Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep Volume 2 Theory and Worlds

[Razorwind Keyblade 304]

Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep Volume 2 suposedly takes place in the Realm of Darkness with Aqua as the main character. In Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep Fianl Mix, a secret ending named Zero Point allows us to play as Aqua in the Realm of Darkness. In the Realm of Darkness (ROD for short) Aqua encounters many Heartless. Including the Unknown Heartless Red Eyes. From what I've seen (in a Japanese video) Aqua may think the Heartless are Unversed but later finds out that they are something else.

 

After you finish Aqua's events in the Realm of Darkness you can watch another secret ending: Zero-Point. Not only does Zero-Point show scenes from various Kingdom Hearts events but it introduces a new game: Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep Volume 2. In the very end you can also see Aqua, watching Castle of Dreams get plunged into darkness (most likely by Malificent). This is enough for us fans to know Castle of Dreams will definatly be one of the worlds.

 

Tetsuya Nomura said there will be a mystery game revealed in KHBBSFM. Thats the most we've heard so far. But you can expect the game to be confirmed at E3'11 along with more news.

 

My Theory: Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep Volume 2 will take place in the Realm of Darkness with Aqua and Mickey as the main and playable characters. It's pretty obvious why Aqua will be the main character. Mickey will be another one of the main characters because he went to the Realm of Darkness to find the Kingdom Key of Darkness. In BBS Vol. 2 we may learn about Mickey's adventure in the ROD and how he found the Kingdom Key D. This could also be the first game in which you play as Mickey throughout the whole story (I think that Disney will like this idea). I don't think there will be any other characters. Riku has been a possible suggestion as well as Kairi.

 

Timeline: BBS Vol. 2's timeline is supposed to be between Birth By Sleep and Kingdom Hearts 1. A five year gap. Zero-point pretty much points this out, though most people think it's story will expand further. Possibly all the way to Dream Drop Distance. Also note that when Aqua met Ansem it was in the ROD and their meeting was after KH2 so thats obvious proof BBS Vol. 2 will go beyond KH1.

 

Characters: It is unknown what characters will be in Birth By Sleep Volume 2. But we can speculate that Aqua, Mickey, and a couple of other main KH charaters will be in it. Cinderella's world also was shown in Zero-point so the characters in that world likely will be in it. The Mysterious Figure could also play a role in this game.

 

Story: The story of BBS Vol. 2 could be about Aqua and her progession through the ROD as well as how King Mickey finds the Kingdom Key D. The story of KHBBSV2 will probally be more than this.

 

Enimes: As of now, there are three different types of enimes in the Kingdom Hearts series (two with the exception of the Unversed because they are no longer alive, due to the downfall of Vanitas). It's already a No Brainer that the Heartless will be one of the enimes in this game. Knowing the game may go beyond KH1 the Nobodies could also make an apearence.

 

Systems: All Kingdom Hearts games (with the exception of coded) have been on either Sony or Nintendo platforms. Most people think BBS vol. 2 will be coming out on PSP because BBS came out PSP. Hopefully it will because three Kingdom Hearts games have already come out on DS, even though the games that came out on DS are not as important as BBS. I hope BBS vol. 2 will be out on NGP because it will be the first KH game to have HD graphics. But it is unlikely because the Square-Enix staff might have already planned to release this game on the original PSP and has very little expirence with the NGP.

 

Worlds: We don't know any of the worlds that will make an apearence in BBS Vol. 2 because nothing's been confirmed. But Zero-Point was kind of a give away because it shows a scene with Aqua watching the Castle of Dreams get plunged into darkness. Here are all the worlds I think will make an apearence and why.

 

Castle of Dreams: Castle of Dreams is a no brainer. You can't doubt that it will be in BBSV2 because in Zero-Point Aqua watches the world get destroyed by the Heartless. I also think Castle of Dreams will be in this game because it's the world where one of the 7 Princesses of Heart lives, making it a main target for Malificent and the Heartless. It is also revealed in KH1 that Cinderella's world was destroyed. Aqua is familiar with this world.

 

Dwarf Woodlands: Dwarf Woodlands has a high chance of being in KHBBSV2. It's where Snow White lives so I'm sure it's another main target for Malificent. Snow White has said in KH1 that her world was destroyed. Aqua's familiar with this world too.

