

 

I also got to thinking that maybe the curse was what tethered the fairytale worlds' fate to Emma's belief, and that it hadn't been that way always, but I am not entirely certain on that one.  I wish they could've elaborated.

 

2. I don't know why the Black Fairy kept Henry around.  That was completely stupid, and strangely unlike her because she normally isn't stupid.  I honestly think they did it out of convenience than anything even though it didn't make sense . . . . 

 

3. Rumple mentioned something about not trusting his mother for this curse, so he did some preparations.  I'm guessing that he took some kind of potion so that he would retain his memories, just in case.  As for Henry, I really don't know how he remembered, but I'm wondering if it has something to do with having the heart of the truest believer.  Truthfully, though, I'm going to point at the convenience factor again and assume they did it for ease on their part.

 

4. Belle had some kind of phobia/hysteria situation going on, but I don't really know why either.  She seemed terrified of the Black Fairy, so perhaps she had been doing something to her?  I kept hoping they would talk about this but they never came back to it.

 

5. The Black Fairy, I believe, wanted to snuff out all of the light for good, which is why she had Light vs. Light fight, so that either way light couldn't prevail.  She favored darkness and wanted all of this power to herself; she had even bragged about how she could bring people back from the dead.  Can't remember, but I thought she wanted to rule all as well.  She'd kind of gone over her plans with Rumple shortly before he killed her, as well as some time leading up to the final battle.

 

Also, I couldn't agree with you more on the cheesiness of all these kisses of true love going around.  It was so unrealistic and just bizarre.  I didn't like that AT ALL.  I can forgive some discrepancies because, hey, the series has had its flaws and isn't perfect, but I just felt in general like they packed too much in these two episodes and should've done better explaining, planning, and pacing.

 

[Ventus_ 396]

First of all, I'm going to edit my review a bit because I didn't consider the spoiler tags. 

 

I'm also rather confused on the time travel aspect and how Gideon returned to his state of infancy.  I have a few supposed theories on that, one being that the Black Fairy had something to do with time.  There was something odd about the way that time would flow around her, and she even made references alluding to this oddity.  There was also the reference of the watch that needed fixing of hers, so I wonder if it had something to do with her death that allowed Gideon to return to his original state (i.e. his aging had something to do with her magic). 

 

 

 

 

Gideon's fate was not tethered to The Black Fairy as he'd remained under her influence after her death. It had to be something to do with that whole 'both light and dark did the right thing' concept.

 

 

I don't understand fully what was meant about how dark and light did the right thing.  Were they referring to Rumple being the dark, or Gideon somehow?  It would make sense if both parties in the battle had done the right thing--which might've also had something to do with Gideon reverting to infancy--but from what was stated in the episode previously it sounds like Gideon had nothing to do with the darkness.  I am assuming that it was Rumple's choice that had done the right thing, though even still I don't know what choice he made that really did any good.  The heart he'd found was either false or had some kind of spell on it so that his words were null and void, so what good did it really do that he made the right choice?  I was baffled by that one.

 

 

I believe dark doing the right thing was referring to Rumple since he's The Dark One, which is darkness itself personified. The point wasn't the result but the choice in itself. Our choices are what define us as people. My issue was that I don't recall that the alternative carried much power over him considering that this was his child on the line. 

 

As you pointed out The Black Fairy's objective was to destroy the light via clashing it with itself, thus Gideon was light.

 

In retrospect, that's something else I liked and it might have been the most intelligent thing to happen in this whole series. If light opposes itself, it would be contradicting itself thus becoming darkness. 

My theory as to the loophole was that Emma's "death" was martyred so there was no clash and it would have rationally depended on her choice because since Gideon wasn't acting willfully, it was on her end alone that light would have clashed with itself. 

On that note, I felt the reactions were weak. Henry's was the only one I bought. 

 

I feel Emma's sacrifice would have meant more had her death been final but then we'd have gotten no so happy an ending and while under any other circumstances I'd argue that there is nothing wrong with that, I get it, this is a Disney fairy tale show, so all the protagonists have to live. 

 

 

 

I don't know why the Black Fairy kept Henry around.  That was completely stupid, and strangely unlike her because she normally isn't stupid.  I honestly think they did it out of convenience than anything even though it didn't make sense . . . . 

