It's already confirmed that KH3 will not be the last Kingdom Hearts game, but the last one in the Xehanort Saga. But what do you think they're going to do for the new saga? Here's what I've thought of and might even make a video on the subject.

 

-New main characters: Sora, Riku, Roxas, Aqua & all of the other characters are great and all. But I feel like the next saga could take advantage of new characters. Like how almost every numbered Final Fantasy game has a new cast. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Sora or the other main characters, but sometimes I want something new. But the biggest reason has to do with the already established story. Having any returning character from the original Saga come in would almost require them to go over past events. Now, this wouldn't be so bad if the original saga wasn't so complex and confusing. Even some of the biggest KH fans don't know what's going on at this point. 

 

However; you could bring them back and make them not mention any of the past events right? That would be incredibly awkward though, that would be like if there was a sequel to FF7 and Cloud never mentioned the events at Midgar or any about Sephiroth. This new Saga should be something for the older fans and something for newer fans to get into. And a fresh start would be perfect for both.

 

-Expanding the Universe of Kingdom Hearts: I know a lot of people are iffy on the subject of Marvel & Star Wars. There are even some people who think KH should only be Disney Animated Films and never use Live Action content or even Pixar's content. Disney has a lot of films but I don't think they have enough for a new Saga. We need to let KH grow and if one world doesn't work then there are countless others to enjoy. Star Wars, Lucas Films, Marvel, Pixar, Live Action Films, Disney Interactive, Stop Motion, Disney Animated Series, Studio Ghibli (Disney only distributed the films) & other Square Enix properties like how they added The World Ends with You in Dream Drop Distance. I know this maybe hard for some and I could go on a rant as to why they should at least experiment with the idea, but I'm just going to leave it with this. Do you really think there are enough Disney Animated Films to make up a 2nd Saga? Keep in mind, not all Disney Films can work like Aristocats.

 

-A Final Fantasy Party Member: What boggles my mind is that Kingdom Hearts is a Final Fantasy & Disney Crossover right? Well why is it just Sora, Donald & Goofy? Why not a 4th Party Member from Final Fantasy that would join Sora or the new main character in his/her quest. Like Cloud, Leon, Tidus, the kids from World of Final Fantasy, Warrior of Light, Lightning, maybe even Noctus. Donald and Goofy interact with other Disney characters in their worlds but seeing them interact isn't too far off and wouldn't it be more entertaining to see Cloud interact and fight along side characters like Aladdin, Tron or Stitch in their worlds?

 

-More of an feeling of a Disney & Final Fantasy Crossover: I already talked about party members, but the point still stands. There aren't too many Final Fantasy characters in Kingdom Hearts, and the ones we have haven't talked to many other Disney characters besides Donald, Goofy and maybe Mickey. The exceptions are the FF characters that get into Olympus Coliseum and the Disney characters that happen to be in Hallow Bastion/Radiant Garden or Traverse Town. Heck, when The World Ends with You characters were added, they talked to NO Disney Characters. Their involvement made it feel less like a Crossover. How about more story driven FF characters like how Auron fought Hercules. Maybe in the Big Hero 6 world we could see something like idk (just as an example) Vincent Valentine used by a villain to try and destroy Baimax or something like that. Adding more of an emphasis of crossovers. FF Summons, boss fights, villains, party members, worlds, maybe one as a 13 darkness, ect. We just need to have more of a reason to call this a Disney & Final Fantasy Crossover besides just that Final Fantasy characters happen to be in it.

 

-A 4 Legged Spin off: Remember the Pride Lands and odd it felt when you could use no Summons or Drives in that world due to your form? It felt limiting in some cases. I like the Pride Lands world, but I sometimes hate going to it because of his limiting it can be on my abilities. But what if we made a game that focused on a four legged character wielding a keyblade going to worlds based on 101 Dalmatians, Aristocats, the other Lion King movies, Bolt, ect. But NOT as the new Saga but maybe as a spin off with it's own story. Wether or not this story would eventually connect to the new Saga or it stays as it's own identity as long as this idea isn't used for the next Saga and should only be used as a Spin off or mini-saga. Sense the gameplay would be based around a 4 legged main character there would be less limitations on gameplay. Worlds like Bolt, 101 Dalmatians, Aristocats, Bambi, Dumbo, Brother Bear, The Fox and the Hound, Home on the Range, Lady and the Tramp and Oliver & Company could be in. And maybe as some live action worlds how about one of the Buddies movies or Shaggy Dog? A Pixar world: The Good Dinosaur or Ratatouille, there's a lot that can work that would work to well with a normal Saga that revolve around human characters. Once again, NOT as the main idea of the next saga but as a seperate product or spin off.

