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Why I think 20 worlds is silly.

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Goodness me, I don't like it when people ask for 20 worlds in KH3. I think it's way too much to ask for, 20 WORLDS? This shows off Olympus which probably isn't even done yet. I honestly think asking for another 15 worlds (tangled, bh6, yen sid's tower, OC and twilight town already confirmed) of this scale is WAY too much. I think 13 worlds is enough for this game. I'd much rather have 13 detailed and immersive worlds than 20 boring ones. Sorry about the image quality.

 

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Look at this.Twilight town isn't even done yet, you still hoping for 20 worlds? 

 

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Think about the tangled world, why haven't we seen more areas rather than that one place by the tower? Why didn't SE show at least a screenshot or render of the BH6 world? C'mon now, 20 WORLDS? I personally think that's far too much to be asking.

 

 

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I don't think you understand the context of 'mass production' he was using. Mass production is not easy in any way. Production of worlds is not just, 'oh lets just open up 3d rendering pro--oh, nvm, finished world guys MOVE ON'. It takes time and effort to produce these, especially on a large scale such as this. Don't forget, Nomura speaks Japanese for the most part so there's always the chance that something may be lost or added in translation. If it's completely unaltered, he meant that the production of worlds was now underway and would be the main focus of that stage of development. In no way was he implying it would be quick. The only way it would be quick is if they had a much larger team, and the fact that there is a collaboration between two teams might speed up the process but it's still a very difficult process.

<3 rocketboy

 

 

I gotta say I'm in the same boat as Shinobi and Rocketboy. Being optimistic is great, but let's not forget the Premium Theatre Event. Never forget that disappointment after being so hyped up for literal months.

 

I think it's much better to make our expectations more realistic in terms of any news we might receive regarding the game this year. I'm hopeful for E3, but assuming we're getting tons of new footage might be wishful thinking. If we do, wonderful. But let's not get carried away with expectations again. Besides, none of us (except maybe a few, I don't know y'all lives) know very little about game development. They likely still have quite a bit of work to do, and let's let them do it without putting gigantic hopes on their shoulders for them to carry. That's not fair of us.

I definitely agree with you there.

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KH2 had 15 worlds, so my guess is about 18 worlds. There's going to be more new worlds than old ones as far as I know.

It's been confirmed we're getting more worlds than any other instalment already which is 13. The truth is we don't know how far square are in terms of development or even what is fully planned. My money would be closer to 20 than 13 ( around 17-20) due to the logic behind it.

 

We know that: Kingdom of Corona; Twilight Town; San Fransokyo; Mount Olympus; Mysterious Tower ( due to having a distinct map from TwilightTown I'm classing this as separate) and what appears to be Land of Departure ( until confirmed)

 

One can probably assume that: Keyblade Graveyard; Radiant Garden; Castle Oblivion; 100 acre wood ( if you believe Jim Cummings); Disney Castle wil return too and it's been confirmed we'll see Kingdom Hearts itself ( so consider this might be playable)- we're on 12 worlds.

 

That's 5 disney worlds alone; sorry but I cannot see only 6 disney worlds being in the game. Not only would it be a disappointment; but seriously? When you compare this to: Space Parnoids; 100 Acre Wood; The Land of Dragons; Beast's Castle; Olympus Coliseum; Disney Castle; Timeless River; Port Royal; Atlantica; Agrabah; Halloween Town and The Pride Lands in KH2, there's no way that will happen.

 

I appreciated and agree with yours concern regarding then worlds; however logic would show 20 is more likely. And would not only show a good range of Non Disney Worlds; but most importantly a good range of a Disney films allowing a variety of classic films and the new ones

Would be pretty disappointing if kh3 ends up having the same amount of worlds as kh2,which was what 15/16.

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There should be 10 Disney worlds. 5 new and 5 returning. Or 12 if there is room because they have to include the non Disney worlds also

It will probably be 13 again (main story worlds).  I'd kinda be surprised if it was 20.

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It will probably be 13 again (main story worlds).  I'd kinda be surprised if it was 20.

 

After the announcement that Back Cover is only going to be an hour long with the contents of Dream Drop Distance HD and the 0.2 demo (which is the equivalent of one Disney world adventure in Kingdom Hearts III length), I'm now more inclined to believe that it will be 13 worlds as opposed to 20.

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After the announcement that Back Cover is only going to be an hour long with the contents of Dream Drop Distance HD and the 0.2 demo (which is the equivalent of one Disney world adventure in Kingdom Hearts III length), I'm now more inclined to believe that it will be 13 worlds as opposed to 20.

I agree. Think about the scale of the world's too; they're massive!

I agree. Think about the scale of the world's too; they're massive!

 

Exactly, however, I'd like to quote yourself... against yourself!

 

 

13+7=20

You know what Nomura is like with numbers.