 

 

 

Rumple mentioned something about not trusting his mother for this curse, so he did some preparations.  I'm guessing that he took some kind of potion so that he would retain his memories, just in case.  As for Henry, I really don't know how he remembered, but I'm wondering if it has something to do with having the heart of the truest believer.  Truthfully, though, I'm going to point at the convenience factor again and assume they did it for ease on their part.

 

 

 

Alright, on the Rumple front, that was me having a dumb moment. I forgot to consider him mentioning that he didn't trust The Black Fairy with this curse.

As to Henry's role, it would have made less sense and perhaps was impossible to send him to The Enchanted Forest amongst the fairy tale peril since he's not from The Enchanted Forest but something you said earlier may have rationalized it:

 

"After this latest curse by the Black Fairy, however, she pretty much felt the need to force herself to let go of this long-held belief for Henry's sake"

 

The Black Fairy perhaps knew that the only way to get Emma to let go of that little remaining flicker of belief was to convince her that it was for Henry's well-being which would require him to be around and to still believe to illustrate to Emma how diluted his claims were.

Still, however, very risky move considering that initially, Henry's belief is what blossomed hers, not withered it.  

 

 

 

 

Also, I couldn't agree with you more on the cheesiness of all these kisses of true love going around.  It was so unrealistic and just bizarre.  I didn't like that AT ALL.  I can forgive some discrepancies because, hey, the series has had its flaws and isn't perfect, but I just felt in general like they packed too much in these two episodes and should've done better explaining, planning, and pacing.

 

 

 

I couldn't have said this better and have nothing to add.  

[The Transcendent Key 12,109]

Dark Hook seemed a little forced, though. It didn't really seem as poignant as Emma's turning into thee Dark One. 

 

Yeah, I know what you mean. His transformation into the Dark One seemed rushed, and it kinda jumbled up the pacing of the Dark Swan Arc, ya know? Good thing he didn't last long as a Dark One, though!

 

The Dark Swan had its intriguing elements, particularly her interactions with Merida but overall was a roundabout of gimmicks.

Hook being tied in as a second Dark One which felt abrupt, by the way, and Emma going behind the heroes' backs just so it could land back at the starting point with Rumple and be virtually forgotten left it a bit wasted. 

 

Now, the season 6 finale. 

WARNING SPOILERS AHEAD!

 

 

 

The final battle being not a test of power but of faith and the whole light destroying itself by clashing with itself was brilliant but as a whole, the concept had several flaws which prevented it from being entirely cohesive. 

 

- That the existence of all the fairy tale realms depended on one person's belief didn't add up for me when that was not the case when Emma was initially dragged into Storybrooke with no belief and Henry has the heart of the true believer, how would that have not had any power here?

 

- The fairy tale characters existence being dependent on the storybook was also a bit of a reach because the whole author arc established that the author's job wasn't to create the events but to be an observer and record keeper. Unless we're supposed to accept that Isaac's having abused the power changed the dynamic but the apprentice's concern about the abuse being repeated when Henry became the author argues otherwise. 

 

- The Black Fairy was rather idiotic to keep Henry, the one who'd gotten Emma to believe in the first place, in the same realm as Emma and with his belief intact. Which leads me to my next point.

 

- On what grounds did Henry and Rumple remain awake in the Black Fairy's cursed Storybrooke? 

 

- If the Black Fairy never lost possession of Gideon's heart than what did Rumple shove back into his chest two episodes ago? That felt quite abrupt and far-fetched and might have still even had it been explained.  

 

- Belle's condition wasn't explained.

 

Lastly:

- How the hell was Gideon reverted back into a newborn?

 

There were also some more minute oddities

- I personally felt it abrupt and strange that from the time Henry barges into the back of Rumple's shop (maybe a bit before that) until his first appearance under the Black Fairy's control, Gideon had just vanished. Where was he? 

 

- When Henry is seen being loaded into the ambulance after the Black Fairy shoved him down the stairs, he's in a neck brace which is not seen on him when he's in the hospital or since and how the hell did he not suffer a head injury?

 

Furthermore, it felt too packed with all the characters doing several different things, so that when one team of characters was returned to focus it seemed like it was an 'almost forgot' thing. 

