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He seems like it to be fair

What did Lea do for Kairi other than kidnapping her

That was the old Axel. Not technically Lea, but Lea spent a load of time apologising and training with Kairi. Got her Ice Cream a lot apparently too. That and tried to defend her and Sora. He made up for everything he did but mostly off camera.

Yes tbh the somebodies and nobodies are basically the same, Larxene seems very different but that must be because of something that's happened

Honestly I would have preferred if they had kept at least some nobody traits when returning to being somebodies

Ienzo basically became "helpful good guy"

Well, we don't know if Dilan or Aeleus kept any of their traits because they didn't speak in KH3

And Aeleus had, like, two lines in 3D

Even still kept his creepy nature

He's had it since BBS

Apparently they were scientists too

Dilan and Aelus, I mean

It's sad they had no other parts

Eh

Too many characters, too little plot

I mean they had like 8 games to do it

:Dontthinkdrink:

To be fair, how much story with side characters can you tell with 8 games totaling 170+ hours of story

It's not like Kingdom Hearts is an RPG or anything

Maybe we can exclude KH1 since Org 13 didn't exist yet

Yes, the nobodies are just dick versions of the somebodies but my point is what Miggles said is basically right, it's not like Saix is some completely different person to Isa

Well, we don't know a lot about Isa as it stands, we can only gleam so much from his 3 minutes in BBS

He did seem a tad dickish, I guess

How much do you want to bet he lost his dickish side completely after KH3

That's the thing

They've gone back to somebodies but they've still got that past as nobodies, I don't consider them different characters tbh

They are still the same "character", the issue is the sudden personality changes

Which only seems to apply to Ienzo so far tbh

I mean, if Roxas is considered a different character, wouldn't the same be applied to the others

Roxas is different

Is he tho

Yes

Only difference is he has no memories

He's very different

He took after Ventus

The other had them but they are still in the situation of "no heart, no feelings"

Nobodies gain their appearances after the heart for some reason and he took after Ventus

I want to discuss this more but stupid work is in the way

Because I have had this thought for a while

It's made clear in the games that he is different to the average nobody, that he is special