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It's ridiculous that kingdom hearts is still PS3 only

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yeah i know, brought up before, but its something i just can't stand now more than ever.

 

yeah kingdom hearts started out on PS2 but that was back when PS2 was king of home consoles and widely something that people liked. and since kingdom hearts 2's release all the other consoles are on a lot more of a level playing field, especially with a lot of problems the PS3 has and square still wants it to stay Play station only on consoles even though they have used nintendo handhelds for most of their handheld games.

 

yeah maybe there are some limiting factors from it becoming completely multi-platform. I won't try and say the xbox is perfect or as good graphics wise as PS3 and i wont fight for a release on it. but what about the Wii U? graphics wise its pretty much on par with everything and the discs for it are 25GB, and its not like KH3 will probobly take a big graphical leap whenever it does come out with what we've seen of 1.5 so it wouldnt really be a problem if it came out on Wii U and probobly at that point PS4. but yeah maybe they dont want to take any risks if Wii U falls short in some departments

 

but you know what really ticks me off? why it's not on PC. PC is above the current generation of consoles graphics wise, and i doubt many people wouldn't have powerfull enough graphics cards considering this game is PS2/3DS level graphics. its not like its going to be a storage problem, and it's not like there would be a confusion problem since 1.5 is the beggining of the franchise. Even Namaco has finally brought the Ace combat series onto PC which has been primarily console for years. It's certainly not a lack of PC capable developers since they have the FF14 team, and it wouldnt be taking up their time like making the game from scratch on PC would, all the assets are already there. and it certainly isnt a distribution problem, they can publish games on PC, their entire catalog of games they have published on steam is having a 4 day long sale, and final fantasy 11 is on there. even if they didnt want to use steam they have used their own means to distribute 7 on PC.

 

I just find it ridiculous how closed they are making Kingdom hearts when they are a third party developer. theres no reason not to put it on PC at least, at most it should be on PC and Wii U.

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PS3 has better graphics, KH on the wii U? I can't see that happening

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From what I have heard Xbox isn't very popular in Japan.

but nintendo systems are. the 3DS in japan outsolde the PS3 in lifetime sales (tells you something PS3 fanboys now dosent it?) and i have never in the OP fought for an xbox release

PS3 has better graphics, KH on the wii U? I can't see that happening

graphics....being an issue....for a game that uses 3DS level graphics.

 

and i've already pointed this out in the OP. read the whole thing before making assumptions

I thought they tried to make Days so that the controls would feel like the first titles, and so switching to pc might be too much of a change. Then again, I dunno too much about gamepads or whatever.

The Wii U is quite expensive.

Yes, because getting a Wii U for $300 is so much more expensive then getting a PS3 for $300.

 

If you think the Wii U is expensive, think back to getting a PS3 back at launch. Only reason why I don't regret my $599 US Dollar purchase is because it can upscale PS1/PS2 games. Heck, even the Xbox 360 too; it was just as much as the Wii U. (sorry if my memory is bad in case I'm wrong)

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Yes, because getting a Wii U for $300 is so much more expensive then getting a PS3 for $300.

 

If you think the Wii U is expensive, think back to getting a PS3 back at launch. Only reason why I don't regret my $599 US Dollar purchase is because it can upscale PS1/PS2 games. Heck, even the Xbox 360 too; it was just as much as the Wii U. (sorry if my memory is bad in case I'm wrong)

 

Basing the prices on a popular game chain store for both consoles, a brand new PS3 is £70 ($110) cheaper than a new Wii U.  As well as that there's the fact it's life cycles a hell of a lot longer, meaning there's more viable options to buy a used one, typically saving £100+.  

 

Considering the PS3 has been out for longer it is more likely for someone to have acquired it by now, meaning a game brought out on it is unlikely to require "I need to buy this console to play this game", with the Wii U, not everyone has the money for it or would prefer to wait til it's down in price (bargainers) before making such a high purchase so it is far more likely for the majority of people to "have to buy this console to play this game" if KH is brought out on it, which'll just infuriate fans already annoyed with the constant console swapping, bringing it out on a brand new expensive console only a select number of people are likely to have, over the most popular home console in Japan, relatively cheap and most likely already owned PS3 would not be a wise marketing move.  

but nintendo systems are. the 3DS in japan outsolde the PS3 in lifetime sales (tells you something PS3 fanboys now dosent it?) and i have never in the OP fought for an xbox release

Don't get upset. I was just saying. Nintendo and PS3 are much popular in Japan. microsoft = Xbox   Xbox = microsoft. Its not ever going to PC ever. and if you want to play it on PC then play it on emulators.