 

Enchanted Dominion: The home world of Malificent and where resident Sleeping Beauty lives. Malificent has captured Aurora's heart already (with the help of Terra). But Ven and Aqua foiled her plans and Aurora's heart has been returned to her. I'm sure Malificent has no problem with destroying her home world and filling it up with darkness (leaving her minions to die). This is another princess world that Aqua is familiar with.

 

Beast's Castle: Beast's Castle is another world with a Princess of Heart in it. Belle has stated that her world was destroyed by the darkness in KH1 (it later reapeared in KH2). Beast's Castle is a target for Malificent because Belle lives there. This world most likely will be in BBS Vol. 2.

 

The Land of Dragons: In Jiminey's journal, if you go to Mushu it said his wolrd was destroyed by darkness. This is proof that it has a chance of being a world knowing all destroyed worlds move into the ROD. This will be good because the only game with The Land of Dragons in it is KH2.

 

Dumbo: Dumbo's world was plunged into darkness according to Jiminey's journal. I don't know how it will work out but it has a chance.

 

Pinochio: Pinochio already has a world in the KH series. But the world he's in is Monstro which is not considered a real world and isn't Pinochio's home world (we know this because he later moved to Traverse Town). Pinochio's world has been plunged into darkness like many others and is likely to be in BBS vol. 2.

 

Pride Lands: Pride Lands has been destoyed by darkness according to Jiminey's Journal entry on Simba in KH1. Pride Lands should be a fun world and will make it's second apearence in the KH series.

 

The Sword and The Stone: The Sword and the Stone is the homeworld of the magician Merlin (well, it should be). I'm not sure if it was destroyed becuase Merlin resides in Radiant Garden in BBS. If he was in The Sword in the Stone wolrd then it would cause a big plot hole. So I'm not too sure about this wolrd.

 

Robin Hood: Robin Hood has never made an appearence in Kingdom Hearts. And we don't have any proof that his world has been destroyed. Even if this world is in KH:3D, it can still be in BBSV2.

 

The Jungle Book: Jungle Book has never made an appearence in the Kingdom Hearts series. It was almost in two games (KH1 and BBS [it was replaced with Deep Jungle becuase of it's similarity]).Was The Jungle Book removed from BBS so it could be in Birth By Sleep Volume 2? We'll find out when the game comes out.

 

Atlantis: I know there is no proof that this world has been destroyed. But wouldn't it be intruiging to explore Atlantis, fight Heartless, and fight Disney villains?

 

The Black Cauldron: I think Malifecent would really be intrested in destroying a world like the Black Cauldron. The good things about this world are: the main character of the Black Cauldron can be a party member because he has a sword, the world looks real cool to explore and would be big, the movie alraedy has a lot of Action and Adventure, there are plenty of Monsters, Dragons, Goons,and Bad Guys (add that up with Heartless and you have a lot of enimes to fight).

 

Traverse Town: Traverse Town is likely to be in BBSV2 because it is where people go when there world is destroyed. It would make a lot of sense for this world to be in this game.

 

The End of The World: I'm 50/50 with this world being in BBSv2. It was already stated that the End of the World has ties and connections to the Realm of Darkness. But if it did than Aqua should have been able to get there and then see Sora defeat Ansem and everything else. So let Nomure figure out how to put this world in BBSV2.

 

If you have any other suggestions then let me know. If BBSV2 is a PSP game it most certainly won't have this many worlds. I think Hollow Boastion would fit well in this game but it wouldn't make sense.

 

 

I'm sorry if this thread is too dreadfully long I just want you guys to see my opinions (which may or may not be accurate). So what do you think about BBS vol. 2?

[TheApprenticeofKingMickey 3,689]

Most of what you said actually makes a lot of sense. If there is a KH BBSv2, I will be looking extremely forward to it.

[keystrike 145]

I agree with most of this. I'm just curious why you don't think Riku would be a playable character especially considering that the game will extend through kh2 and the king and Riku split paths after khcom. Assuming he is a playable character, the worlds such as beast's castle and Land of the dragons can also be explored in the realm of light. I'm a bit iffy on Dumbo's world and the pride lands, but pinnochio seems likely enough to appear.

 

As much as I would like to see an HD kingdom hearts, this is definitely not the game. This game will naturally be a side game, and while that doesn't mean it will get the same treatment as days and coded, a huge step up as far as technology goes is very unlikely. They also have the already made the worlds for the psp so I think it would be much easier to kind of copy and paste for volume 2.

