Ok, let's get this out of the way- Yes, i'm new here c: and yes, I am obesessed with the subject i'm about to explain.

 

So, I want you guy's opinions on what happed to Lea and Isa, how they became Nobodies, how Isa got Norted, how Isa got his scar, what they were doing in the castle in the FIRST place, AND WHY SAIX AND AXEL ARE NOW ENEMIES. I mean- How is that NOT an interesting subject?
 

  WELL, MY theory is.... When Isa and Lea snuck into the castle, they got caught my Xehanort, and Xehanort thought that Isa would make a good vessel, and, well, you know, Norted him. And used him to dispose of Lea, so Lea and Isa fought, and Lea somehow gained his chakrams and gave Isa that scar and blah blah blah, i'm writing a whole fanfic about it called 'A Broken Friendship', so, yeah...

So, what are you guy's theories???

 

Hey welcome! Anyway about your question, yeah they are a lot of questions left unexplain.

Hello and your subject of Lea and Isa is interesting. However, if they were norted chrongolicaly( don't know how to spell it), then, Isa and Lea were basically around sixteen or still have immature bodies still. So...if you think about it... why such young vessels. ...Wait... Xehanort did take Ienzo's heart and he was still young at the time. So...would that mean nobodies and mature into adults. If so, I basically countered myself. So, regardless, I think, Even if Isa and Lea sneaked in the castle, got their hearts seperated, turned into Nobodies, their bodies would still mature. Anyway, have a fun time here.

It has never been revealed what exactly happened . One could guess based on what we do know that maybe they got caught up in the experiments and the apprentices put the cloak on him beforehand bc they knew he would need it .They could've been kidnapped and forced after maybe trying to sneak into the castle again like they did in BBS.Whatever happened , it certainly sparked their hidden plan of rebellion against Xemnas. Also, Isa being slowly turned into Xehanort prolly helped destroy their friendship especially since at the same time Axel was regrowing a new heart .

 

 

 

Also Nomura has already mentioned a body cannot age without a heart so nobodies don't age ( unless they were regrowing their hearts which is possible )

 

Edited July 11, 201411 yr by Flaming Lea

Judging by the place of their rebirth and Xemnas's behavior towards the both of them I think it's safe to say they were unwilling subjects in Xehanort's experiments. From the very first moment we saw Isa he had the features of Xehanort. This to me suggests that he was norted before being split into Heartless and Nobody. IMO Xehanort wanting to avoid another Terra like power struggle decided to prep his vessel appropriately before hand then remove the vessel's heart in order to speed up the process as well as to see what variables would prevent candidates from becoming successful vessel. I think Isa and Lea were caught sneaking around the castle and Xehanort or Xemnas captured them and norted them. He then marked their bodies with the Recusant Sigil so he could track them once he split them into Heartless and Nobody. If you think about it Xemnas knew that Siax and Axel were traitors the entire time but did nothing to stop them because regardless their plans aligned with what Xemnas wanted all along. He was purposely waiting to see whether the two of them would be successful vessels. The defining factor between the two is that Axel failed to become recusant (Abandon his sense of self) and through his interaction with Sora and Roxas he managed to start or completly grow his heart back. Conversely Siax point blank refused to put up the facade of having a heart and embraced his existence as a Nobody( and by extension a Xehanort) and in attempt to achieve his own goals he willingly followed the path Xemnas laid out for him. Judging how far Siax was into the nortification process since we first see him and how fast the changes progressed during the course of Days and KH2 it's safe to say that Siax/Isa was far better equipped to suit Xehanort's vessel then Axel/Lea.

Edited July 11, 201411 yr by devereauxr

after 3d ending, goofy says that lea rushed back to radiant garden.. i wonder why... and welcome to kh13

 

It has never been revealed what exactly happened . One could guess based on what we do know that maybe they got caught up in the experiments and the apprentices put the cloak on him beforehand bc they knew he would need it .They could've been kidnapped and forced after maybe trying to sneak into the castle again like they did in BBS.Whatever happened , it certainly sparked their hidden plan of rebellion against Xemnas. Also, Isa being slowly turned into Xehanort prolly helped destroy their friendship especially since at the same time Axel was regrowing a new heart .

