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How would Xion return given the events of 358 Days / 2?

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Quite simply, how would Xion return in Kingdom Hearts 3? Surely for her to return, Sora would have to enter a deep slumber again, since Sora could not awaken when she existed as she possessed fragments of his memory? This raises the question: How would Xion return given the events of 358 Days/2?

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  • HarLea Quinn
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    Because she developed her own heart and therefore her own separate self. As DDD said, anything can grow a heart - even a puppet. Ansem the Wise explained it in the end well and his hidden data is the

  • lostmemory123
    lostmemory123

    Disney magic and whimsy is usually the answer in this situation.

  • HarLea Quinn
    HarLea Quinn

    I think people are forgetting if she grew her own heart like stated in DDD her existence is no longer based off Sora's memories. By growing her own heart therefore her own identity separate from Sora

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I did watch DDD, in fact I watched a playthrough of it.I'm just wondering how Xion will be able to to connect through sora even though her physical form was scattered.

 

If you watched/played DDD you would know she grew her own heart. From that Ansem's hidden data can help somehow with a physical form.

The data Ansem mentioned in DDD, as well as the fact a body can grow a heart, blah blah blah.

 

Also there's Vexen/Even. He could play a role with the data Ansem left behind.

Who is Xion?

 

Play Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days, sweetheart. Then play Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance. Then come back.

Play Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days, sweetheart. Then play Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance. Then come back.

 

I think the whole "Who is Xion?" comment was just there to pour salt on the wound with the fact that Xion is completely forgotten once she is eliminated.

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I think the whole "Who is Xion?" comment was just there to pour salt on the wound with the fact that Xion is completely forgotten once she is eliminated.

Poor thing.

Play Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days, sweetheart. Then play Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance. Then come back.

Change your nickname, sweetheart. Then come back. ;D

I think the whole "Who is Xion?" comment was just there to pour salt on the wound with the fact that Xion is completely forgotten once she is eliminated.

I still remember her. *runs away in case anybody tries to make me forget*
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Does the returning of Xion not raise the question that Axel and Roxas wouldn't remember her, since all memories of her had been eradicated?

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Does the returning of Xion not raise the question that Axel and Roxas wouldn't remember her, since all memories of her had been eradicated?

Um...
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Um...

Forgive me. I haven't played DDD or watched it yet since I don't own a 3DS so that's why I didn't know!

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Play Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days, sweetheart. Then play Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance. Then come back.

Oh, the ironyOn topic: Kingdom Hearts 3 is basically a quest to find the Dragonballs and BRING BACK OUR FRIENDS!!! NOMURARON FTW!!!!

Forgive me. I haven't played DDD or watched it yet since I don't own a 3DS so that's why I didn't know!

It's okay. I'm not mad.

If Xion was to come back, I think she may work for The Seekers Of Darkness. Not as a direct seeker of darkness, rather, as a failsafe. That's how she was always designed. Young Xehanort could easily time travel back to the point where Xion was conceived and manipulate her to join the true Seekers Of Darkness after knowing her true fate and purpose.

If Xion was to come back, I think she may work for The Seekers Of Darkness. Not as a direct seeker of darkness, rather, as a failsafe. That's how she was always designed. Young Xehanort could easily time travel back to the point where Xion was conceived and manipulate her to join the true Seekers Of Darkness after knowing her true fate and purpose.

Nah, I don't think that'll happen. Xion has to be saved, as far as we know, and it'd be really lame to save her just to lose her to the dark side. (And please, no more time travel). Besides, Xion is a friend of Roxas and Lea, she wouldn't turn against them.

Nah, I don't think that'll happen. Xion has to be saved, as far as we know, and it'd be really lame to save her just to lose her to the dark side. (And please, no more time travel). Besides, Xion is a friend of Roxas and Lea, she wouldn't turn against them.

 

They just introduced time travel. Nomura never eliminates a new element of lore that he just recently introduced. Sure, Xion has to be saved but her saving is different from Axel and Roxas. Xehanort is manipulative, he'll have other reasons to have Xion rebel.

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They just introduced time travel. Nomura never eliminates a new element of lore that he just recently introduced. Sure, Xion has to be saved but her saving is different from Axel and Roxas. Xehanort is manipulative, he'll have other reasons to have Xion rebel.

 

Most people don't like the time travel, so I assume it will be a one time thing. Xion's whole life was miserable so far, sacrificing herself for other ones, so I guess she will be saved without any more incidents. But till KH3 is released we won't know for sure  :)

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Time travel was introduced in the series long before KH3D was released. Remember Timeless River?

