okay so this is just a theory I've been thinking about for quite sometime now so I thought I let you know why I think Terra is the guardian and then you people can add on to it. my first thought on this was at the end of birth by sleep when Terranort tried to remove Terra from his heart with his keyblade but instead of that happening the guardian appeared instead. Now if Terra's heart had been removed we would have seen it like we did when Xehanort plunged the keyblade into himself and when xehanort plunged his keyblade into Braig at the beginning of Dream Drop Distance. instead of this the guardian created a portal of darkness that send the amnesia Xehanort into darkness. My second thought was after the battle with Ansem the seeker of darkness the guardian reaches out to Riku as if it was Terra reaching out to him and the keyblade that Terra gave him before Riku said "strength, to protect what matters most" which is what Terra said in birth by sleep. I am still looking through the other games to see if I can find any more on this and if any of you notice anything about this and see anything that i haven't seen do let me know

Edited October 25, 201212 yr by Damien1000

I always thought that too... but there was always some doubt to that

I always thought that too... but there was always some doubt to that

 

what was your doubt on this

I doubt it because if you remember Terra and The Gaurdian both were involved in that duel limit during Aqua's fight with Terranort.

wheres flaming lea? she seems to know all the answers

I actually thought that Terra was the Guardian as well. They hint at it so many times.

I actually thought that Terra was the Guardian as well. They hint at it so many times.

 

yeah but as i've put down i can only see two hints

I sort of thought that mostly after DDD too, the way it seemed to reach out at Riku...and the fact that it mostly seems to travel with Ansem SoD, who most likely carries Xehanort's and Terra's heart inside him.

I doubt it because if you remember Terra and The Gaurdian both were involved in that duel limit during Aqua's fight with Terranort.

 

Exactly ! Aquas dual limit with Terra would be kinda silly if this was true Also the guardian appeared way before MX tried to stab Terra out of the body ...Not just when the body was stabbed .He was present the whole second part of the fight before that event.Why would Terra be the guardian fighting to help MX keep hold of the body when he was trying to get his own body back hence the dual limit with aqua ?

Edited October 25, 201212 yr by Flaming Lea

If anything the guardian is the darkness within Terranort (a being born from his darkness and is not Terra himself) that is restraining Terra's heart. That would explain the duel limit in which Terra and Aqua attempted to use light to expell the guardian. It would also explain why Nomura hinted at there being a part of Terra within Ansem's darkness.

Edited October 25, 201212 yr by devereauxr

If anything the guardian is the darkness within Terra that is restraining Terra's heart. That would explain the duel limit in which Terra and Aqua attempted to use light to expell the guardian. It would also explain why Nomura hinted at there being a part of Terra within Ansem.

 

that's good info you've put ill have to look in to that more

If anything the guardian is the darkness within Terra that is restraining Terra's heart. That would explain the duel limit in which Terra and Aqua attempted to use light to expell the guardian. It would also explain why Nomura hinted at there being a part of Terra within Ansem.

 

Yes bc all of MX's darkness plus any Terra had could prolly make a being like the Guardian ..But its not Terra himself ..

Hm, never thought of that, but sometimes I almost wonder if the guardian could be Vanitas, just biding his time until the right moment.

Hm, never thought of that, but sometimes I almost wonder if the guardian could be Vanitas, just biding his time until the right moment.

 

i think vanitas is back within ventus after there battle in birth by sleep

Yes bc all of MX's darkness plus any Terra had could prolly make a being like the Guardian ..But its not Terra himself ..

 

But... then again, don't forget that this is Nomura storymaking we're talking about. Sora has had both his Heartless (then his body back) and Roxas (also his body) with Ven's body sitting in Castle Oblivion. Who's to say that Terra can't be a shadow creature/potential heartless and still have a body as well?

But... then again, don't forget that this is Nomura storymaking we're talking about. Sora has had both his Heartless (then his body back) and Roxas (also his body) with Ven's body sitting in Castle Oblivion. Who's to say that Terra can't be a shadow creature/potential heartless and still have a body as well?