[Keyblade King 12 486]

Theory: It seems pretty possible. You've definitely explained it well enough to make sense. And I like how balanced the argument actually is. You're not just stating what you think.

Timeline: The time difference between KH1 and BBS is 10 years, is it not? As for BBSVOL2 stretching past Kingdom Hearts 1. I believe that it will, but only really for Aqua, since all the other characters are in the realm of light at this time.

Characters: I believe that King Mickey and Riku will both be appearing in the game alongside Aqua. The reason being, Noruma said that there would be a period of Riku and King Mickey's absense seen in a game. I think this is that game.

Story: It will more or less be something like that I think.

Enimes: Heartless for sure. Somehow I doubt Nobodies though.

System: I think Noruma said that he would never use another system that was being developed for a KH game after KH3D, so I think we can say it will be on just the normal PSP.

Worlds: Just considering the title, BBSvol2. I think we can except the majority of the worlds in BBS to be in this one. Aside from a few, like Land of Departure, Never Land and Hallow Bastion. I think out of all of those new worlds given, Land of Dragons and Pinochio's world sounds the most likely, since Noruma already tried to do a Pinochio world for Days.

[Rob 5,571]

System: I think Noruma said that he would never use another system that was being developed for a KH game after KH3D, so I think we can say it will be on just the normal PSP.

 

Nomura was talking about the battle system for the games after KH3D to be similar to it, not using another system for what a KH game would be on.

[replika13 455]

it is so possible that realm of darkness will be "home based world" in this game

[Razorwind Keyblade 304]

Like many members have voted, they think BBS vol. 2 will be on PSP. It would be unessacary for it to come out on the DS. It would be nice to see a KH game with HD, touch screen on the main screen, and motion sensing gyroscopes (even though KH: 3D may have this).

[keystrike 145]

it is so possible that realm of darkness will be "home based world" in this game

 

In the same way castle oblivion was in com, to some degree yes.

 

Riku's base world would probably be twilight town. Aqua's must be within the realm of darkness somewhere, for the sake of guessing, I have a feeling it will be destiny islands or somehow dark radiant garden. And Mickey's would be in the same places as Aqua and Riku's.

[Razorwind Keyblade 304]

Why would Riku have to be a playable character anyway?

[keystrike 145]

Why would Riku have to be a playable character anyway?

 

He doesn't but neither would mickey; both have a lot of hints towards that they will have their own scenario. As with Mickey, there is still the time of his absence which has yet to be told. Riku's time is surrounded with all sorts of mysteries which a Mickey scenario would be unable to shed light on such as the majority of his time with Diz durring days. Riku also just so happens to be sneaking around land of the dragons in kh2 and to be in the dark realm waiting for Sora with the box with the ice cream and photo. I could go on.

[replika13 455]

In the same way castle oblivion was in com, to some degree yes.

 

Riku's base world would probably be twilight town. Aqua's must be within the realm of darkness somewhere, for the sake of guessing, I have a feeling it will be destiny islands or somehow dark radiant garden. And Mickey's would be in the same places as Aqua and Riku's.

 

yeah...many home based worlds in same game...

only twilight town,destiny islands and realm of darkness arent used yet.

[Razorwind Keyblade 304]

yeah...many home based worlds in same game...

only twilight town,destiny islands and realm of darkness arent used yet.

 

Yeah, I don't understand what you're saying. That doesn't make sense.

[earth_angel 73]

I don't think Mickey will ever be a fully playable character, because of Disney's rules when it comes to their cartoon characters. He might be to Aqua what Donald and Goofy are to Sora, maybe.

[keystrike 145]

I don't think Mickey will ever be a fully playable character, because of Disney's rules when it comes to their cartoon characters. He might be to Aqua what Donald and Goofy are to Sora, maybe.

 

What rules are you specifically referring to? just general strictness? I'm not sure how playing as Mickey would further violate to a great extent what they have already done to his character and this story has already been implied.

[earth_angel 73]

What rules are you specifically referring to? just general strictness? I'm not sure how playing as Mickey would further violate to a great extent what they have already done to his character and this story has already been implied.

 

You're right, I just know (from experience) they're pretty rigid when it comes to their 'classic' cartoon characters, so yeah, general strictness. And of course Mickey isn't the main character of the series as a whole. But who knows, maybe they'll loosen up a bit Would be fun for us if they would.

