it can't be sora because Nomura said he will be the main protagonist for the series, so nothing bad will happen to him and he won't die in kh3, it can't be kairi because she's a princess and immune to darkness as well as aqua. so it can be those 3, but i think its going to be Ven/Van. if sora tries to bring ven back and wake him up vanitas will come back as well because ven is still a half person and the other half is darkness and the only reson van was killed ven baicly killed himself. so when they bring back ven, van will be back to and van can't be killed by anyone other than ven and they will have to fight and then boom X-blade, 13th darkness, and they will have yellow eyes.

I think you're right but I'm sure Vexen knows something that the other members don't

 

And I'm still baffled how some people think Ven is essential to Xehanort's plan when in reality he isn't...the experiment in BBS proved to be a failure so why in the hell would Xehanort repeat the same failed experiment again?

 

Exactly especially since Xehanort is known to have back up plan after back up plan using other people as substitutions as needed.What also makes no sense is if all it took was 1vs1, why waste more than a decade plus gathering the 7 lights and 13 darknesses needed if you could just use 1vs1 ? That just doesn't have any logic to it.The original Xblade was broken into 20 pieces -7 light and 13 dark so it only makes sense that you need that many to reforge it .

Edited October 8, 201312 yr by Flaming Lea

Including the past forms of Xehanort, my best guess is Vanitas. But knowing Nomura, that would probably be too predictable.

Edited October 8, 201312 yr by _The Door To Light_

1.- Sora doesn't have Ven's memories since Ven's heart is dormant . Quit making assumptions based on nothing . As for the slides in Deep Jungle that was KAIRI'S HEART responding not Ven's. You are just throwing out assumptions without proving anything really .It's never been confirmed if Xehanort definitely knew.Even If he did he doesn't need Ven to try another attempt at a 1vs 1 recipe . He could use someone else a lot easier .If thats all it took why take 10 plus years to gather 7 lights and 13 darknesses ? Sounds like a total waste of time and makes no sense AT ALL if Xehanort was " lying". Also it is stated that the original Xblade was split into 20 pieces - 7 light and 13 dark and that's why the correct 'recipe' needs that amount .

 

2- Xion looking like Ven to Xigbar still doesn't prove they knew anything since her appearance changed to everyone depending on who saw her .As for DDD, Xigbar was trolling Sora on purpose to get him to fall to darkness. Ven ISNT THE REASON Sora can wield and Nomura has confirmed this over and over . Nomura has also stated the only thing Ven gives Sora is the ability to dual wield . Sora was basically chosen by the keyblade regardless when in the end of KH1 it chose him for good . He now wields his own keyblade and dual wields with Ven's and when Ven's heart returns Sora still wields his own keyblade just like he did without Ven's heart from the end of Kh1 all the way through CoM. He was the only wielder to not receive the keyblade ceremony to get chosen but still ended up chosen anyways when the keyblade  chose to stay with him . This was also confirmed by Nomura . Nomura = canon .

 

3- Vanitas' appearance was explained and confirmed :

 

What about Vanitas?

Nomura: Vanitas is different than Xemnas and Ansem; he doesn’t necessarily have a physical form. He reacted to Ventus within Sora, so that’s how he was visible

 

4- It has been confirmed in game that the bbs method was wrong period . I have read the reports in BBS thanks .And like I said, MX purporsely addressed in game he was wrong so now you are just making wild assumptions with nothing to back it up . I suggest you read the interviews bc you seem to lack a lot of info in your argument .

 

5-  'what is left of you ' is refering to using Sora's body as the last vessel as his heart was being plunged into darkness to never awaken again as stated IN GAME .