 

First , what does Vens body sitting in CO have to do with it ?? Secondly when sora was a heartless he was hugged by Kairi (a PoH) and purified and she gave him a human form bc of that .He was still a walking heart till reunited with his body ( aka Roxas) so how is this relevant at all to this situation ? This is a totally different situation and that makes no sense ,,

 

 

But... then again, don't forget that this is Nomura storymaking we're talking about. Sora has had both his Heartless (then his body back) and Roxas (also his body) with Ven's body sitting in Castle Oblivion. Who's to say that Terra can't be a shadow creature/potential heartless and still have a body as well?

 

Number one Sora and Roxas were able to exist at the same time because Kiari purified him as and provided him with a shell like form. Number two Terra never became a heartless he just had his body stolen so the two situations are not even relevant to each other. Ven's body has nothing with anything so what's your point.

i can kind of agree with what you two are saying about how ven has nothing to do with this theory

i can kind of agree with what you two are saying about how ven has nothing to do with this theory

 

Yes but Sora has nothing to do with this theory either . He was a walking heart till he reunited with Roxas and the guardian didnt appear from someone losing their heart so how could that even be Terra especially when he was fighting on the inside to get his body back ?..If he was the guardian why try to stop Aqua from helping him get his body back when he was definitely trying to help Aqua via dual limit .

wheres flaming lea? she seems to know all the answers

 

i see what you mean about flaming lea knowing all of the answers.

 

Yes but Sora has nothing to do with this theory either . He was a walking heart till he reunited with Roxas and the guardian didnt appear from someone losing their heart so how could that even be Terra especially when he was fighting on the inside to get his body back ?..If he was the guardian why try to stop Aqua from helping him get his body back when he was definitely trying to help Aqua via dual limit .

 

thats a pretty good convincing argument there

Number one Sora and Roxas were able to exist at the same time because Kiari purified him as and provided him with a shell like form. Number two Terra never became a heartless he just had his body stolen so the two situations are not even relevant to each other. Ven's body has nothing with anything so what's your point.

 

Haha can't argue with yall's logic either sorry about the confusion with the Ven part. I was particularly thinking about how Roxas is Sora's body, yet Sora does still have a physical form. But also that Ven has his body lying in Castle Oblivion (which looks very similar to Roxas's body). I know it's because of Ven's heart that Roxas looks the way he does but still. I'm just saying that Nomura could always have Terra be the guardian (seeing as we still don't know anything about Terra other than what we've seen in Birth by Sleep really).

 

Eh, I'm not particularly great with words, haha so I'll be quiet now and let yall discuss things. All I still know is, Kingdom Hearts rocks!!!

 

 

Haha can't argue with yall's logic either sorry about the confusion with the Ven part. I was particularly thinking about how Roxas is Sora's body, yet Sora does still have a physical form. But also that Ven has his body lying in Castle Oblivion (which looks very similar to Roxas's body). I know it's because of Ven's heart that Roxas looks the way he does but still. I'm just saying that Nomura could always have Terra be the guardian (seeing as we still don't know anything about Terra other than what we've seen in Birth by Sleep really).

 

Eh, I'm not particularly great with words, haha so I'll be quiet now and let yall discuss things. All I still know is, Kingdom Hearts rocks!!!

 

The gaurdian was born before Xehanort stabbed himself. Also when the guardian first appeared no one had lost their heart so it's implausible to say it's Terra in heartless form.

Edited October 25, 201212 yr by devereauxr

The gaurdian was born before Xehanort stabbed himself. Also when the guardian first appeared no one had lost their heart so it's implausible to say it's Terra in heartless form.

 

Exactly !!

The gaurdian was born before Xehanort stabbed himself. Also when the guardian first appeared no one had lost their heart so it's implausible to say it's Terra in heartless form.

 

kind of see what your saying

The gaurdian was born before Xehanort stabbed himself. Also when the guardian first appeared no one had lost their heart so it's implausible to say it's Terra in heartless form.

 

Ohhhh... I get it now! Haha, it's been a while since I've played Birth by Sleep. Since my brother cracked most of the PSP screen in fact

well that was indeed a fine game but it looks like flaming lea takes it again