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15 hours ago, Aqua_Wren said:

@King Arthur13 @Vexoria @DANNY.R.G.8 In the games files, the losing ending is called the bad ending, but the winning version is called the True Ending, not the good ending.

Also winning gets the new tag line and all that, it's far, far more likely that winning is canon.

I think that both endings are canon but the true ending is what actually happened and the bad ending may have been what Riku or Kairi saw in their dreams.  Either way, i think him being crystalized will still be relevant somehow

Because seriously, if Roxas and Sora are different people then so are Axel and Lea

The only difference between them is that Roxas didn't have any memories

yeah its how it originally worked i thought

So he started fresh and learned to become his own

If he had Sora's memories then he would just be Sora in Vens body

Without feelings that is

Because that was a huge plot point

yeah pretty much

he was different because of the circumstances that created him

yupp

Namine is a whole other can tho

axel and lea should have actually been different

She was created in a very special situation

It's not just Axel and Lea tho, goes for all the members of the organization

exactly

heres what I thought was going to happen back when I beat KH bbs

axel would come back, but with no memories of the org and he would relearn about his life as an org member and eventually remember roxas and later xion

That could have worked

its honestly what i thought ddd was doing until the whole "somebodies" thing happened

it really does defeat the purpose of nobodies to have the og org members just come back to life after they "die" as org members

But Axel is 100% Lea in body and mind

Sora retained his soul/mind when he became a heartless so that never transerred over to Roxas.  Roxas' mind was a clean slate

but thats the thing, nobodies are not people tho

they are still different

DDD says otherwise

so they should always be two seperate beings

I dont think they said they were people, just that they grew hearts

which albeit makes them people in all but name alone

however it means they get to keep all those cool nobody powers

That's another thing

Them growing hearts means that they become their own person

but then dying and coming back means they are still their own person

If that were the case why would they still have their old memories and appearance?  They are the same as their original selves, minus a heart

thats what a nobody is, its a mind and a body

but look at what regular nobodies look like

dusks, creepers, assasins

they look different because they are different

Well yes and no

organization members are still nobodies that managed to keep a closer resemblence to what they originally looked like

The organization was built of Nobodies with stronger minds and retained their form

No, I think that was a lie

Or a truth they didn't know

the ones that had exceptionally strong hearts can keep their bodies

Think about how they were all created

They were stabbed with a keyblade

So was Sora when Namine and Roxas were created