 

No he isn't and he can't access all of Sora's memory because Xion died before she can absorb all of Sora's memory

 

Also,Xemnas didn't make the copy of Sora's memories.It was Vexen ....And even if he had access to Sora's memory he will never know where Ventus is because Sora himself doesn't remember Ven and even if he did he won't know that Ven's heart is inside him

 

And no "We will need what left of you" refers to Sora's body...which is why MX TRIED TO POSSESS HIS BODY BEFORE LEA SAVED HIM

 

Xehanort doesn't need Ventus anymore to forge the keyblade....that bratty asshole is useless now.....and trying that method will once again give him an incomplete X-blade like before.

 

Besides,Ven isn't the reason Sora has the Keyblade...he's the reason that Sora can use Dual wielding ....nothing else....Sora can still use the Keyblade even if the heart of that f.ucker escaped from his body

 

a Serious question:Have you played DDD or paid attention to what happened at the last world....because by what I've seen in your post you're missing on a lot of details

 

 

well, believe what you want but when KH3 comes out and i'm right i will make a post saying i'm right and your wrong and then we will see who lacks KH info, fools.

well, believe what you want but when KH3 comes out and i'm right i will make a post saying i'm right and your wrong and then we will see who lacks KH info, fools.

 We state facts and you make wild assumptions not using facts and we are the fools ? How funny but cute .Guess you had nothing intelligent to state back .Thx for proving us right though. You could not address any of our points so who looks the fool ?

well, believe what you want but when KH3 comes out and i'm right i will make a post saying i'm right and your wrong and then we will see who lacks KH info, fools.

Boy oh boy are you full of yourself or what???We are fools??

 

We're not making facts from our asses

 

Everything we said was straight from Nomura's mouth both in the interviews and in the script of the story

 

Nomura's words are canon....PERIOD...make all the assumptions you want,that won't change it.Nomura=Canon

 

You seriously lack even the basic knowledge of the plot elements used in the game and your mind is still stuck in BBS believing Ven is so important and essential that Xehanort can't win without his ass

 

If you don't believe us,go to Khwiki.com......read all of Nomura's interviews that are COVERED IN THIS VERY SITE.....reading is your friend...reading is a sexy looking girl.

 

Then come back and see if your assumptions are canon or not.....you clearly haven't played DDD or read even the reports in that game nor have you read the Nomura interviews

 

If you still insist you're right...fine,keep telling yourself that and don't bother to use the basic skill of searching and reading

As for Vanitas, he was brought to the present without a physical form by Young Xehanort in Kingdom Hearts DDD, but whether or not he returned to his place in time with Young Xehanort, Ansem, Seeker of Darkness and Xemnas has not been confirmed. He could easily become one of Master Xehanort's vessels.

He was not brought back to the present. His one cameo in KH 3D with YX in the Hunchback world wasn't him in the flesh. Its just because when YX mentioned that his heart is a prison, he was referring to all the people connected to him, mainly Ventus, and that made Vanitas resonate in Sora's heart, causing him to briefly appear to Sora. He did NOT BRING HIM BACK.

Just because he's the 13th Darkness doesn't mean he'll join Organization XIII

 

Also,Xehanort clearly stated that Sora is indeed the 13th Darkness....otherwise why would the Organization go out of it's way to sabotage the Mastery test and lure Sora to TWTNW????

 

It could mean that Sora can now use some Dark powers that Riku was able to use.....that would cool especially in Gameplay

 

If something would happen to Sora there is always the good ol Deus ex Machina plot element to save the day

Sora isn't confirmed to be the 13th darkness. He was the one that Xehanort chose to be the 13th darkness. Remember that originally Roxas was going to be chosen, then they tried Riku and eventually chose Sora. Even Xehanort knows that eventually the 13 darknesses and 7 lights will come together regardless of who they are. Im pretty sure that Sora isn't confirmed to be a darkness ATM.

Sora isn't confirmed to be the 13th darkness. He was the one that Xehanort chose to be the 13th darkness. Remember that originally Roxas was going to be chosen, then they tried Riku and eventually chose Sora. Even Xehanort knows that eventually the 13 darknesses and 7 lights will come together regardless of who they are. Im pretty sure that Sora isn't confirmed to be a darkness ATM.