The worst element was how the true love's kiss concept was used to resurrect characters. That was horribly unrealistic and cheesy.

I get it in the case of Emma/Henry, it was the flip-flop of when she saved him with a true love's kiss in season 1 but it was still horrible as was the Charming one. 

 

With Jennifer Morrison's departure, we were all on the edge of our seats wracking our brains over the endless possibilities of Emma's fate. Personally, when Henry conceded that he'd failed to restore her belief and went to face the Black Fairy himself, I almost half expected for that to be where she was left, where she started, returned to her life in Boston with no belief and Henry rising up as the new savior. That would have been intriguing and would have still effectively opened up the next saga as Henry's story which was the objective of this finale.  

 

This two-hour finale also opened up the new season and an entirely new Saga with Andrew West taking over the role of Henry because it's been aged ten years being ambushed by a daughter he was unaware of with the premise "You're family needs you". So in a way starting everything over again.

Confession time, I'm intrigued because it's been teased that Storybrooke is taking a back seat suggesting that it will be Enchanted Forest focused and the casting choice was good not overly impressed yet. 

 

Alright, I haven't said enough positive things.

 

Apart from the final battle concept itself, I liked the end scene which introduced to the Rumple and Belle dynamic that doing the right thing doesn't guarantee that the right or desired result will come of it and that it was Rumple not Emma who defeated the Black Fairy thereby illustrating that in snipping him at birth rather than herself, she more or less ensured that he met the very fate she was trying to prevent him from meeting. 

The end montage was actually flawless and cute. My favorite moments were Henry reuniting with Violet at the school bus, the Charmings having moved onto a farm which in a sense took David back to his shepherd roots and Belle and Rumple dancing.

 

 

Here is an interview with the show's creators that teases a bit about the 7th season:

http://tvline.com/2017/05/14/once-upon-a-time-season-6-finale-answers-season-7-spoilers/2/

 

It's official that Jennifer Morrison (Emma), Ginnifer Goodwin (Snow White), Josh Dallas (David), Emilie De Ravin (Belle) and Rebecca Mader (Zelena) are NOT returning for the 7th season:

http://www.blastr.com/2017-5-13/things-are-shaking-seventh-season-once-upon-time?__source=Blastr_Vayner_Syfy_Twitter&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=onceupon&utm_term=organic_audience&utm_content=organic

The latter two did express interest in continuing their roles but were told that the roles are no longer needed. 

It was actually the opposite case with Morrison, she was given the option to continue her role but declined. 

 

Hmm, so it turns out that Season 7 could lead to something interesting...I'm still a little skeptical about it, but well, when I see footage of Season 7 in action, I'll give my opinion, ya know?

 

And well, as for the finale in and of itself, I thought that it was amazing, and it had some pretty good plot twists, though I do think that some things were rushed! But in the grand scheme of things, everyone's story ended on a high note, and truly, I think this would have been a perfect way to end the series, as it had a literal happy ending! But with the story set to continue with an adult Henry, we'll see how things will turn out!

 

 

 

I loved the whole twist about the Final Battle. I actually thought it was going to be a big smackdown between the Black Fairy and Emma, but when this turned out to be completely different, and instead it was a battle of will and belief, that impressed me! I was also greatly impressed and surprised when Rumple killed off his own mother! The dude just ended her, just like that! It was unexpected, but it was something that I thought was a redeeming moment for him! I'm very happy that he and Belle ended up together, and dancing to the Beauty And The Beast song, no less! That brought a goofy grin to my face! And at least now they can raise Gideon, as he's turned back into a baby!

 

I also loved that Emma and Hook got to be together and that they didn't lose each other! I really loved how their relationship evolved throughout the course of the series, and the way it was all topped off with them being married was truly awesome, as Emma finally found her long deserved happiness!

 

I'm also happy that Regina was also fully redeemed, because after everything she went through, she ended up being loved by the people of Storybrooke and her family, and even though she lost Robin, she gained so much more! I'm really happy for her on that front!