[axelrulz 26]

i agree with a lot of this stuff. correct me if im wrong, but in the beginning of kingdom hearts 1, Mickey said he had to take care of some business, and the only time we see him is at the end, when he is in the realm of darkness. that might mean that he spent the whole game looking for the Kingdom Key D with Aqua, so BBS volume 2 might end sometime before the ending of kingdom hearts 1, when we see mickey without aqua.

 

what i don't get is that if mickey really does meet aqua in BBS volume 2, and we see him closing the door with sora, then why wasn't aqua with him?

[Snow 1,800]

It is possible. I theorize that Sora also met Aqua, but forgot about it in KH Re CoM when Namine put him in the memory machine. They just probably didn't show him meeting Aqua. So it is probable that Sora could be a playable character as to helping Aqua finding the exit, then going to Castle Oblivion. If not, just an ally. But it does make sense that Riku and Mickey could be in in this game. They probably fought all those heartless with Aqua and helped her find a way out?

[lizzie1238 538]

Where's the option in the poll "None of the above, I don't think bbs v2 is actually a game"?

But if it does turn out to be one, I hope it's on PSP or 3DS. God forbid KH forces me to buy a vita

[Snow 1,800]

@axelrulz Maybe Mickey meets Aqua after he closes the door.

[riku1123 11]

@axelrulz Maybe Mickey meets Aqua after he closes the door.

 

But the whole point so far is that he meets aqua while trying to find the Kingdom Key D

[Obi-wan 411]

Only Aqua and Mickey seem likely in that time Those worlds seem possible but you might have to scratch one or two and PSP sounds good to me and maybe the DS if possible.

[MAtgS 70]

Characters: Aqua, Mickey & Apprentice Xehanort.

Reason: Riku wasn't in RoD very long, especially given the different speed that time flows there. AX's experiments with darkness is still something that needs to be covered. So maybe he & the other apprentices get sucked into RoD when they started the heartless invasion. 1 by 1 the other apprentices fall until AX is the last one standing.

 

System: Wii

Reason: a new console KH is long overdue & if Mickey's playable then Disney may push for this being on the same system as Epic Mickey to captilize on it's success.

[lizzie1238 538]

Characters: Aqua, Mickey & Apprentice Xehanort.

Reason: Riku wasn't in RoD very long, especially given the different speed that time flows there. AX's experiments with darkness is still something that needs to be covered. So maybe he & the other apprentices get sucked into RoD when they started the heartless invasion. 1 by 1 the other apprentices fall until AX is the last one standing.

 

System: Wii

Reason: a new console KH is long overdue & if Mickey's playable then Disney may push for this being on the same system as Epic Mickey to captilize on it's success.

 

I doubt it would be on Wii, but Wii U is a possibility.

[Snow 1,800]

@Matgs Apprentice Xehanort?! O.o (Sorry, I don't know where the apprentice xehanort thing came from.) And sorry for double posting. (Haha 3DS got 0 votes.)

[Snow 1,800]

Characters: Aqua, Mickey & Apprentice Xehanort.

Reason: Riku wasn't in RoD very long, especially given the different speed that time flows there. AX's experiments with darkness is still something that needs to be covered. So maybe he & the other apprentices get sucked into RoD when they started the heartless invasion. 1 by 1 the other apprentices fall until AX is the last one standing.

 

System: Wii

Reason: a new console KH is long overdue & if Mickey's playable then Disney may push for this being on the same system as Epic Mickey to captilize on it's success.

 

It would be unlikely that it would be on the wii, because Epic Mickey wasn't created by Square. Look at this copied and pasted from wikipedia: North American Box Art Developer(s) Junction Point Studios Publisher(s) Disney Interactive Studios

Nintendo (Japan)^[1]Distributor(s) Buena Vista Designer(s) Warren Spector Composer(s) James Dooley Engine Gamebryo Platform(s) Wii Release date(s) ^AU November 25, 2010

^EU November 25, 2010

^UK November 26, 2010

^NA November 30, 2010

^JP August 4, 2011 Genre(s) Platformer, Action-adventure, Comedy,Fantasy Rating(s)

• ACB: PG
• BBFC: U
• CERO: A
• ESRB: E
• PEGI: 7

Media/distribution Wii Optical Disc

Nowhere on there does it say "Square Enix". So I doubt it would be on Wii, because a KH would almost not be playable on the wii.