Anyone can be the 13th darkness but Xehanort is currently setting his eyes on Sora

Well Xehanort tried Sora and failed . He could try again or he could use someone else . I'm not even opposed to him trying to go after Ven as a darkness, just not for the reason the OP is saying  ( using ven to forge the xblade ala BBS 1vs1 when that method is proven false) It would just be harder to acquire Ven since Aqua is the only one able to find in CO.

Well Xehanort tried Sora and failed . He could try again or he could use someone else . I'm not even opposed to him trying to go after Ven as a darkness, just not for the reason the OP is saying  ( using ven to forge the xblade ala BBS 1vs1 when that method is proven false) It would just be harder to acquire Ven since Aqua is the only one able to find in CO.

Unless somehow the 13 darknesses went into the ROD, found Aqua and took a sample of her memories(like Xemnas took Sora's memories in KH1FM) threatened Even to force him to make a clone of her so they could find Ventus before Sora and co.

Unless somehow the 13 darknesses went into the ROD, found Aqua and took a sample of her memories(like Xemnas took Sora's memories in KH1FM) threatened Even to force him to make a clone of her so they could find Ventus before Sora and co.

As for Even they can turn him into a Heartless again and recruit Vexen which is easier than threatening someone who may or may not cooperate 

Unless somehow the 13 darknesses went into the ROD, found Aqua and took a sample of her memories(like Xemnas took Sora's memories in KH1FM) threatened Even to force him to make a clone of her so they could find Ventus before Sora and co.

Well at that rate they could just try to use Aqua as a darkness if they go to that much trouble  But anything is possible with Nomura.

Edited October 8, 201312 yr by Flaming Lea

As for Even they can turn him into a Heartless again and recruit Vexen which is easier than threatening someone who may or may not cooperate 

^ That too. But i wouldnt be so sure that Vexen would join again, since he would have his memories from his time as a human and realize that they removed his heart to forcefully get him to join. So he may not cooperate anyway.

 

Well at that rate they could just try to use Aqua as a darkness if they go to that much trouble  But anything is possible with Nomura.

^ Thats true, they could. They could take Aqua's memories, make her a darkness, then force Even to make an Aqua clone so she can guide them to Ventus and they can make him a darkness aswell. Its win win situation.

^ That too. But i wouldnt be so sure that Vexen would join again, since he would have his memories from his time as a human and realize that they removed his heart to forcefully get him to join. So he may not cooperate anyway.

 

^ Thats true, they could. They could take Aqua's memories, make her a darkness, then force Even to make an Aqua clone so she can guide them to Ventus and they can make him a darkness aswell. Its win win situation.

 

Well that would make 14 Norts, but hey, a spare can never hurt   ( actually 15 if you want to make the clone a nort too). Here a Nort , there a Nort , everywhere a Nort Nort ! 

Edited October 8, 201312 yr by Flaming Lea

Well that would make 14 Norts, but hey, a spare can never hurt   ( actually 15 if you want to make the clone a nort too). Here a Nort , there a Nort , everywhere a Nort Nort ! 

Exactly. If one of there darknesss get incapacitated they have spare norts to help them out.

What about the other six Darkneses we don't know the identity of lol...

Edited October 9, 201312 yr by Dave

 

 

OMG That's priceless

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 We state facts and you make wild assumptions not using facts and we are the fools ? How funny but cute .Guess you had nothing intelligent to state back .Thx for proving us right though. You could not address any of our points so who looks the fool ?

 

Boy oh boy are you full of yourself or what???We are fools??