 

 

 

In essence, what surprised me the most was the amount of screentime we got from Henry for these last two Episodes. I had been thinking that he was just tossed aside after the first three seasons, because really, he didn't do much else after, and every time he wanted to help, he was always brushed aside, diminishing his character development, ya know? So it was nice seeing him back in the swing of things in the Final Battle! Could've used more development though! That's where adult Henry comes in, I take it!

 

But yeah, overall, the finale was awesome, and I can only hope that Season 7 is good enough for the show not to get cancelled!

 

Ooh, and also, may I just say, the actress who played the role of the Black Fairy is so insanely hot! Like seriously, that face of hers, that sexy voice, her hair, everything! She was one heck of a villain! WHO IS THIS ACTRESS, AND WHY HADN'T I SEEN HER BEFORE!?

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So it seems that season 7 will be a new saga and for the next generation. Interesting. I like how they bring it around.

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So it seems that season 7 will be a new saga and for the next generation. Interesting. I like how they bring it around.

 

Yeah, let's just hope that the season is good enough that ratings will be healthy. Because remember, a show lives and dies by the ratings it makes on television, and Once Upon A Time has been struggling with ratings for a while now. I really hope that this series can be able to reach its end point without getting cancelled, ya know?

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So it seems that season 7 will be a new saga and for the next generation. Interesting. I like how they bring it around.

 

 

Yeah, let's just hope that the season is good enough that ratings will be healthy. Because remember, a show lives and dies by the ratings it makes on television, and Once Upon A Time has been struggling with ratings for a while now. I really hope that this series can be able to reach its end point without getting cancelled, ya know?

 

What intrigues me the most is the tease that it will largely take place in The Enchanted Forest but overall the direction is risky. 

Over half the popular characters and all of the popular couples are going to be gone and it's basically the Emma/Henry thing all over again with Henry and a daughter he didn't know he had. I'm betting Violet is the mother.  

I do believe the casting of the adult Henry was pretty much perfect and the daughter seems very charismatic. 

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What intrigues me the most is the tease that it will largely take place in The Enchanted Forest but overall the direction is risky. 

Over half the popular characters and all of the popular couples are going to be gone and it's basically the Emma/Henry thing all over again with Henry and a daughter he didn't know he had. I'm betting Violet is the mother.  

I do believe the casting of the adult Henry was pretty much perfect and the daughter seems very charismatic. 

 

Yeah, I know what you mean! Adult Henry looks and acts perfect, and Lucy seems like a really charismatic character indeed! She's just so adorable, and I love the way she speaks! She sounds very adult for her age, and I dunno, there's just something about this character that piques my interest! Well, we'll have to wait and see how this ends up!

 

And with the story potentially majorly being in the Enchanted Forest, while it is a risky move, it could give us more opportunities to visit new lands! I'm betting that there will be characters from Princess And The Frog, Moana, and maybe even hidden gems like Atlantis and Treasure Planet! If other Disney properties had their time to shine, maybe Season 7 will bring quite a few new faces into the fray, ya know?

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Yeah, I know what you mean! Adult Henry looks and acts perfect, and Lucy seems like a really charismatic character indeed! She's just so adorable, and I love the way she speaks! She sounds very adult for her age, and I dunno, there's just something about this character that piques my interest! Well, we'll have to wait and see how this ends up!

 

And with the story potentially majorly being in the Enchanted Forest, while it is a risky move, it could give us more opportunities to visit new lands! I'm betting that there will be characters from Princess And The Frog, Moana, and maybe even hidden gems like Atlantis and Treasure Planet! If other Disney properties had their time to shine, maybe Season 7 will bring quite a few new faces into the fray, ya know?

 

Princess and the Frog and Moana would be interesting films for Once to visit.

Atlantis is a bit of a stretch but I'd be interested in seeing them try. 

Not so sure how possible Treasure Planet is because only two characters (Jim and his mom) are human. 

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Princess and the Frog and Moana would be interesting films for Once to visit.

Atlantis is a bit of a stretch but I'd be interested in seeing them try. 

Not so sure how possible Treasure Planet is because only two characters (Jim and his mom) are human. 

 

Indeed, and given the popularity Moana has gotten recently, it's probable Once would venture into there, a la Frozen back when that film released!

And well, it doesn't have to be that much of a stretch! With the vibe Atlantis has, I could see it being a realm in the Land Of Untold Stories, since Atlantis isn't a fairy tale film, ya know? I think it could fit, given the right script!