 

 

 

Also Nomura has already mentioned a body cannot age without a heart so nobodies don't age ( unless they were regrowing their hearts which is possible )

 

 

So Ienzo, Isa, and Lea had regrown their hearts since Ienzo was a kid when the incident happened and Isa and Lea were teens

So Ienzo, Isa, and Lea had regrown their hearts since Ienzo was a kid when the incident happened and Isa and Lea were teens

And Braig looked much younger. 

Saix's scar can be merely a "nobody mark". Just like Axel's purple things under his eye. But I can't say for sure

haha what's with all these extremely funny puns like becoming a nort or norted or nortifacation it's funny lmao oh and welcome friend i hope you enjoy your stay at kh13

So Ienzo, Isa, and Lea had regrown their hearts since Ienzo was a kid when the incident happened and Isa and Lea were teens

 

Most possibly.That and they did have at least one year to grow since we saw them last in BBS . But lets not pretend there's not plotholes in KH Ha!

And Braig looked much younger. 

 Braig had not gotten his silver streaks yet which could be signs of being norted and not necessarily age .

Most possibly.That and they did have at least one year to grow since we saw them last in BBS . But lets not pretend there's not plotholes in KH Ha!

 Braig had not gotten his silver streaks yet which could be signs of being norted and not necessarily age .

In the Final Episode of BBS he had his nort eyes but his hair was still short and black.

In the Final Episode of BBS he had his nort eyes but his hair was still short and black.

 

That doesn't mean much considering the heart slowly becomes more and more Xehanort over time which means over time he would pick up more nort features .Here is what i'm referring to :

 

 What happens to the hearts of those who have had Master Xehanort’s heart planted within them?

Nomura: They’ll gradually be swallowed by it. As for Master Xehanort, he plans to control them completely. The planted parts of the heart are captured rather than disappear.

Edited July 11, 201411 yr by Flaming Lea

Hmmm, I have no idea........I like to imagine that Lea _{^{(being the smart aleck that he is)}} said something that ticked-off  Xehanort while in Radiant Garden, and Xehanort originally had his Keyblade pointed at him, but Isa intervened and took the hit, resulting in the scar on his face. While unconscious, Xehanort walked over to his limp body and began to possess him as well. Of course Lea jumped up and tried to stop Xehanort, but was held back by Braig. The last thing he remembers hearing is Isa's screams. And now, 10 years later, we have a bitter Saix and a regretful Axel.

Saix's scar can be merely a "nobody mark". Just like Axel's purple things under his eye. But I can't say for sure

Axel uses mascara, y'know.

I think that something happened during their attempts to get into the castle at Radiant Garden. There will probably be plenty of explanation in KH3. 

 

It has never been revealed what exactly happened . One could guess based on what we do know that maybe they got caught up in the experiments and the apprentices put the cloak on him beforehand bc they knew he would need it .They could've been kidnapped and forced after maybe trying to sneak into the castle again like they did in BBS.Whatever happened , it certainly sparked their hidden plan of rebellion against Xemnas. Also, Isa being slowly turned into Xehanort prolly helped destroy their friendship especially since at the same time Axel was regrowing a new heart .

 

 

 

Also Nomura has already mentioned a body cannot age without a heart so nobodies don't age ( unless they were regrowing their hearts which is possible )

 

 

 

Didn't Nomura mean a heartless body like that of Ventus, instead of a body that didn't have a heart from the start, like a nobody?

That would mean nobodies do age, but people who lost their hearts and yet were able to keep their body intact don't.

Edited July 30, 201411 yr by SkyKeybladeHero

Ya like it's been said we don't know what happened but I like your theory!

The Lea/Isa subject always been one of those that interested me more. So many things could have happened that our speculations can only be vague, but I can't wait to see what Nomura has in store regarding this argument!

Didn't Nomura mean a heartless body like that of Ventus, instead of a body that didn't have a heart from the start, like a nobody?

That would mean nobodies do age, but people who lost their hearts and yet were able to keep their body intact don't.

 

No Nomura specifically noted you needed a heart to grow/age period  -Pretty straight foward for Nomura.. Also Nomura confirmed only those two ( Ansem and Sora ) people were able to keep human form as a heartless albeit for different reasons though. ( willingly giving up their bodies)

Edited August 1, 201411 yr by Flaming Lea