So, do you think KH3 has the potential to be a "hot mess"?

 

I tend not to express my opinions on here. I feel attacked sometimes by some people because my opinion does agree. The reason why I left for two years.

My two sense on why, kind of hard to follow

Today I took a hard look at the Kingdom Hearts series and thought," What the f*ck?" I understand the KH has never really had any logic to it. It is what it is like Trig and Pre Calculus.

 

What I thought was that KH series could have stopped after KH2 sort of. Everyone was safe, assumably. However, the part of the part that if you defeat a nobody and its heartless, the orginal person can come back made the series go on. Xehanort had to come back; thus pushing the series forward.

However, what may hold this series back is character development. My AP English teacher told that every character has a purpose in the book or else they would not be written (I was like duh), but what makes the book is plot and character development. Lack of Development = Bad Story.

More like a domino effect.

Let us see the Three Main Characters in the series:

 

 

Sora: THE protagonist; THE poster child; THE golden child; never really does wrong; kind of lazy; sweet; kind; everyone loves him

 

Riku: Sora's best friend; the strong one; the one to go the extra mile;keeps Sora in check; has self doubts but Sora always is there the reassure them; battling darkness; He has the one of the most character development in the series.

 

Kairi: Sora and Riku's best friend, but the series does not really show it IMO. It just says they are friends and you go with it (like Trig and Pre Cal just confuscating). In a sense, she is just there sometimes. Barely any development (problem) and is really forced in the games. Reminded that she exists in the sense of "oh yeah that girl" sometimes or in the sense You moved away from a friend and you would like to see them. I mean when we first see her with a keyblade it is like cool, okay. However, why couldn't they give her the keyblade when Axel comes to kidnapp her? The way that she recieved her keyblade was pathetic. Aqua could had given her the ability to cast magic or something. The fact that they wait to the last to minute to give her development is dangerous and forceful to the plot of the series. People tend to forget her more than Xion or Namine from what I have seen.

I don't tend to make this a Kairi bashing session. People on here tend to think that I hate her. I DON'T. I just think that she is handled very poorly, but I don't she will hurt the game. I am just making a point on the holes that lack of character development can create

 

Edited January 23, 201312 yr by HikariYami

Any game/book has the potential to be a hot mess, obviously including KH3. But, hopefully the writers take time to make KH3 worth the wait.

Well alright you present your point well about Kairi, but i'm pretty sure Kingdom Hearts 3 won't be THAT focused on her. The reason it has the potential to be a hot mess is not just because of Kairi, but because of freakin time travel. Seriously, those two words ruined the series in my opinion.

Well alright you present your point well about Kairi, but i'm pretty sure Kingdom Hearts 3 won't be THAT focused on her. The reason it has the potential to be a hot mess is not just because of Kairi, but because of freakin time travel. Seriously, those two words ruined the series in my opinion.

I was not saying just about Kairi, but it was a small example. I will clarify that.

Yeah, the time travel seems cheesy.

Edited January 23, 201312 yr by HikariYami

Riku's gotten a lot of character development over time. Sora has gotten a good bit as well. I think Kairi will probably have most of hers in KH3. 

It has the potential to be a bad game but I'm 99% sure it won't with how much hype they know there's been for it for so many years.

In terms of gameplay, the series is getting better. Sure there are still a few "press X to win" moments here and there, but with the introduction of flowmotion, deck commands etc. the series has given you more ways to fight. So I'm excited for what the development team will think of next.

 

 

Now with the story, I had no problems with it until DDD. The introduction of time travel threw me for a loop and I still don't completely understand it yet, but we'll see where that goes.

 

 

Personally, I would like the Xehanort saga to end so the series can make a fresh start. A reboot of sorts if you will. Have Sora and co. finding a way to return the true light to the world, or something along those lines.

Edited January 23, 201312 yr by CjmonXIII

Well I can tell you one thing, KH3 is prolly doomed to be panned bc by the time it finally comes out it will be impossible to meet fans expectations after waiting so long to finally play it no matter how great it may end up being ...

Riku's gotten a lot of character development over time. Sora has gotten a good bit as well. I think Kairi will probably have most of hers in KH3. 

It has the potential to be a bad game but I'm 99% sure it won't with how much hype they know there's been for it for so many years.

But there is only so much they can do in character development in one game.I don't she will get much because the way they have presented her throughout the games.

its kinda dificult because versus 13. Versus is that kind of game that wont be an epic win game and a lot of people will get disappointed because that wait was too long. Too much hype from fans and unecessary pressure was put on development team but its their own fault for annouce it 6 years earlier.

 

KH3 is going the same way, i know theres KH games caming every year but me and a lot of people only want the firetrucking KH3 on PS3. It has more chances to be epic than versus to me, since i dont like FF, but even so the hype is too much..

Edited January 23, 201312 yr by Sakuraba Neku

Oh, it definitely has the potential to be a "hot mess", I don't disagree with that at all. There's so much to cover and so much that hasn't been done yet that they're leaving for KH3 that it does very much have the potential to end up a train wreck if not handled properly. While I disagree that character development is strictly needed for a good story because static characters have a place too (one could argue that Sora is EXTREMELY static) it's apparent that most of the characters are supposed to be dynamic or at the very least, well rounded.

 

Out of all the characters Kairi probably is the one to worry about the most since she's the least focused on outside of being a plot device and KH3 is a terrible time to just start worrying about her development. After a decade and seven games, depending on how they go about it, focusing more on her during KH3 could be more detrimental than helpful since there is so much to wrap up. Either her inclusion will be rushed, will push other characters to the side, or her involvement won't be all that much different than in other games, she just happens to be a wielder while she fulfills her usual role.

 

While I understand the want from the fanbase to have her included more and doing more important things rather than being passive, for KH3 I prefer that she take a back seat. Mostly. KH3 is the climax/ending of the Xehanort Saga and the bunk of the character development and characterization should have happened already. At this point I think it would be rushed and if they really want to flesh her out properly, wait for the next saga where they can virtually start over with a new leaf. 

Let me tell you one thing: KH3 better be worth the 7+ years of waiting, or else Nomura will find himself waking up UNDERWATER.

I SAID I WAS SORRY Just kidding again, but I didn't know you felt that way so seriously sorry once more.

 

I dunno too much about the writing and how things should go, but if it's a failure due to sucking or expectations being too high it won't change my opinion on the first 7 games being my favorite games ever.  And it is possible, after all there might be alot of fans who pull out after this saga. I'm going to stay regardless if Kh3 is in fact awful because that means the new saga won't have any shoes to fill and can stand on it's own just like the first Kingdom Hearts.

maybe but seeing that they're taking time to make it, probably not 

Yes. Yes it does have that potential. And it scares the hell out of me that the series will end on anything less then a high note.