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[Neptune Vasilias 340]

So what's the difference between a Keyblade from the Realm Of Light and Darkness other than origin? Also can you have Keyblades from other Realms like the Realm Of Sleep? Opinions and theories are greatly appreciated  :smile:

[Joker 1,560]

So what's the difference between a Keyblade from the Realm Of Light and Darkness other than origin? Also can you have Keyblades from other Realms like the Realm Of Sleep? Opinions and theories are greatly appreciated  :smile:

well i think Kingdom Key D is a ROD key. its just the origin at least thats what i think

[Caity 3,946]

"Keyblades have 2 different constitutions, either from the Light side or the Dark side. This is merely the exterior key, the inner key can act from either side and its abilities won't change. There is no clear division between good and evil." - Nomura

 

They're basically the same, just from different realms.  What realm it's from doesn't reflect the intentions of the character.  Mickey had to find a key that would be the opposite of Sora's to close the door, so earned the RoD's keyblade, pretty much everyone else has a keyblade from the Realm of Light, and then there's the Keyblade of Hearts created from 7 pure hearts of light and used to open Kingdom Hearts.  

[Kaweebo 3,617]

Also can you have Keyblades from other Realms like the Realm Of Sleep?

That's a tricky question since I believe the Realm of Sleep was created due to the events of KHI where all the world reverteds (or were supposed to revert in this case) back to their original, not-destroyed forms. If a new realm is created through circumstance, would a Keyblade arise from that? I dunno. 

Edited June 17, 2014 by Kaweebo

[Isamu Kuno 2,512]

"This is merely the exterior key, the inner key can act from either side and its abilities won't change." 

 

That's a tricky question since I believe the Realm of Sleep was created due to the events of KHI where all the world reverteds (or were supposed to revert in this case) back to their original, not-destroyed forms. If a new realm is created through circumstance, would a Keyblade arise from that? I dunno. 

"Exterior key"? As opposed to the "Inner key"? so Keychains? If that's the case then that would make the 3D Keyblades, "Keyblades of Sleep" wouldn't it? And it would also explain why we never see Mickey using Star Seeker and Kingdom Key D at the same time.

Edited June 18, 2014 by Isamu_Kuno

[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

"Exterior key"? As opposed to the "Inner key"? so Keychains? If that's the case then that would make the 3D Keyblades, "Keyblades of Sleep" wouldn't it? And it would also explain why we never see Mickey using Star Seeker and Kingdom Key D at the same time.

The exterior key refers to what realm the keyblade come from whether it be the Realm of Light or the Realm the Darkness the inner key refers to the power drawn from the wielder aka keychains. What Nomura means is the wielders power can act from either side without changing its properties as a Realm of Light or Realm of Darkness keyblade.Even Xehanort states there are only three families of keyblades.There are three families of Keyblades: the Keyblades of light we wield, Keyblades of darkness, and Keyblades of heart.The first and second families differ only in origin; Keyblades of darkness are found in the realm of darkness, and are counterparts to the Keyblades we use in the realm of light.The third type of key, the Keyblade of heart, came into existence when the World was reorganized after the Keyblade War. Without this key, Kingdom Hearts is forever beyond a person's reach. Only by gathering seven hearts of pure light--hearts completely devoid of darkness--may one forge a Keyblade of heart and open the door to Kingdom Hearts.And, as stated before, opening this door arguably gives that person control over all worlds and all people. Edited June 18, 2014 by devereauxr

[Isamu Kuno 2,512]

The exterior key refers to what realm the keyblade come from whether it be the Realm of Light or the Realm the Darkness the inner key refers to the power drawn from the wielder aka keychains. What Nomura means is the wielders power can act from either side without changing its properties as a Realm of Light or Realm of Darkness keyblade.Even Xehanort states there are only three families of keyblades.There are three families of Keyblades: the Keyblades of light we wield, Keyblades of darkness, and Keyblades of heart.The first and second families differ only in origin; Keyblades of darkness are found in the realm of darkness, and are counterparts to the Keyblades we use in the realm of light.The third type of key, the Keyblade of heart, came into existence when the World was reorganized after the Keyblade War. Without this key, Kingdom Hearts is forever beyond a person's reach. Only by gathering seven hearts of pure light--hearts completely devoid of darkness--may one forge a Keyblade of heart and open the door to Kingdom Hearts.And, as stated before, opening this door arguably gives that person control over all worlds and all people.