 

-More Mickey Mouse Cartoon Characters: Goofy's son Max, Darkwing Duck, Mortimer Mouse, it's been a while sense we've seen a lot of characters from the old Mickey Mouse cartoon. The the most recent thing we got was a modern version of Horace in Birth by Sleep. But, the thing is, we have so many that could work. Mortimer was made to be a rival of Mickey so why not make him an anti-hero who can also wield a keyblade but try to beat Mickey so he could become the King and insult Sora and his Keyblade every now and then. Max is Goofy's son so why not make him a soldier in training but also try and make him independent like he was in the Goofy movies. Darkwing Duck could be a masked crusader in something like Radiant Garden or Twilight Town. Oswald the Lucky Rabbit could try to be like Donald and Goofy wielding his own weapon or act as a summon who could use the remote he had in Epic Mickey 2. The Evil Scientist who was brought back in Epic Mickey could be a Side Villain. It sometimes confuses me as to why they didn't try and add new Mickey Mouse characters, I mean they are popular and could be use in inventive ways.

 

-Drop sequence staple: I feel like the Drop should become a series staple. I could expand on movement, combat and allow other worlds to grow. Imagine if you were in San Fransokyo from Big Hero 6 (which, yes is already confirmed but just follow me) There are a lot of huge buildings and the movement given to you in KH1, KH2 or Birth by Sleep wouldn't allow you to go to the top freely. Making the drop a series stable could add more of an emphasis of what KH was all about; fighting Heartless & exploring the worlds you go to.

 

-Keyblade Classes: For those confused, let me explain. Sora has a standard sword like Keyblade. But some characters have larger or smaller keyblades. Why not let the new main character (or the characters you play as) be more customizable with classes. Single Keyblade, Dual wield, Buster Key, Wand Key, Dagger Key, Chain Key (Chain scythe), Scythe Key. I know a lot of these  could be possible as Keyblade Transformations, but these classes could change so much about the gameplay like how we fight, the combos, sped and strength on the combos, strength in magic, transformations exclusive to certain classes, ect. We already have combo customs, keyblade customs, shortcut customs, armor, stat changing customs, items that add more defense and strength. But maybe we could give more of a flare in battle and a little more customization.

 

-Disney Villains in other worlds & Final Fantasy Villains: Remember in KH1 when we saw all of the Disney Villains in Hollow Bastion, plotting on how to get the princesses and what not? It was nice to see them all interact with one another and be outside their own world and be in something like Hollow Bastion, but I kind of want to see other villains cause havic in other worlds besides their own. We can still have them be defeated in their world and be the main threat of that world but there are some worlds who don't have a random series antagonist and some wouldn't work for big boss fights. Clayton as the final boss of Deep Jungle works but it was kind of out there making him ride that giant heartless. Maybe we could see someone like Hades mettle with Baimax or Oogie Boogie trying to catch Rapunzel. This would add more of an essence of a crossover for the Disney Characters. But what about Final Fantasy villains, the only thing we got was Sephiroth as a secret boss. Why not Kefka or Garland sending Heartless to other worlds?

 

-Orchestrated Soundtrack: I don't think this has ever been done before. I could understand why they didn't due it for the PS2 & Portable games but why not the PS3 Remakes? I'm not sure if KH3 is going to have an orchestrated ost but if not maybe we could make it something we could do for the next Saga. A lot of Disney's music is orchestrated, especially in films like Fantasia and many of their older films so it's not something too far off.

 

-Timeskip (maybe): To make sure the original events of the Xehanort Saga don't make the story of this new Saga too confusing, maybe there could be a 10 year time skip. Characters like Donald, Goofy & Mickey could remain the way they are but some characters like Sora could be a bit older. However; this would have to sacrifice some worlds & FF Characters like Cloud & Leon so I don't know if it would be completely worth it. However; some films could still return like Alice in Wonderland but in it's 2010 remake, Peterpan in Return to Neverland, and if Toy Story does get into KH3 then maybe Toy Story 3 could be in the new Saga. But this is just a random idea. Who knows? They could do a time skip or make this new Saga take place in another universe where the events of the Xehanort Saga never happened. so the main cast never would've been the same or maybe even exist and characters like Mickey would have no memory of Sora and the other characters. However; I'm not sure how the fans would react to that. Making a new saga might not be as easy as everyone makes it out to be.

 

-Worlds based on Shorts: Disney back then had a lot of shorts, they still try and make newer shorts these days. Some of these shorts could even be expanded and made into their own worlds. Just add a bit more to the story, shape up the world and give it the same KH treatment as any other world. Maybe not the ones starring characters like Mickey Mouse sense they already have their own purpose in KH, unless they were sleeping worlds like Fantasia and the 3 Musketeers were in Dream Drop Distance. If we could find some shorts that could work, then I see no reason why we couldn't add some of these shorts as worlds. It would even work as a way to expand the KH Universe.

