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Did the Org. members really fade away?

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I know that Sora and Riku defeated all of the Organization members. But when they faded away, do you suppose their spirit remained? I think that because, even though Roxas wasn't technically defeated, when he faded back into Sora, his spirit came out at the end of KH2. Same thing with Namin

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Yes because it said when the somebodys heartless and nobody are defeted there somebody will return

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Yes because it said when the somebodys heartless and nobody are defeted there somebody will return

 

like what he said

i was wonderin the same thing!!!!

I agreeeee with Venterrqua

well, if this is true then roxas should be back to normal as ventus at the end of kh2.

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Yes because it said when the somebodys heartless and nobody are defeted there somebody will return

 

But all of the Organization member's somebodies died, didn't they? So, wouldn't they all be dead and go where everybody goes when they die. I thought Xehanort's research of the heart caused some of them to die.

Eh, I think sort of, sort of not.

There's no concept of death in KH, but in Days when Roxas asked what would happen if the members sent to Castle Oblivion really were terminated, he was told that they would cease to exist. That something remained of Somebodies, but nothing of Nobodies.

Also, it's said if someone's 'killed' they fade into darkness, right? So I wouldn't say they're totally gone, but they're probably not capable of moving or thinking or anything. And somehow they'll return to their Somebody selves.

I believe the organization is in the darkness still wondering because there heartless haven't been defeated.

The nobodies wont die if the normal body didnt die

 

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Yes because it said when the somebodys heartless and nobody are defeted there somebody will return

 

But all of the Organization member's somebodies died, didn't they? So, wouldn't they all be dead and go where everybody goes when they die. I thought Xehanort's research of the heart caused some of them to die.

 

Venterraqua is correct, Nomura has said that when the somebodies' heartless and nobody are defeated then their somebody will return.

So,if Sora,or any other person defeats,let's say,Axel's heartless,he will come back as

Lea?

Dude!!! That means KH3 is going to be freakin' awesomer then I thought!!!!! Having all the orgazation's somebody's in there!!! This is gonna be intense ;D

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Dude!!! That means KH3 is going to be freakin' awesomer then I thought!!!!! Having all the orgazation's somebody's in there!!! This is gonna be intense ;D

 

All the organization's somebodies won't all be there. At least I don't think so, if you notice in the japanese bbs cutscenes Demyx, Luxord, Marluxia, and Larxene aren't in any of them. Only Numbers 1-8 are.

wait if the organisation membors died where are all there heartlesses what if they formed a group and sora and co. fight them off and there somebodies come back great scott marty i think i just made a kh3 storyline

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You mean that someone,(like maybe Vanitas,if he re-appears),is trying to revive the organizaton and now Sora and Ven,(if he wakes up and re-appears also)must team up and find those heartless and defeat them and send their heart to Kingdom Hearts,so the Organization can't come back?

i suppose but in the khII manga axel is still sorta alive but just to say one last goodbye to roxas and xion

So,if Sora,or any other person defeats,let's say,Axel's heartless,he will come back as

Lea?

 

 

Yes that would be the case

 

 

Dude!!! That means KH3 is going to be freakin' awesomer then I thought!!!!! Having all the orgazation's somebody's in there!!! This is gonna be intense ;D

 

All the organization's somebodies won't all be there. At least I don't think so, if you notice in the japanese bbs cutscenes Demyx, Luxord, Marluxia, and Larxene aren't in any of them. Only Numbers 1-8 are.

 

Just because that they weren't in BBS doesn't mean that their somebodies can't come back because who knows? Maybe Sora defeated their heartless.

 

wait if the organisation membors died where are all there heartlesses what if they formed a group and sora and co. fight them off and there somebodies come back great scott marty i think i just made a kh3 storyline

 

We do not know if that's going to be the main plot if the Orgainzation Members came back as their somebodies.
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Well, Sora did defeat a lot of heartless. And in bbs, the Organization wasn't even started yet. This was way before they lost their hearts; this was when they were doing the research on the heart. They lose their hearts at the end of bbs.

first of all if the heartless THEN nobody is defeated the somebody will come back.

second, we dont know for sure if we defeated all of the organizations nobodies though it is possible(since there nobodies are just shadow heartless and we defeated like a gazillion of em)

third, kh3 will be about xehanort, norma said so himself he said kh3 will be the end of the xehanort saga

lastly, i doubt ALL of organization 13 will come back and if they do some of them will be just cameo's.

get it got it?

wait so wouldnt this mean xehanort would come back or......

i dont know im stupid :P

first of all if the heartless THEN nobody is defeated the somebody will come back.

second, we dont know for sure if we defeated all of the organizations nobodies though it is possible(since there nobodies are just shadow heartless and we defeated like a gazillion of em)

third, kh3 will be about xehanort, norma said so himself he said kh3 will be the end of the xehanort saga

lastly, i doubt ALL of organization 13 will come back and if they do some of them will be just cameo's.

get it got it?

 

I wished I hadn't read that thing about having them come back as their Somebody after both Heartless + Nobody are defeated. -_- I really should get off forums like this if I hate spoilers.

 

Anyway, Little_Monster? I'm thinkin' you shoulda ended that post with "Got it memorized?" xD

But them coming back as their somebodies makes no sense!

:O

They're hearts were destroyed, and when their nobodies were defeated, their soul was destroyed as well. Seeing as Kingdom Hearts was never completed, they have no new heart, nor do they have their bodies or souls. I don't really think they can come back unless Kingdom Hearts is completed, leaving them to remain in the darkness until then.

^Nomura confirmed that once both a Nobody and a Heartless are destroyed, the somebody comes back. You can't argue with what is confirmed.

 

Now what isn't confirmed..lets say that some of the Org. Members still have Heartless that are alive. If a Nobody is destroyed, its obvious that the body is gone. But what about the thing that gives the body meaning? The soul. I think that the soul can possibly detach from the body after "death", therefore creating a new enemy. So maybe the Org. Members are still alive, at least some of them.

^Nomura confirmed that once both a Nobody and a Heartless are destroyed, the somebody comes back. You can't argue with what is confirmed.

 

Now what isn't confirmed..lets say that some of the Org. Members still have Heartless that are alive. If a Nobody is destroyed, its obvious that the body is gone. But what about the thing that gives the body meaning? The soul. I think that the soul can possibly detach from the body after "death", therefore creating a new enemy. So maybe the Org. Members are still alive, at least some of them.

 

i doubt a new enemy will be created, i think u r complicating this, after the heartless THEN nobody is defeated then the somebody will return period. Thats why xehanort will comeback in kh3 because we defeated his heartless in kh1, then his nobody in kh2, so kh3 his somebody will comeback. Thats when it gets compilicated becuz of terra

the only one we know for sure is comimg back is terranort cuz we killed both his heartless and nobody

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