If Xion was to come back, I think she may work for The Seekers Of Darkness. Not as a direct seeker of darkness, rather, as a failsafe. That's how she was always designed. Young Xehanort could easily time travel back to the point where Xion was conceived and manipulate her to join the true Seekers Of Darkness after knowing her true fate and purpose.

 

Um nah I don't think they'd use some puppet that nobody even remembers as one of the Norteen. I mean if they could use that power to time travel back to that period, then they would use all that "manipulating" to get Roxas on board....... like Young Xehanort already said they wanted. 

 

"Roxas... Now, there was a worthy candidate. But, unfortunately, he became too aware of himself, and returned to Sora."- Young Xehanort, DDD

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This wouldn't happen bc of a few reasons :

 

1. She became too self aware and developed her own identity so she's a failed candidate for the same reason Roxas was. They both became self aware and grew their own hearts. Same thing happened to Repliku. Neither Xion or Repliku were designed to grow their own separate hearts or wills or identities yet they did. Which made them unsuccessful replicas for the purpose they were made for.

 

2. In order to be a successful vessel they need to fall or be filled with darkness and they need to cast away their identities. ( this is why Xehanort needed the org members to fall to darkness and to cast away their identities and hearts and why he gave them new X names)

 

3. If they extracted her grown heart from inside Sora and gave her her own existence she wouldn't be a replica anymore bc her heart was the real deal not a fake or replica. Her new existence would be different from her original existence

 

I suppose you're right there. It's just that, aside personal experiences, I find it difficult to differentiate Xion from Namine and Kairi (which is not a good thing). What other purpose would Xion have aside aiding The Guardians Of Light?

I suppose you're right there. It's just that, aside personal experiences, I find it difficult to differentiate Xion from Namine and Kairi (which is not a good thing). What other purpose would Xion have aside aiding The Guardians Of Light?

If you think of it like that, there really is no purpose to bring any of them back except for them to exist and for their friends.  And to gang up on Xehanort :P

If you think of it like that, there really is no purpose to bring any of them back except for them to exist and for their friends.  And to gang up on Xehanort :P

 

I suppose you're right (again). Personally, I haven't got anything against Xion, I just hate how Nomura has made so many key characters visual clones of each other (Sora & Vanitas, Roxas & Ventus, Kairi, Xion & Namine). At the very least Nomura, make them much more distinguishable in terms of appearance!

I suppose you're right (again). Personally, I haven't got anything against Xion, I just hate how Nomura has made so many key characters visual clones of each other (Sora & Vanitas, Roxas & Ventus, Kairi, Xion & Namine). At the very least Nomura, make them much more distinguishable in terms of appearance!

 

I totally understand how you feel. It makes sense.

This wouldn't happen bc of a few reasons :

 

1. She became too self aware and developed her own identity so she's a failed candidate for the same reason Roxas was. They both became self aware and grew their own hearts. Same thing happened to Repliku. Neither Xion or Repliku were designed to grow their own separate hearts or wills or identities yet they did. Which made them unsuccessful replicas for the purpose they were made for.

 

2. In order to be a successful vessel they need to fall or be filled with darkness and they need to cast away their identities. ( this is why Xehanort needed the org members to fall to darkness and to cast away their identities and hearts and why he gave them new X names)

 

3. If they extracted her grown heart from inside Sora and gave her her own existence she wouldn't be a replica anymore bc her heart was the real deal not a fake or replica. Her new existence would be different from her original existence

 

I actually thought the same, and was sure that it makes absolute sense, but then I thought of one thing:

What about Sora? He should've been the 13th vessel, and every one of your three points is true for Sora. So why could he have been a vessel but not Roxas and Xion?

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I actually thought the same, and was sure that it makes absolute sense, but then I thought of one thing:

What about Sora? He should've been the 13th vessel, and every one of your three points is true for Sora. So why could he have been a vessel but not Roxas and Xion?

What do you think the whole point of the Norts leading Sora to TWTNW  and Xemnas and YMX showing up and talking and explaining things throughout the game were? Why do you think they needed him to be trapped into a dream in a dream in TWTNW? They needed him to fall into a deep sleep submerged in darkness. They also had him questioning his identity and purpose hinting at hidden hearts and pain inside him he wasn't aware of. They basically brainfiretrucked and tricked him to get him into the conditions needed to achieve their goal.This answer should've been pretty obvious to you since you played the game? On top of that they don't even exist separately right now. Unless Roxas and Xion were to willingly be norted ( and why would they do that for obvious reasons?) the Norts would've needed to somehow do something similiar to them. Why do you think the Norts willingly went after Riku first but gave up after seeing they couldn't get him to fall to darkness since he had learned to control and overcome it? That's when they decided to try Sora.

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