 

-Disney Animated series: Things like Disney X-D, Disney Channel or Toon Disney may be able to work as well. (Just as long as it's not the live action stuff, live action content is fine but I'm sure no one wants to see a Hannah Montana or a Suite Life of Zack & Cody world, god forbid High School Musical) The animated series were the best things there. Gravity Falls, Gargoyles, Kim Possible, American Dragon, Recess, Darkwing Duck, Duck Tales, Star Vs. the Forces of Evil, ect. Maybe a secret boss fight(s) from the Lilo & Stitch Animated Series. Maybe like how you have to find the 101 Dalmations in KH1, you could try to find some of the lost experiments? They could act like common enemies that are sort of rare or have to be encountered through certain actions. And once beaten, they'll become the little pod again and be put in your inventory to return to their own world or something. I don't know, I just feel like the animated series don't get the attention they deserve.

 

-Unlockable Costumes: In certain worlds Sora had his form changed to fit in. Like in Halloween Town, Space Paranoids, ect. He even got sone design changes for other games. So why not in the future games we can have unlockable costumes? Some based on KH, Final Fantasy, Disney or other propeties! Like Alladin Prince costume, a 2010 Mad Hatter Costume, a Disney Land Mickey Costume, or a Cloud Costume? Maybe some like Deadpool, Luke Skywalker or Neku Sabara!

Edited February 9, 20169 yr by GothicSlenderman

I'd like to see a situation where Sora and his friends, aren't so much the villain, but seen as the villain whether be throughout the outside influence of the true antagonist to frame Sora and his friends or otherwise. That would be rather interesting, I think.

Only one issue with yoru first request. It's also already confirmed that Sora will always be the main character, even after KH3, So all numbered titles, KH4, 5, 6 etc will have him in the starring role. No. 7 is an issue because of that too. Chances are the Gummi Ship will remain Sora's main mode of transportation between worlds.Everything else is fine.

Edited February 9, 20169 yr by Isamu_Kuno

Maybe then the new saga can become lighter and more kid-friendly again if Kingdom Hearts III gets a bit too gritty.

Sora will be the protagonist so he won't be villain-like. I think we will see the return of the true Kingdom Hearts to the Realm of Light. As for the villain, that will be interesting who is the villain.

i would love to see a sympathetic villain

i would love to see a sympathetic villain

Vantais says hi.

I'll bite.

 

- I disagree with the new characters part. KH is what it is because of it's characters. To completely scrap would be very very detrimental with at least a very smooth transition.

 

- KH has expanded, albeit very tamely. I'm open to some expansion. I think some trial would be fine.

 

-  While Auron has been a party member, you are right. I think more worlds (maybe even a world or 2 for FF) should feature FF characters. They have been throwing them in as side characters, and I think they've been doing it well, but including them into the plot certainly wouldn't hurt, especially in new worlds.

 

-100% agree. The 1st game was more disney based, but the FF characters were well incorporated, and really the only game that had the perfect mesh. However the series has really drifted from the disney part, and KH's audience is a bit older, so incorporating some more FF would certainly be a good idea.

 

-Wasn't a fan of the Lion King world, but many liked it, and it's a more minor request so I really don't have an opinion.

 

-Saw Fantasia Mickey, so it is certainly possible we see some more expansion.

 

-No opinion on shorts, but probably won't happen as they would have to incorporate in story, and already had timeless river.

 

-Drop system won't be a staple.

 

-Classes.. Meh............. I don't really want THAAT much FF in the battle system. I mean there's elements, but this is a pretty big one. Sora is a balanced character, and there's other characters with other play styles.

 

-Disney kind of lost its luster when KH became it's own, but agree more FF villains would be nice, and working with (or against) Disney villains could breathe new life into the series.

 

-I'd be down for a timeskip. It would add some intrigue and probably make it easier to write a story. Always thought it'd be interesting to see a story where Sora's kids or someone he passes down to becomes a focus (kind of like DBZ)

 

-Disney Animated.... god no

 

-Costumes... we'll probably see these in kh3, and more choices would be nice.

Whoa, my brain almost didn't catch all that, but luckily, I was practicing my reading skills last night, so I understood everything you said, and boy, you've got some impressive ideas bottled up there, bud!

 

I'm all for new characters appearing in the next saga!  I kind of imagine that the new generation of Keyblade Wielders would go searching for Sora, because maybe he's been missing for some years, doing who knows what!  That'd be interesting!  As long as there's an equal amount of new and old, I'm good!