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Don't get upset. I was just saying. Nintendo and PS3 are much popular in Japan. microsoft = Xbox   Xbox = microsoft. Its not ever going to PC ever. and if you want to play it on PC then play it on emulators.

your looking at that way too literally. xbox dosent = a PC. xbox might not be popular but that dosent mean PCs arnt popular, last time i checked they have 2 MMOs on PC and a 4 day long sale dedicated to square enix games published on PC on steam. xbox popularity dosent mean a damn thing about PCs

 

also. im not fighting for an xbox release but since you people keep bringing up xbox popularity in japan, when the hell has that EVER stopped another japanese developer from publishing on xbox? SEGA, Capcom, NAMCO and tons of other developers/publishers will put games on the 360 even though its not popular in japan. now shutup about xbox. i didn't bring it up you people did and your using an empty argument.

your looking at that way too literally. xbox dosent = a PC. xbox might not be popular but that dosent mean PCs arnt popular, last time i checked they have 2 MMOs on PC and a 4 day long sale dedicated to square enix games published on PC on steam. xbox popularity dosent mean a damn thing about PCs

 

also. im not fighting for an xbox release but since you people keep bringing up xbox popularity in japan, when the hell has that EVER stopped another japanese developer from publishing on xbox? SEGA, Capcom, NAMCO and tons of other developers/publishers will put games on the 360 even though its not popular in japan. now shutup about xbox. i didn't bring it up you people did and your using an empty argument.

 

Microsoft = PC. Maybe its something about microsoft they dont care for that much I really dont know. and dude get over yourself. It's not gonna happen. As much as I and most people would like it to be on it, it wont. My original comment wasn't even to you. It was to the poeple talking about. So stop complaining and play the games on PCSX2, Desemume, VBA, and JPCSP in higher quality than any HD collection would ever be. and dont worry your pretty little head. It has already been confirmed that there will be 3 more games part of the story before 3 will come out. So there is still a chance it can come to xbox PC or Willu. Hopfully that calmed your butthurt.

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I wouldn't mind KH on Wii U.  Does that make me nobody?

I'm with you. It is not that the game will fail if it released on it since it was developed for the PS3 and to port games over Wii U is quite easy from what I've heard (just look at all the ports the Wii U have).

Oh boo hoo. You've had at least 4-5 years to get a PS3, and in that time it never occurred to you that a KH game would eventually come out on the PS3, a Sony console? Remember the series started out on the PS2, a Sony console, so it would make sense for it to eventually come back to one. ALSO remember, that all the important games have come out on SONY systems, so it would have been wise to think that an important KH game would eventually come out on a SONY console (KHIII on the PS3 possibly or in this case a remaster, although its not exactly important). So it's your own fault for ignoring the obvious signs of a KH game coming to the PS3.  

I'm a girl

I'm sorry o-o What's it then? Dame or Lady?

Basing the prices on a popular game chain store for both consoles, a brand new PS3 is £70 ($110) cheaper than a new Wii U.  

LOLWHAT. I don't know what the hell popular game store you're talking about; but I walked into a GameStop store today and saw brand new PS3s for $300. 

Here are some reasons why this particular game will not be showing up to each proposed system outside of PS3:

1. Kingdom Hearts first and foremost a Japanese franchise first, and Xbox as everyone knows bombed hard in Japan so why port it there

2. Wii U is a new console in addition to having the second screen would require more resources to get it running which clearly is not the aim here since they worked on this game for more or less a year

3. Kingdom Hearts is a game best designed to be played with a controller, having attempted to play KH1/2 on an emulator with the keyboard is almost unplayable so I highly doubt a PC release will ever happen in the near future

 

Who knows what the future holds for new installments but I don't think it will be multiplatform anytime soon

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Here are some reasons why this particular game will not be showing up to each proposed system outside of PS3:

1. Kingdom Hearts first and foremost a Japanese franchise first, and Xbox as everyone knows bombed hard in Japan so why port it there

2. Wii U is a new console in addition to having the second screen would require more resources to get it running which clearly is not the aim here since they worked on this game for more or less a year

3. Kingdom Hearts is a game best designed to be played with a controller, having attempted to play KH1/2 on an emulator with the keyboard is almost unplayable so I highly doubt a PC release will ever happen in the near future

 

Who knows what the future holds for new installments but I don't think it will be multiplatform anytime soon

using a PC cant be that bad with controlls. you have hotkeyes for magic and stuff, mouse to look around and hit. WASD to move around, space bar to jump.

 

the controlls cant have been that bad on PC for the emulator unless they were not changeable

using a PC cant be that bad with controlls. you have hotkeyes for magic and stuff, mouse to look around and hit. WASD to move around, space bar to jump.