 

We're not making facts from our asses

 

Everything we said was straight from Nomura's mouth both in the interviews and in the script of the story

 

Nomura's words are canon....PERIOD...make all the assumptions you want,that won't change it.Nomura=Canon

 

You seriously lack even the basic knowledge of the plot elements used in the game and your mind is still stuck in BBS believing Ven is so important and essential that Xehanort can't win without his ass

 

If you don't believe us,go to Khwiki.com......read all of Nomura's interviews that are COVERED IN THIS VERY SITE.....reading is your friend...reading is a sexy looking girl.

 

Then come back and see if your assumptions are canon or not.....you clearly haven't played DDD or read even the reports in that game nor have you read the Nomura interviews

 

If you still insist you're right...fine,keep telling yourself that and don't bother to use the basic skill of searching and reading

 

look, lets just say it a draw or something and call it. we both have good points and we still don't know who the 13th darkness is so lets stop. maybe we got off on the wrong foot so lets be friends, but say some else about my KH knowledge and it on. so lets stop before it gets to a bad point.

He was not brought back to the present. His one cameo in KH 3D with YX in the Hunchback world wasn't him in the flesh. Its just because when YX mentioned that his heart is a prison, he was referring to all the people connected to him, mainly Ventus, and that made Vanitas resonate in Sora's heart, causing him to briefly appear to Sora. He did NOT BRING HIM BACK.

Yes he did. The people at the "Info Block" said so, and they know everything about the series.

look, lets just say it a draw or something and call it. we both have good points and we still don't know who the 13th darkness is so lets stop. maybe we got off on the wrong foot so lets be friends, but say some else about my KH knowledge and it on. so lets stop before it gets to a bad point.

 

We can stop here but I will certainly not call it a draw when your 'points' go against canon facts stated both by Nomura and in game stated facts and you haven't addessed any of our points we explained. I also am not trying to insult you by saying you should read the archived interviews here and either play DDD or watch the cutscenes again bc you are missing a lot of key info and have stated a lot of wrong "facts". I never stated that I knew who the 13th is , nor do i think it's impossible to be Ven . I'm just pointing out it's not for the reasoning you provided-  to forge the xblade in a 1 vs 1 battle like in BBS. 

We can stop here but I will certainly not call it a draw when your 'points' go against canon facts stated both by Nomura and in game stated facts and you haven't addessed any of our points we explained. I also am not trying to insult you by saying you should read the archived interviews here and either play DDD or watch the cutscenes again bc you are missing a lot of key info and have stated a lot of wrong "facts". I never stated that I knew who the 13th is , nor do i think it's impossible to be Ven . I'm just pointing out it's not for the reasoning you provided-  to forge the xblade in a 1 vs 1 battle like in BBS. 

Exactly said what I was going to say buddy ^_^

Yes he did. The people at the "Info Block" said so, and they know everything about the series.

 

He's referring to this so take it for whatever it is  :

 

What about Vanitas?

Nomura: Vanitas is different than Xemnas and Ansem; he doesn’t necessarily have a physical form. He reacted to Ventus within Sora, so that’s how he was visible

 

 

Although this is not to say that Vanitas couldn't be back and a darkness in KH3

We can stop here but I will certainly not call it a draw when your 'points' go against canon facts stated both by Nomura and in game stated facts and you haven't addessed any of our points we explained. I also am not trying to insult you by saying you should read the archived interviews here and either play DDD or watch the cutscenes again bc you are missing a lot of key info and have stated a lot of wrong "facts". I never stated that I knew who the 13th is , nor do i think it's impossible to be Ven . I'm just pointing out it's not for the reasoning you provided-  to forge the xblade in a 1 vs 1 battle like in BBS.

 

"We can stop here but I will certainly not call it a draw when your..." your not stoping. "your 'points' go against canon facts stated both by Nomura and in game stated facts and you haven't addessed any of our points we explained" i'm trying to stop, because i can provie it. "I also am not trying to insult you by saying you should read the archived interviews here and either play DDD or watch the cutscenes again bc you are missing a lot of key info and have stated a lot of wrong "facts"" by saying this you are . one more comment like this before it happens