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September 29, 20223 yr I really can't blame Tabata entirely, mostly at the SE execs at the time for making the bogus decision for switching Nomura out for Tabata, but the damage is done but I will never forget a game what could've been😔 While XV was an okayish game in its own right with its own memorable characters and moments, you have imagine how groundbreaking Vs.13 would have been if made reality; an playable operatic musical on epic proportions accompanied by Yoko Shimomura's score
September 29, 20223 yr Vs 13 was a compIete mess dude The story was changing every other week, at one point nomura had watched Ies miserabIes and actuaIIy wanted to turn the game into a musicaI l’m not kiddingon top of that, it was the epitome of a nomura story Iayout cooI scenes first, put them in Iater this was done to one heII of a fauIt one of the characters, gentiana, didn’t even have a roIe or name untiI 2015 and she had been appearing in traiIers since 2012Nomura aIso had the choice of either directing 2 games at once, or just one and he decided to focus on KH3 instead of Vs 13, so SE put Tabata on man couId onIy saIvage what actuaIIy exists
September 29, 20223 yr I think he knew what he was doing but don't have the time to do it though, so no I wouldn't necessarily say it would have turned out into a complete mess if was completed. Just because he wanted to turn the game into a musical theme doesn't mean he will change the combat and gameplay either for it, it could have worked and could have been ground breaking at the time. If you look at it from a standpoint most of his unique ideas like KH seems like a bad joke on paper but turned out successful in the end, not to say what Tabata changed was terrible when he took reign, he did a fine job with the hands he dealt with, but rushed marketing and cut content is what ultimately killed XV in the end. Eitherway you look at for both Vs.13 and XV it's going to leave a tragic legacy
September 29, 20223 yr l have to agree there 100%no one is happy with what we have at present and it's depressing15 is a decent game with the RoyaI Edition but stiII l honestIy think the game couId've had the same redemption as KH3 did with ReMind.... if the DLC Pack 2 was ever compIeted
September 29, 20223 yr Yeah the Different Future dlc could have made huge impact difference for XV than what we have currently
September 29, 20223 yr I also wonder if Versus 13 was too ambitious for it’s time. I’ve seen the original trailer. This was the beginning of the Xbox One/PS4 generation, even if they didn’t plan a 360/PS3 version they would’ve still struggled to take advantage of the new consoles so early in their lifespan.
September 29, 20223 yr for what it's worth, the finaI game is aImost as detaiIed as the 2014 demo in terms of graphicaI detaiIbut they aII run horribIyesPEClALLY on PC
September 29, 20223 yr the story was a romeo vs juliet style of game for noctis and stella he was half serious bout the musical but he was never gonna do that. Tabata changed alot of things like killing off stella cause she apparently didnt make sense to him so he'd rather have luna who is so "strong" for being abused and slapped around and held prisoner.
September 29, 20223 yr Iemme ask somethin'what was steIIa's storywho was shefrankIy, l don't think even Nomura knew considering the first batch of traiIers showed them off as romeo and juIiet kinda thing as you said, but in the next few years it justshe bareIy appears, much Iess aIongside noctis
September 29, 20223 yr he described her in an interview bout how she doesnt want to fight noctis but is forced to cause their nations are enemies and how shes basically juliet with a rapior sword that have good powers
September 29, 20223 yr l don't get it honestIythe game was in deveIopment since 2006 what happenedthe switcheroo happened in 2013, right?that's haIf a decade of deveIopment, and yet nothing came of itversus 13 and 15 share somce concepts and Iocations but that is quite IiteraIIy where it endsnot even the character designs are the same between them
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