True, but that was in BbS, before the realm of Sleep came into existence.

Edited June 18, 2014 by Isamu_Kuno

[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

True, but that was in BbS, before the realm of Sleep came into existence.

Unless Nomura changes it then the fact still remains especially since that original interview takes place before DDD which is what you've based your logic on to begin with. Like I said keychains are a manifestations of the power drawn from the wielder tightly linked to the individuals memories and experiences which give them form. It makes sense that Sora and Riku would manifest those keychains while in the Realm of Sleep because that's what they were experiencing. It doesn't make sense for a keychain (an extension of the wielders power) to change what realm that keyblade came from. Edited June 19, 2014 by devereauxr

[Isamu Kuno 2,512]

Unless Nomura changes it then the fact still remains especially since that original interview takes place before DDD to which is what your basing your logic on. Like I said keychains are a manifestations of the power drawn from the wielder tightly linked to the individuals memories and experiences which give them form. It makes sense that Sora and Riku would manifest those keychains while in the Realm of Sleep because that's what they were experiencing. It doesn't make sense for a keychain (an extension of the wielders power) to change what realm that keyblade came from.

But the functions are identical so the change would really only be superficial.

 

I'm really just trying to figure out why Mickey never dual wields if he has two physical Keyblades or how he could even get a second Keyblade if he only carries one heart. 

Edited June 19, 2014 by Isamu_Kuno

[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

But the functions are identical so the change would really only be superficial.

Well the basic functions of all keyblades are superficial but there obviously some differences otherwise Mickey could have sealed Kingdom Hearts with two Keyblades from the Realm of Light something he had immediate access to. It's the keyblades inner power changes that are actually superficial as it is merely an extention of the wielders will whether he/she uses it for dark or light it does not changed it's base functions. That's the point Nomura was trying to make the realm it came doesn't determine whether it's good or evil it's down to the purpose the wielder chooses to use it in.

[Isamu Kuno 2,512]

Well the basic functions of all keyblades are superficial but there obviously some differences otherwise Mickey could have sealed Kingdom Hearts with two Keyblades from the Realm of Light something he had immediate access to. It's the keyblades inner power changes that are actually superficial as it is merely an extention of the wielders will whether he/she uses it for dark or light it does not changed it's base functions. That's the point Nomura was trying to make the realm it came doesn't determine whether it's good or evil it's down to the purpose the wielder chooses to use it in.

I know, but how did he get it? He only has one heart. 

Isn't it possible that a Keychain from the RoD, can be attached to a Keyblade from the RoD thereby allowing it to work on doors from that side as long as the RoD Keychain is attached? Though even if that is the case I guess Keychains of Sleep (if there were any) would have to have different ruled because we see Sora and Riku releasing the Sleeping Keyholes with their default RoL Keychains.

Edited June 19, 2014 by Isamu_Kuno

[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

I know, but how did he get it? He only has one heart. Isn't it possible that a Keychain from the RoD, can be attached to a Keyblade from the RoD thereby allowing it to work on doors from that side as long as the RoD Keychain is attached?

We don't know how he got it because that is one of the stories Nomura has mind but hasn't put in game. Like I said a keychain is literally power drawn from the wielder's memories and experiences which gives the base key blade form and power it doesn't change it's base functions that come from it being from the RoD or the RoL.

[Isamu Kuno 2,512]

We don't know how he got it because that is one of the stories Nomura has mind but hasn't put in game. Like I said a keychain is literally power drawn from the wielder's memories and experiences which gives the base key blade form and power it doesn't change it's base functions that come from it being from the RoD or the RoL.

And sadly now we'll never know because I doubt BbS v2 will come out after the Dark Seeker Chronicle is completed.

[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

And sadly now we'll never know because I doubt BbS v2 will come out after the Dark Seeker Chronicle is completed.

I'm hoping they loop it in 2.5 via recoded scenes.