 

the controlls cant have been that bad on PC for the emulator unless they were not changeable

 

While yes if the game was programmed with PC in mind I have no doubt they could map out decent controls as you described, but I just don't think this series works as well without a controller (albeit that control scheme works brilliantly on other games).  As for the emulator it is that bad since you are trying to program the PS2 controller on a keyboard (I personally just plug in a controller to my pc).  I forgot to mention the other reason I don't think it will happen on PC is due to Square never putting a AAA Japanese franchise there before (FFVII/FFVIII being the exception)

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While yes if the game was programmed with PC in mind I have no doubt they could map out decent controls as you described, but I just don't think this series works as well without a controller (albeit that control scheme works brilliantly on other games).  As for the emulator it is that bad since you are trying to program the PS2 controller on a keyboard (I personally just plug in a controller to my pc).  I forgot to mention the other reason I don't think it will happen on PC is due to Square never putting a AAA Japanese franchise there before (FFVII/FFVIII being the exception)

trust me the controlls would work  fine. maybe not as smooth as a console but not nearly as hard to use as a flight or lego game on PC is without a gamepad.  and im not saying that its likely to get ported to PC, im just saying its ridiculous that its not when there are so many reasons to port to PC, profit included, they would make more money per PC sale than PS3 sale because you dont have to factor in packaging  and a blu-ray disc.

 

im half considering making a PC port petition on FB once an international release is announced(if it isnt were gonna need a petition for one xD)

and thats your opinion. but there are many more people who enjoy playing games on PC, nobody is saying make kingdom hearts PC or wii U only. also no one console is "King" right now

 

PS3 might top xbox graphics wise but it has so many flaws that xbox dosent. no backwards compatability(which is just pathetic), no cross game voice chat, no trophy auto-sync, the amount or system updates and the time it takes to install them. 

 

+1 for the first comment. -1 for the fanboyism. Cross game voice chat is over-rated, unless you're a 12-year old cod player. True, the ps3 has annoying installations but it actually has a good range of games, not just halo and gears of war. They both have strengths and weaknesses and it depends on what type of game you're interested in. 

Um, depending on what PC someone has, it is most likely that the PS3 will be better in terms of graphics, specs, and controls. js.

My NZ $1000 gaming computer can emulate kh2 final mix (60fps) and only use 20% of its cpu. And most modern games only use up 60% of my cpu (full settings, etc). Most peoples computers would easily be able to run any ps3 game if they were purchased within the last two years (and they aren't cheap-skates).

+1 for the first comment. -1 for the fanboyism. Cross game voice chat is over-rated, unless you're a 12-year old cod player. True, the ps3 has annoying installations but it actually has a good range of games, not just halo and gears of war. They both have strengths and weaknesses and it depends on what type of game you're interested in.

Couldn't agree more!

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+1 for the first comment. -1 for the fanboyism. Cross game voice chat is over-rated, unless you're a 12-year old cod player. True, the ps3 has annoying installations but it actually has a good range of games, not just halo and gears of war. They both have strengths and weaknesses and it depends on what type of game you're interested in.

how is pointing out the flaws PS3 has compared to xbox make me a fanboy? i never said xbox is better than PS3, all i said was it has those flaws and that theres not one "rule all" console. also cross game voice chat is essential if your someone who likes to play multiplayer games in a community or just game with freinds. if PS3 had that theres not a doubt in my mind it would be waaay farther ahead of the xbox 360 especially with free multiplayer. although backwards compatability with all the models would have helped, why they stopped doing it after the first model is completely beyond me.

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Well I think it's awesome that KH3 is exclusive for PS3 :P, (and the ones that complains is because they doesn't own a ps3 , lucky me I bought it five years ago) and better don't dare they make it multiconsole

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how is pointing out the flaws PS3 has compared to xbox make me a fanboy? i never said xbox is better than PS3, all i said was it has those flaws and that theres not one "rule all" console. also cross game voice chat is essential if your someone who likes to play multiplayer games in a community or just game with freinds. if PS3 had that theres not a doubt in my mind it would be waaay farther ahead of the xbox 360 especially with free multiplayer. although backwards compatability with all the models would have helped, why they stopped doing it after the first model is completely beyond me.

I was reading between the lines... "just pathetic," "has so many flaws," etc. Exaggerating makes you seem like a fanboy.They probably got rid of backwards compatibility because it didn't give them more money, instead costing them money. There would be no more software sales (stores don't stock ps2 games anymore unless they're used) and the additional hardware costs make in unreasonable. Besides, ps2 emulation is better :PIf I'm playing a game I don't want irrelevant things going on, destroying the atmosphere. You get enough abusive yelling from people in your own match, let alone another game entirely.

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Well I think it's awesome that KH3 is exclusive for PS3 :P, (and the ones that complains is because they doesn't own a ps3 , lucky me I bought it five years ago) and better don't dare they make it multiconsole

now right there is someone being a fanboy and an absolute #$%#

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now right there is someone being a fanboy and an absolute #$%#

 

how sensitive :/
I own all the consoles xbox 360, ps3 and wii (coming soon wii u) cuz I think good games are good it doesn't matter in what console they are,
don't judge me just because the I like the ps3 a bit more  :P
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how sensitive :/
I own all the consoles xbox 360, ps3 and wii (coming soon wii u) cuz I think good games are good it doesn't matter in what console they are,
don't judge me just because the I like the ps3 a bit more   :P

 

i dont judge you because you like the PS3 more. i judge you because you think its right to limit the avalibility of a fantastic game by console when there is no reason to other than blind fanboyism and being a #&$%

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