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So Are You Sure Roxas and Xion... (Some Spoilers)

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So I know in everyone's minds the perfect ending to Kingdom Hearts is everyone (Terra, Aqua, Ventus, Xion, Roxas, maybe Namine) get saved/resurrected and no deaths occur for the good guys. But I mean in my opinion, (although I wish it weren't so, honestly) I don't really think it would make sense to bring back Roxas, Xion or Namine. The real people (Kairi and Sora) were already reformed as a whole and are living, so how would it be possible for Roxas, Xion, and Namine to become their own person? Especially when they've returned to their person. I mean if that's possible, then we might as well bring back Axel, or any other nobody for that matter. Unless one of Sora's new abilities is to create hearts out of thin air, then I apologize for even making this thread.

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have you played the whole game yet?

Eraqus died... and he's a good guy.

 

And... Axel did come back... he's Lea again.

Uh axel did come back and so did a few nobodys

Ansems the wises data practically confirms all these 'lost friends ' will get revived . Thats how, but the exact details of how it will occur will have to wait till KH3 to be revealed . Sora doesnt have to create hearts outta nowhere ..They all grew their own as stated in DDD.

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Uh axel did come back and so did a few nobodys

 

Eraqus died... and he's a good guy.

 

And... Axel did come back... he's Lea again.

 

Yeah I realize they came back.... As their real person. It wasn't Axel anymore, it was Lea, so why would Roxas/Xion and maybe even Namine, be ressurected when their people (Sora and Kairi) are walking around just fine right now?

 

Ansems the wises data practically confirms all these 'lost friends ' will get revived . Thats how, but the exact details of how it will occur will have to wait till KH3 to be revealed . Sora doesnt have to create hearts outta nowhere ..They all grew their own as stated in DDD.

 

Ok I guess that makes sense, I just hope their explanation isn't crappy haha

 

have you played the whole game yet?

 

To be honest, I'm on the last bosses for both stories on Proud mode, and I can't beat the second form of Ansem with Riku to save my life! xD

So I kinda just watched the endings/secret endings and read the secret message.... Horrible fan I know....

Eraqus died... and he's a good guy.

 

And... Axel did come back... he's Lea again.

 

I think they meant Axel, the nobody, not his somebody Lea might as well come back given that the nobodies Roxas and Namine will be coming back instead of being with their original being.

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I think they meant Axel, the nobody, not his somebody Lea might as well come back given that the nobodies Roxas and Namine will be coming back instead of being with their original being.

 

EXACTLY what I meant xD Thank you for understanding ahah.

In the ending of DDD it's basically implied they'll come back, Sora's got a weird power do that I guess

During one cutscene with (an illusion of) Roxas he says basically they're not the same, and that (to Roxas) "You're You!"

Later on in another cutscene between Riku and DiZ, DiZ says that once Sora sees the heart in something, it becomes real.

So basically, since Sora already sees them as their own being and self, they should logically be able to find a way of becoming real in their self.

So I know in everyone's minds the perfect ending to Kingdom Hearts is everyone (Terra, Aqua, Ventus, Xion, Roxas, maybe Namine) get saved/resurrected and no deaths occur for the good guys. But I mean in my opinion, (although I wish it weren't so, honestly) I don't really think it would make sense to bring back Roxas, Xion or Namine. The real people (Kairi and Sora) were already reformed as a whole and are living, so how would it be possible for Roxas, Xion, and Namine to become their own person? Especially when they've returned to their person. I mean if that's possible, then we might as well bring back Axel, or any other nobody for that matter. Unless one of Sora's new abilities is to create hearts out of thin air, then I apologize for even making this thread.

 

If you havent beat DDD don't read this.

 

 

Xemnas says in DDD that anything can grow a heart. Even a puppet.

 

 

The organization's nobodies were killed. That's different than what happend with Roxas and namine. So the nobodies wont come back. But their real selves can.

EXACTLY what I meant xD Thank you for understanding ahah.

 

It gets difficult when beings have two names and people use one to refer to both their somebody and nobody xD i had a long conversation with someone explaining the stuff in DDD (since they didn't have a 3DS to play themselves) and in the end they were just confused .__.

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It gets difficult when beings have two names and people use one to refer to both their somebody and nobody xD i had a long conversation with someone explaining the stuff in DDD (since they didn't have a 3DS to play themselves) and in the end they were just confused .__.

 

Who needs Inception when you have the Kingdom Hearts Series? X)

Who needs Inception when you have the Kingdom Hearts Series? X)

 

Maybe they're just ripping of the movie making a dream in a dream o:?

For anyone who just picked up 3D and hasn't play the previous games. They were properly confused as hell xD

I like Roxas a lot (and also Xion), but how can they both come alive again? Roxas would be confused with Ventus, and don't forget Xion can't be near to Roxas, or she will steal his "life" (I don't know how to explain this)... If they come alive again, then my mind will blow -.-

I like Roxas a lot (and also Xion), but how can they both come alive again? Roxas would be confused with Ventus, and don't forget Xion can't be near to Roxas, or she will steal his "life" (I don't know how to explain this)... If they come alive again, then my mind will blow -.-

 

Because its already been stated they grew their own hearts .Nomura also confirmed Ven and Roxas are two very seperate people . Sora even tells Roxas this in DDD..When you have your own heart you are your own person. Ansem the Wises data will fill in the missing details.

Did you heard Ansem in the end of DDD? There is Hearts everwhere around us <3

Roxas, and Xion... born in them a heart, since Namine existed while Kairi too, probably she has his own heart now.

EXACTLY what I meant xD Thank you for understanding ahah.

 

No...for Axel to come back, Lea would have to lose his heart again, and like hell he's going to let that happen. Roxas and Namine are special cases because of the whole "co-existing with their original selves and lacking their memories" thing.

So I know in everyone's minds the perfect ending to Kingdom Hearts is everyone (Terra, Aqua, Ventus, Xion, Roxas, maybe Namine) get saved/resurrected and no deaths occur for the good guys. But I mean in my opinion, (although I wish it weren't so, honestly) I don't really think it would make sense to bring back Roxas, Xion or Namine. The real people (Kairi and Sora) were already reformed as a whole and are living, so how would it be possible for Roxas, Xion, and Namine to become their own person? Especially when they've returned to their person. I mean if that's possible, then we might as well bring back Axel, or any other nobody for that matter. Unless one of Sora's new abilities is to create hearts out of thin air, then I apologize for even making this thread.

 

Actually I've been thinking a lot about the idea of Roxas coming back and existing at the same time as Sora. I think it is very possible for this to happen. In fact, it already has. Once a person is turned into a heartless, a nobody is also created as well, and so far Sora is the only exception to the rule that the only way to bring back the original person is to destroy their heartless AND nobody. If you think about what happens in KH1, Sora is turned into a heartless, and at that moment Roxas is created, though we did not know it yet. But for some reason, Sora is able to return under with help from Kairi. Roxas was in existence at this point, but we do not know his story from his creation to his induction into the organization in 358/2 Days. And Sora continued to exist throughout Castle Oblivion and under the care of Namine as she restored his memories. He was never gone like the somebodies of other people. It makes me wonder, was Ventus' heart shifted into Roxas and then rejoined with Sora when they came back together. Because Roxas always felt as if he had a heart. Just an interesting concept, and I see it as a complete possibility that Roxas could have grown his own heart during his time during 358/2 Days, as well as Xion. So Sora could potentially have 4 hearts inside of him. We know for sure he has 2, but there could quite possibly be one for Roxas and one for Xion as well.

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