 

Well hey, if Star Wars and Marvel would be put in, that'd be swell!  Transcendent what's his name was a bit iffy on the subject at first, but then he warmed up to the idea! (Thanks, in part, to your dashingly handsome Deadpool, of course! ;p)  If handled well, I'm pretty sure Star Wars and Marvel would make great additions to the KH Universe!  The possibilities are endless!  And I also like the idea of Disney villains crossing over other worlds too!  It'd be curious seeing them in other worlds not their own!

 

As for the Last Fantasy party member and a four legged critter spin-off, I'm not so big on those ideas!  I mean sure, I love Last Fantasy characters as much as the next guy, but I think they serve their purpose in the worlds they're in, ya know?  And even though I'd probably play a four legged critter KH game, I don't like the idea of the game being specifically about a four legged character! 

 

I'm pretty sure 1.5 and 2.5's tracks, well, not all of them, but most, were orchestrated!  So I'm pretty sure that all KH games going forward from this point will be orchestrated the way the tracks from 1.5 and 2.5 were done!  And Keyblade Classes sound fun, though, like you said, they sound more like Keyblade Transformations than classes, but if Nomura finds a way to make a class system, that'd be pretty cool!  As long as it doesn't limit the abilities you learn, I'm all up for it!

 

I also agree that more characters from Mickey's movies should appear!  I'd love to see Max Goof and Oswald!  And there's lots of Disney animated shows that are pretty damn good, and they'd make great worlds for future KH games if done correctly, ya know?

 

Hmm, I'm sorta mixed on the Dive sequence.  While I like it and all, I like Gummi Ship missions too, so I don't know where I stand here! (Heh, Gummi...Gummi Bears!!!) And a timeskip from old Spockanort's saga to the new one should be a long one, so a 10 year gap's perfect!  And I like the idea of unlockable costumes! It'd really go a long way to personalizing your character!

 

Well Slenderdude, you've made your point!  I'm thoroughly interested!  You deserve a chimichanga! *Gives you a chimichanga.*

 

i'll just go point by point

 

1. No i'd rather we keep Sora and co. Also i think it could be possible to keep them and not mention the previous saga. i'd like it if the two sagas were kept completely isolated from each other. the next one should be completely it's own thing. something fresh and not bogged down by the previous one.

 

2. no to this one too. i don't have anything against Star Wars or Marvel but I would just prefer it if they stayed out of KH. That's all I'll say, lest I go on a rant.

 

3. I think Donald and Goofy have stuck around so much because having a Final Fantasy character join would make things too unbalanced. The game would start to feel more like a Final Fantasy spin off and whoever the FF character is could wind up stealing the show simply because most FF characters are more developed than Donald Duck and Goofy. 

 

4. Yes

 

5. No spin offs. This series is stretched too thin as it is. 

 

6. Yea I'm all for SE really digging into Disney's past stuff and bringing it to a new light. Go for it.

 

7. I think you mean the Flowmotion because the Drop feature should definitely NOT be brought back. I'm indifferent towards the flowmotion mechanic. i'd be willing to give it one more shot if they tweaked it a bit and toned it down. the downside of the flowmotion in DDD was having to traverse huge empty rooms with nothing in them and i'd rather get smaller and more detailed rooms if it meant dropping the flowmotion aspect.

 

8. No classes. it just over-complicates things imo. i'm fine with how the Keyblades are now. Actually I'm not. I liked them better in KH2 and KH1 when they had their own pros and cons. In recent games you just pick the keyblade with the highest numbers and bam you're good to go.

 

9. Yea hopefully SE really takes advantage of the hardware they have at their disposal to really go all out with the characters and worlds they have. Playing through the KH series shows how much wasted potential there was for some of these worlds.

 

10. I thought they DID do orchestral music for the ReMIXes? At least the main numbered games in them. Either way, yea sure.

 

11. I don't think that's necessary. just don't address the previous events. once the story of the new saga gets going no one is going to be concerned with what happened in the last saga...unless Nomura uses it as a crutch to keep the new saga going because he can't write a new standalone story.

 

12. That would be a pretty cool idea to have a side quest where you look for the missing experiments and each one you find is a secret boss or something. of course that would be a hell of a lot of secret bosses so i imagine it would have to be limited to one orb per world and then once you find them all you can access an area that let's you fight them. I'd dig that. 

 

13. Meh it's a cosmetic thing so i'm ok with it. i'll gladly take a KH2 costume

I'll add one more point. I think the new series should start simple like the 1st game. Go back to your roots. Trying to over complicate it will lead to guaranteed failure.