 

Here's a mind-blowing idea that makes complete sense

 

Kingdom Hearts 3D: 7 Sleeping Worlds Corresponding To The Princess of Heart

Traverse Town

The Hunchback Of Notre Dame

Tron Legacy

Pinocchio

Mickey, Donald, Goofy: The Three Musketters

Fantasia

The World That Never Was

 

Kingdom Hearts III: 13 Worlds that the Seekers of Darkness are targeting

All confirmed Kingdom Hearts III Worlds

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Exactly, however, I'd like to quote yourself... against yourself!

 

 

 

Here's a mind-blowing idea that makes complete sense

 

Kingdom Hearts 3D: 7 Sleeping Worlds Corresponding To The Princess of Heart

Traverse Town

The Hunchback Of Notre Dame

Tron Legacy

Pinocchio

Mickey, Donald, Goofy: The Three Musketters

Fantasia

The World That Never Was

 

Kingdom Hearts III: 13 Worlds that the Seekers of Darkness are targeting

All confirmed Kingdom Hearts III Worlds

I think 13 vast Disney worlds are enough. 

KH2 had 21 worlds you know and 20 are playable. That is also the longest game of the series. So for KH3 to be longer, it would have more than 21.

I will be happy regardless, but with the power of the PS4, we'll probably have a little more than 20. I know it mainly falls under speculation at this point, but I think our worlds will include most (if not all) the original worlds, the worlds relating the the Princess of Hearts, and maybe a couple other new ones as well. 

 

And on the topic of large worlds, I feel like Twilight Town and Radiant Garden (if it truly appears, which I'm sure it will) are going to be greatly expanded on. It'll have to be with those Disney ride attacks and flowmotion.

I will be happy regardless, but with the power of the PS4, we'll probably have a little more than 20. I know it mainly falls under speculation at this point, but I think our worlds will include most (if not all) the original worlds, the worlds relating the the Princess of Hearts, and maybe a couple other new ones as well. 

 

And on the topic of large worlds, I feel like Twilight Town and Radiant Garden (if it truly appears, which I'm sure it will) are going to be greatly expanded on. It'll have to be with those Disney ride attacks and flowmotion.

 

Pfft, I agree strongly with this!  Like, I can easily see Twilight Town and Radiant Garden being much bigger in scope on the PS4!  And well, I also agree that regardless of world count, I'll be happy, but I'm sure we'll get around 20! :D

Exactly, however, I'd like to quote yourself... against yourself!   Here's a mind-blowing idea that makes complete sense Kingdom Hearts 3D: 7 Sleeping Worlds Corresponding To The Princess of HeartTraverse TownThe Hunchback Of Notre DameTron LegacyPinocchioMickey, Donald, Goofy: The Three MuskettersFantasiaThe World That Never Was Kingdom Hearts III: 13 Worlds that the Seekers of Darkness are targetingAll confirmed Kingdom Hearts III Worlds

Well, it is always a possibility! :P

KH2 had 21 worlds you know and 20 are playable. That is also the longest game of the series. So for KH3 to be longer, it would have more than 21.

 

Quantity doesn't always mean quality. This game is two console generations ahead. Kingdom Hearts III is not using an outdated polygonal model: they've switched to Unreal Engine 4. Because of this, the rendering power for cutscenes and the programming involved with a multi-layered battle system and active time models means that they'll have to decrease the world count in order to make the game functional. If 358/2 Days and Re:Coded cinematics were 3 hours long yet Back Cover is only 1 hour long, what does that tell you about how many worlds are more likely? 

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Quantity doesn't always mean quality. This game is two console generations ahead. Kingdom Hearts III is not using an outdated polygonal model: they've switched to Unreal Engine 4. Because of this, the rendering power for cutscenes and the programming involved with a multi-layered battle system and active time models means that they'll have to decrease the world count in order to make the game functional. If 358/2 Days and Re:Coded cinematics were 3 hours long yet Back Cover is only 1 hour long, what does that tell you about how many worlds are more likely?

Fair point. They might not use that many worlds. We could have thirteen. KH3 could be longer with cutscenes and content from each world than in KH2 though. That's a possibility.

Fair point. They might not use that many worlds. We could have thirteen. KH3 could be longer with cutscenes and content from each world than in KH2 though. That's a possibility.

 

That, and if the returning back to worlds for the storyline feature comes back, it basically means that worlds would inevitably have to be reduced.

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That, and if the returning back to worlds for the storyline feature comes back, it basically means that worlds would inevitably have to be reduced.

It would. We can't underestimate how large KH3 will be though. There are so many questions that will be answered and so much content that will be discussed relating to the Keyblade War, the Foretellers, Master Xehanort's Keyblade, and much more. How could we have reduced content and expect all of us to have our questions answered.

It would. We can't underestimate how large KH3 will be though. There are so many questions that will be answered and so much content that will be discussed relating to the Keyblade War, the Foretellers, Master Xehanort's Keyblade, and much more. How could we have reduced content and expect all of us to have our questions answered.

 

Just because there's less worlds than Kingdom Hearts 2 doesn't mean that there's less content. All the original worlds are primarily lore related anyway.

Just because there's less worlds than Kingdom Hearts 2 doesn't mean that there's less content. All the original worlds are primarily lore related anyway.

Okay. Fair enough.

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