Hmm, you got a good point on that! But, this could be a neat way to introduce other species in Once, because if there can be Dwarves and Fairies, then maybe Once could expand and introduce more species, ya know?

 

Anything is possible!

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Indeed, and given the popularity Moana has gotten recently, it's probable Once would venture into there, a la Frozen back when that film released!

And well, it doesn't have to be that much of a stretch! With the vibe Atlantis has, I could see it being a realm in the Land Of Untold Stories, since Atlantis isn't a fairy tale film, ya know? I think it could fit, given the right script!

Hmm, you got a good point on that! But, this could be a neat way to introduce other species in Once, because if there can be Dwarves and Fairies, then maybe Once could expand and introduce more species, ya know?

 

Anything is possible!

 

A story isn't required to exist in the Realm of Untold Stories just because it's not a fairytale. Once has explored several non-fairy tale stories, some of which came before The Realm of Untold Stories was even introduced. 

- Frankenstein

- King Midas

- Count of Monte Cristo

- 2000 Leagues Under the Sea.

- Jekyll and Hyde

- King Arther

- The Wizard of Oz

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What intrigues me the most is the tease that it will largely take place in The Enchanted Forest but overall the direction is risky. 

Over half the popular characters and all of the popular couples are going to be gone and it's basically the Emma/Henry thing all over again with Henry and a daughter he didn't know he had. I'm betting Violet is the mother.  

I do believe the casting of the adult Henry was pretty much perfect and the daughter seems very charismatic. 

A&E confirmed that Violet isn't Lucy's mother, but said her mother is from the fairy tale realm.

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A&E confirmed that Violet isn't Lucy's mother, but said her mother is from the fairy tale realm.

 

Like mother like son huh?

Now that has me interested as well. 

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A story isn't required to exist in the Realm of Untold Stories just because it's not a fairytale. Once has explored several non-fairy tale stories, some of which came before The Realm of Untold Stories was even introduced. 

- Frankenstein

- King Midas

- Count of Monte Cristo

- 2000 Leagues Under the Sea.

- Jekyll and Hyde

- King Arther

- The Wizard of Oz

 

Ah, that's right! Well, there ya go! That's more than enough good reason to hope for Atlantis to one day be incorporated, if the writers ever even consider it, that is.

 

A&E confirmed that Violet isn't Lucy's mother, but said her mother is from the fairy tale realm.

 

Huh, well I wonder what happened there, eh? I guess we'll find out!

 

Like mother like son huh?

Now that has me interested as well. 

 

It looks like Season 7 might shape up to be more interesting than we thought!

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I'm actually interested in s7, even though I haven't seen Once in a WHILE. I'll probably see the s6 finale at some point, but I think getting away from Emma is actually a pretty good thing - she was a pretty big part as to why I burned out on the show.

 

And I like Henry a lot, so I'm curious on adult!Henry

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I concur that Emma's story has lived out its capacity, arguably past it. 

Moving on to a new protagonist is smart and Henry's adulthood is the blankest slate left in the entire show making it the most adequate to work with. As is the Enchanted Forest as a more present setting. 

So I do see potential here.

 

I'm just concerned about there being too many similar elements to Emma's story, that would throw a monkey wrench in said potential. 

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I'm actually interested in s7, even though I haven't seen Once in a WHILE. I'll probably see the s6 finale at some point, but I think getting away from Emma is actually a pretty good thing - she was a pretty big part as to why I burned out on the show.

 

And I like Henry a lot, so I'm curious on adult!Henry

 

Well, it certainly seems as though things will take an interesting turn with Henry! Here's hoping we get a good Season, ya know?

 

I concur that Emma's story has lived out its capacity, arguably past it. 

Moving on to a new protagonist is smart and Henry's adulthood is the blankest slate left in the entire show making it the most adequate to work with. As is the Enchanted Forest as a more present setting. 

So I do see potential here.

 

I'm just concerned about there being too many similar elements to Emma's story, that would throw a monkey wrench in said potential. 

 

Yeah, I know what you mean. The big fear here is that it'll all be one big copy paste, but let's hope that doesn't end up being the case, ya know?