[Marco Basile 47]

So what's the difference between a Keyblade from the Realm Of Light and Darkness other than origin? Also can you have Keyblades from other Realms like the Realm Of Sleep? Opinions and theories are greatly appreciated  :smile:

The difference is that the Keyblade of Light is made of pure light, and the Keyblade of Darkness is made of pure Darkness. So you can use the power of light with the Keyblade of Light (like Kingdom Key) or the power of Darkness with the Keyblade of Darkness (like Xehanort's Keyblade). There's not so much differences. And no, I don't think there are even Keyblades of Sleep

[Kodakliv 558]

And sadly now we'll never know because I doubt BbS v2 will come out after the Dark Seeker Chronicle is completed.

you never know, Nomura said he had a story there and he might use it for a future KH game.

[Isamu Kuno 2,512]

The difference is that the Keyblade of Light is made of pure light, and the Keyblade of Darkness is made of pure Darkness. So you can use the power of light with the Keyblade of Light (like Kingdom Key) or the power of Darkness with the Keyblade of Darkness (like Xehanort's Keyblade). There's not so much differences. And no, I don't think there are even Keyblades of Sleep

We don't know what kind of Keyblade Xehanort has. The only confirmed Keyblade of Darkness is the Kingdom Key D

[Jake 1,488]

We don't know what kind of Keyblade Xehanort has. The only confirmed Keyblade of Darkness is the Kingdom Key D

Kingdom Key D? I don't remember that keyblade specifically.

[Isamu Kuno 2,512]

Kingdom Key D? I don't remember that keyblade specifically.

Mickey's Keyblade at the end of KH and throughout KH  II. He also sometimes used it in Re:Coded

[Jake 1,488]

Mickey's Keyblade at the end of KH and throughout KH  II. He also sometimes used it in Re:Coded

I thought that was a keyblade of light, o_o

[Marco Basile 47]

We don't know what kind of Keyblade Xehanort has. The only confirmed Keyblade of Darkness is the Kingdom Key D

I thought they had confirmed that Xehanort's Keyblade was made of Darkness... My bad

[Aru Akise 2,540]

"Keyblades have 2 different constitutions, either from the Light side or the Dark side. This is merely the exterior key, the inner key can act from either side and its abilities won't change. There is no clear division between good and evil." - Nomura

 

They're basically the same, just from different realms.  What realm it's from doesn't reflect the intentions of the character.  Mickey had to find a key that would be the opposite of Sora's to close the door, so earned the RoD's keyblade, pretty much everyone else has a keyblade from the Realm of Light, and then there's the Keyblade of Hearts created from 7 pure hearts of light and used to open Kingdom Hearts.  

 

Now here is something that is bugging me for quite a while. How the heck did Mickey go into de RoD in the first place? We were hoping for it to be explained on BbSII or smething, but I don't think that game will see the light of the world.

 

MICKEY YOU JERK! HELP AGUA WHILE YOU'RE IN THE ROD FOR Kingdom Hearts' SAKE!

poor Agua

[Isamu Kuno 2,512]

I thought that was a keyblade of light, o_o

Nope, Mickey obtained it in the Realm of Darkness because he needed a Keyblade of Darkness to seal the Door to Darkness from that side while Sora closed it from the other. That's the whole reason he left Disney castle in the first place because the Star Seeker is a Keyblade of Light and so could not seal the Door to Darkness from the Realm of Light.

 

I thought they had confirmed that Xehanort's Keyblade was made of Darkness... My bad 

 

Not confirmed, no. But it's not confiremd that it's not either.

 

 

 

Now here is something that is bugging me for quite a while. How the heck did Mickey go into de RoD in the first place? We were hoping for it to be explained on BbSII or smething, but I don't think that game will see the light of the world.

 

MICKEY YOU JERK! HELP AGUA WHILE YOU'RE IN THE ROD FOR Kingdom Hearts' SAKE!

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Actually it was shown either in 3D or Re:Coded that mickey first went to Taverse Town (where Corridors of Darkness appear randomly) and entered the RoD from there. Well it is implied that he died meet Aqua but was unable to save her, likely because he had to stay behind as well and was only able to return to the Realm of Light through his connection with Riku when a Castle Oblivion World Card appeared to him.

Edited July 29, 2014 by Isamu_Kuno

[VeNate13 144]

A keyblade from the realm of sleep is an interesting idea but I don't know how that would work.

[FutureKeybearer 36]

I think they might have different abilities or something