The 76th Cutscene in KH II, Roxas is in the Realm of Darkness, he meets DiZ (I think it is) but no Aqua. Seeing its 10 years+ after BBS "DiZ" is still there so does that mean Aqua has escaped the Realm of Darkness? or what???

Aqua must be somewhere else. And DiZ hasn't entered the Realm yet. The man who meets Roxas is Xemnas, and that scene is supposed to be a dream sequence. Didn't really happen.

Cutscene #582 Sora and Riku is in the realm of darkness? theres no one there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co1TJ3S8flY

 

It helps if you actually post the cutscene. And yes DiZ isn't there yet. Why they didnt meet DiZ or Aqua, I can only assume the were in other parts of the Realm. By the time they found the shores, Sora & Riku had already left.

that wasnt DiZ it was xemnas

The 76th Cutscene in KH II, Roxas is in the Realm of Darkness, he meets DiZ (I think it is) but no Aqua. Seeing its 10 years+ after BBS "DiZ" is still there so does that mean Aqua has escaped the Realm of Darkness? or what???

 

First of all, the scene with Roxas is with Xemnas. And Noruma stated it was more of a dream sequence than anything else. And DiZ hasn't been there since BBS, you know. It's difficult to say exactly what happened to DiZ, but possible theories are that he was transported into Kingdom Hearts, which exists in the realm of darkness or he was transported somewhere else but with his memories fading he found his way to the Dark Meridian. Which is inside the Realm of Darkness. It just seems to be a odd part of it, which is separated from the rest and seems to be devoid of heartless, possibly because it's on the very edge of the realm of darkness. Aqua must have somehow came across it and this is when she met DiZ. Probably a couple of months after the events of KH2 and around the time of Coded. Aqua hasn't got out of the Realm of Darkness though. It's possible that DiZ did have enough power to open a corridor of darkness for her to get out but if he did that hasn't been seen yet.

1. Roxas is talking to Xemnas while at the Dark Margin, not Ansem the Wise.

2. The scene with Ansem and Aqua at the Dark Margin takes place a short time after KH2 (probably during Re:coded).

3. There are two sides of the Dark Margin. One connected to the Realm of Darkness and one connected to the Realm of Nothingness (or was it Realm of In-between?). I'm assuming Sora and Riku was at the coastline in the Realm of Nothingness seeing as they had just fought a battle against Xemnas somewhere else in the Realm of Nothingness. Ansem and Aqua was at the coastline in the Realm of Darkness, and I'm guessing Roxas and Xemnas was at the Realm of Darkness coastline too based on the rock he sits on which is the same as the one Ansem sits on. A small difference between the coastlines are the placement of some of the rocks there.

To put it simply, DiZ wasn't even in the RoD in Days. He didn't get there until KH2. And that scene with DiZ and Aqua takes place after KH2. Aqua and DiZ just missed Sora and Riku. Hope this helps!

she's over here, in my pocket.

That's not DiZ, it's Xemnas. The reason we didn't see Aqua or DiZ in that scene is because neither of them had gotten to the dark meridian yet.

random thought, if in bbs Ansem says it was his second time there, then is it possible that he could be the Mysterious Figure in bbsfm

random thought, if in bbs Ansem says it was his second time there, then is it possible that he could be the Mysterious Figure in bbsfm

 

Im pretty sure he ended up on the Realm after his apprentices banished him and Xehanort took his name.

random thought, if in bbs Ansem says it was his second time there, then is it possible that he could be the Mysterious Figure in bbsfm

 

He said it was his second time on these shores. In Blank Points we see Aqua and Ansem talking at the Dark Margin in the Realm of Darkness. After the events of BbS Ansem was banished from Radiant Garden to the Realm of Nothingness. While being in the Realm of Nothingness he came across a similar shore as the one in the Realm of Darkness.

 

Also how did you get the idea of Ansem being the Mysterious Figure? We've never seen the Mysterious Figure at that coastline nor in the Realm of Darkness.

 

Besides, the Mysterious Figure was confirmed in a recent interview to be the young Master Xehanort from the KH3D Jump Festa trailer.

 

He said it was his second time on these shores. In Blank Points we see Aqua and Ansem talking at the Dark Margin in the Realm of Darkness. After the events of BbS Ansem was banished from Radiant Garden to the Realm of Nothingness. While being in the Realm of Nothingness he came across a similar shore as the one in the Realm of Darkness.

 

Also how did you get the idea of Ansem being the Mysterious Figure? We've never seen the Mysterious Figure at that coastline nor in the Realm of Darkness.

 

Besides, the Mysterious Figure was confirmed in a recent interview to be the young Master Xehanort from the KH3D Jump Festa trailer.

 

 

young master xehanort? that can't be right, at that time there was only one xehanort and that was the old man. the latter xehanort came at the end of bbs by which time the land of departure was destroyed right?

Yen Sid and Mickey discuss where Ven and Aqua are, so possibly aqua is still in the dark realm, maybe not... after all she is a master.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzCiqIG03Yo

young master xehanort? that can't be right, at that time there was only one xehanort and that was the old man. the latter xehanort came at the end of bbs by which time the land of departure was destroyed right?

 

We had several threads about this, yes, Nomura confirmed it to be the man with golden eyes and gray hair from the trailer.

He also confirmed that he has the ability to manipulate time.

It's also being said the fight against Mysterious Figure wasn't canon.

young master xehanort? that can't be right, at that time there was only one xehanort and that was the old man. the latter xehanort came at the end of bbs by which time the land of departure was destroyed right?

 

Nomura confirmed in a recent interview that the young Master Xehanort seen in the KH3D trailer is the same person as the Mysterious Figure from BbS. Most likely he isn't Master Xehanort himself but some variation.

The young Master Xehanort we see in the opening of BbS is most likely a different person from the one shown in the KH3D trailer. The one in BbS we know grow up and became the old Master Xehanort, the one in KH3D is an unknown.

 

It's also being said the fight against Mysterious Figure wasn't canon.

 

That's not been confirmed.

Yes, she is in the realm of darkness from my understandding

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co1TJ3S8flYIt helps if you actually post the cutscene. And yes DiZ isn't there yet. Why they didnt meet DiZ or Aqua, I can only assume the were in other parts of the Realm. By the time they found the shores, Sora & Riku had already left.

when it was diz and aqua that was during sora sleeping when it was riku and sora that was after because birth by sleep is in the past as you should know when you saw young sora and riku. but when aqua got trapped in there sora was still young, so when she was at the shore time had past by some what to the part where sora is in the pod sleeping

Well the realm of darkness is larger than just a shore...I guess she decided to look around and missed the visit...

Heres what happened, in order

 

1: Kh2 ending

 

2: Ansem the wise arrives in the RoD after previously "Blowing up" in The world that Never was. (Arrives either minutes, hours or days after Sora and Riku left)

 

Semi-3: It can be assumed Re:coded take some place during this, as it is right after kh2 yet days before kh2's secret ending.

 

3: Aqua, after walking through the realm of darkness for ten years, gets to the Shore. She sees Ansem and approaches him

 

4: On destiny islands, Sora tells Kairi he has to leave. Probably only a day or so after the secret endings of kh2 and recoded, as I doubt they would need a lot of time to think over the letter.

 

5: Dream Drop Distance

 

6: Aqua looks out to the ocean(Secret ending of DDD) It is unknown whether Ansem is still with her, as he doesn't appear in the short scene.