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I have been thinking for a while.... Ventus's's's heart went to sora when he lost his heart, and kairi did the same thing(if im not mistaken). When sora unlocked their hearts and... "died", kairi's heart returned to her. Why didn't the same thing happen to ventus? Also, when sora released his heart, a nobody of him and kairi appeared (roxas/namine) but where is kairis and ventus's heartless? Also if roxas is ventus's nobody, where is sora's? Or if roxas is soras nobody where is ventus? Kairi got one why not ventus?

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I hope i get this right but from what i understand, Ventus' heart was still healing and latched on to Sora's heart in order to repair itself so even from being turned into a heartless it wouldnt split from Sora untill it's ready. Almost like it's locked up within Sora's own heart. Kairi has no darkness in here so thats why no heartless is created and why Namine is considered a special nobody while the heartless Sora i think was a mixture of Sora/Ventus the same way Roxas is a mixture of them both.

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Oooooooooooooooh best explaination! Thank you!

I have been thinking for a while.... Ventus's's's heart went to sora when he lost his heart, and kairi did the same thing(if im not mistaken). When sora unlocked their hearts and... "died", kairi's heart returned to her. Why didn't the same thing happen to ventus? Also, when sora released his heart, a nobody of him and kairi appeared (roxas/namine) but where is kairis and ventus's heartless? Also if roxas is ventus's nobody, where is sora's? Or if roxas is soras nobody where is ventus? Kairi got one why not ventus?

For starters Ven's heart was forcibly ejected from his body upon the shattering of the X-Blade in BBS. His heart was shattered due to Master Xehanort splitting it. In destroying Vanitas, Ven's heart returned to that fragile state it was in the beginning of the game. I must stress this point Roxas is Sora's Nobody not Ven's. Ven did not produce a Heartless and therefore no Nobody was produced.As for when Sora released his and Kairi's heart Ven's heart stayed with Sora's body and was reborn with his Nobody Roxas which is why Roxas looks like Ventus. Kairi as a Princess of Heart has a heart of pure light and therefore cannot produce  Heartless.

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Idk..i think Roxas is half and half technically. Like how Xemnas is from the fusion of Xehanort and Terra..they didnt split into 2 heartless and 2 nobody. It isnt the same way but their hearts were locked together so a split wouldnt drag them apart.

Because the only way he can see is Aqua is in his dreams.

I think that when Sora became a heartless, Ventus' heart attached to Sora's nobody, Roxas. Then when Roxas went back to Sora, Ventus' heart came back in. This would explain why Roxas looks like Ventus, not Sora. Considering all the other powerful nobodies (except Namine) look just like their Organization counterparts. 

Edited by Nathan Hatton

Ven's heart was still to weak, so it stayed in Sora's body (Roxas) Roxas, like Namine is the Nobody of two people, in this case Sora and Ven.  Sora's Heartless is just Sora's Heartless because Kairi is a PoH and therefore has no darkness and is incapable of creating a Heartless, Ven's hear never left Sora's body and so was not overtaken by whatever darkness, if any, may have been restored to it at that time.

 

So to summarize

1. Roxas: The Nobody of Sora and Ventus, created when Ven's heart left Sora's body and carrier of Ven's heart which shaped the vessel and thus looks like him.2. Namine: The Nobody of Sora and Kairi created when Kairi's heart left Sora's body and returned to her. Sora's body used to create the vessel and the vessel itself shaped by Kari's heart, which is why she's female.

3. Sora's Heartless: The darkness within Sora's heart. Created when Sora's heart left his body and was swallowed by it's own darkness. yet retained it's memories and intelligence.

 

Bonus

1. Xemans: The nobody of Terra and Master Xehanort. created when Terra's and Master Xehanort hearts left Terra's body

2, Ansem SoD/ Xehanort's Heartless: The darkness in Master Xehanort's heart, created when apprentice Xehanort removed his heart in order to gain the ability to time travel. The heart was then consumed by it's own darkness yet retained it's memories and intelligence.

3. Xehanort's Guardian, possibly Terra's Heartless, the darkness in Terra's heart still enslaved by Xehanort. Unconfirmed. Created when Master Xehanort used his heart to take over Terra's body.

4. It is also possible (though less likely) that 2 and 3 are reversed as, if one looks closely, Xehanort's Guardian bears a resemblance to Master Xehanort just as Ansem SoD/Xehanort's Heartless looks somewhat like Terra. Also Xehanort's Gaurdian first appeared after Master Xehanort possessed Terra but before Apprentice Xehanort became a Heartless.

Edited by Isamu_Kuno

When Sora created Roxas, Ventus' heart went with Roxas. Which is why Roxas looks like Ventus and he could cry. Nobodies shouldn't have emotions, but Ven's heart gave Roxas that privilege.

For starters Ven's heart was forcibly ejected from his body upon the shattering of the X-Blade in BBS. His heart was shattered due to Master Xehanort splitting it. In destroying Vanitas, Ven's heart returned to that fragile state it was in the beginning of the game. I must stress this point Roxas is Sora's Nobody not Ven's. Ven did not produce a Heartless and therefore no Nobody was produced.As for when Sora released his and Kairi's heart Ven's heart stayed with Sora's body and was reborn with his Nobody Roxas which is why Roxas looks like Ventus. Kairi as a Princess of Heart has a heart of pure light and therefore cannot produce  Heartless.

Thank you for explaining it. Man I have to explain that to so many people on YouTube who keeps getting confused with Roxas being Ventus's nobody and their connections to Sora. It's very frustrating!
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I have been thinking for a while.... Ventus's's's heart went to sora when he lost his heart, and kairi did the same thing(if im not mistaken). When sora unlocked their hearts and... "died", kairi's heart returned to her. Why didn't the same thing happen to ventus? Also, when sora released his heart, a nobody of him and kairi appeared (roxas/namine) but where is kairis and ventus's heartless? Also if roxas is ventus's nobody, where is sora's? Or if roxas is soras nobody where is ventus? Kairi got one why not ventus?

When Sora turned into a Heartless, Ventus' heart went inside Roxas' body and stayed there till Roxas rejoined with Sora. So Ventus' heart is still inside Sora waiting to be freed in some-way-we-don't know-about.

Pretty much what's already been said.I think Ventus is going to die in KH3, though xD

One does not simply wake up in 2 seconds.

Because reasons that only Nomura can explain and understand

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