Alright ladies and gentlemen, I was thinking of this the other day while I was watching an AMV about Axel. This is my theory on who Axel/Lea was protecting. By this, I mean was he protecting Sora, or Roxas? As you know, in the beginning of KH BBS, Ventus was seen on Destiny Island with Master Xehanort. His heart had been split into two parts, one fully of light and another of darkness. While his heart was fractured, he encountered Sora's heart. The two hearts mixed and Ventus was able to be functional again. Since Ventus beared the Keyblade, this allowed Sora to do so as well, if any of you are still wondering why he has that ability. The darkness of Ven, AKA Vanitas, got his appearances from the heart of Sora getting stronger inside of Ventus. When the two clashed at the Keyblade Graveyard, a part of Sora that was inside of Ventus linked to Vanitas, therefore giving him the appearance of the future Sora, much like what was seen with Xion. Skipping ahead a little to Kingdom Hearts, Sora still kept the sleeping heart of Ventus inside of him. In order to rescue Kairi, Sora had to give up his heart. As you all know, when a Heartless is formed from a powerful heart, a Nobody is also formed. Since the remainder of the heart inside of Sora was Ven's, Roxas took the appearance of Ven.

 

Now, here comes the part where Axel is involved. During BBS, Lea and Isa encountered Ventus in Radiant Garden. Lea and Ventus engaged in combat, thus linking the two as friends. Skipping ahead to 358/2 Days, Axel and Roxas are a team in the Organization. Axel continues to mention that Roxas and he were friends before. In this case, he means when the two of them were Lea and Ventus. He doesn't pay much attention to the complete name difference, seeing how all of the Organization members take on a different persona. In Kingdom Hearts Re:CoM, Axel goes against the orders of the Organization to protect Sora. But is he really protecting Sora for the purpose of Kingdom Hearts, or is he doing it for Ventus? Axel knows that Ventus's heart was sleeping inside of Sora, and without Sora's heart to guide Ventus's, Ven could not be awakened. In KH 3D, Axel wakes up in Radiant Garden as Lea. He learns from Ienzo that the ones who were turned into Nobodies from different worlds would recover in a place known as Twilight Town, and that their hearts may still be asleep. Learning this, he seeks guidance from Yen Sid, and takes up the Keyblade, after discovering from Roxas during all of their missions that it is the only weapon that can wake a sleeping heart. So after all of this time, Axel was only trying to find his long lost friend, Ventus. But why would he go so far for Ventus when he barely knew him? Was he following someone's orders, as he always claims to be doing?

 

"There is so much to learn. You understand so little." -Ansem, Seeker of Darkness

Tetsuya Nomura? 

1- Sora does not wield bc of Ven - Nomura said he was always destined to wield and that Ven only gives him the ability to dual wield .

 

2--Roxas looks like Ven bc Ven's heart was literally sleeping inside of him . When Sora released his heart Ven's heart stayed in his body aka Roxas

 

3- Ienzo explained that people revived where they lost their hearts  BUT if that place was somehow destroyed THEN they could revive in places like Traverse Town ( or other places with special properties etc etc ) where misplaced people end up . When nobodies are originally born they turn up in inbetween worlds

 

4- Axel expresses a familiarity with Roxas but he couldn't quite remember or put his finger on it . They met for like 5 minutes YEARS ago . Would YOU remember ? Most likely not .

 

5- Axel in CoM was protecting Sora because he knew Roxas was his nobody. In a way - he was helping Roxas by helping Sora. He eventually took a liking to Sora as well. He had no idea Ven's heart was there at all.

 

I think you are looking a little too into this stuff bc most of what you said is 'reaching " or assuming.

Edited December 22, 201311 yr by Flaming Lea

They Meet Once then didn't lea get his heart stolen after that and became axel ...? why would he do all that for someone he doesn't really know

I like the theory! But no, Im pretty sure Axel helps Sora because of Roxas, and also because Sora is his friend too. Im sure Axel wont remember Ventus until he sees him again.

Okay, I want to start off by saying (for the guy who decided to number his responses)

1- This was not intended to offend ANYONE

2- I think some of you need to look up the word "Theory" and figure out what it means

3- I started by saying it was a thought, therefore, none of this COULD be true

4- I will NOT know  (just like everyone else) what his true intentions or knowledge is/was until the final game in the franchise.

 

Kingdom Hearts has taken many turns, as seen in KH 3D and KH 2. I MAY or MAY NOT be correct in SOME of these thoughts, but WE won't KNOW until the final game of this saga is released and we play it. Again, this is a THEORY. NOT INTENDED TO BE TRUE OR FACTUAL. By the way, this is my first thread on this Forum and I have been a member for some time. Please don't make my opinion ruin your thoughts on the game. I'm sorry if I came off as a know-it-all, but some of the things stated in Flaming Lea's comment were stated in my THEORY. I'm not singling you out or anything, but you seemed offended that I included your favorite character in my THEORY. Please, don't take it the wrong way. I'm sorry if I offended you. Have a nice day.

 

P.S. Lea is my second favorite character in the series behind Ventus, which lead me to this THEORY.

Okay, I want to start off by saying (for the guy who decided to number his responses)

1- This was not intended to offend ANYONE

2- I think some of you need to look up the word "Theory" and figure out what it means

3- I started by saying it was a thought, therefore, none of this COULD be true

4- I will NOT know  (just like everyone else) what his true intentions or knowledge is/was until the final game in the franchise.

 

Kingdom Hearts has taken many turns, as seen in KH 3D and KH 2. I MAY or MAY NOT be correct in SOME of these thoughts, but WE won't KNOW until the final game of this saga is released and we play it. Again, this is a THEORY. NOT INTENDED TO BE TRUE OR FACTUAL. By the way, this is my first thread on this Forum and I have been a member for some time. Please don't make my opinion ruin your thoughts on the game. I'm sorry if I came off as a know-it-all, but some of the things stated in Flaming Lea's comment were stated in my THEORY. I'm not singling you out or anything, but you seemed offended that I included your favorite character in my THEORY. Please, don't take it the wrong way. I'm sorry if I offended you. Have a nice day.

 

P.S. Lea is my second favorite character in the series behind Ventus, which lead me to this THEORY.

 

 

Dude I'm not offended by the slightest xDD I numbered my points to keep it organized . Everything I pointed out were facts. There is nothing wrong with making theories either but be prepared for opposing responses.  Either you took this the wrong way or you were offended somehow by my points. It's all good . I never thought for a moment this was offensive LOL. I also don't need to look up what theory means although you might want to realize that forums are made to discuss so people will discuss. That's the whole point. Calm yo tits

Dude I'm not offended by the slightest xDD I numbered my points to keep it organized . Everything I pointed out were facts. There is nothing wrong with making theories either but be prepared for opposing responses.  Either you took this the wrong way or you were offended somehow by my points. It's all good . I never thought for a moment this was offensive LOL. I also don't need to look up what theory means although you might want to realize that forums are made to discuss so people will discuss. That's the whole point. Calm yo tits

I wasn't offended at all I understand that forums are to discuss. I just felt that it wasn't recognized as a theory. I'm not mad or anything. I just want to make people understand my intentions before they jump to conclusions and say that I'm wrong. I mean who knows, everything in Kingdom Hearts could be a lie.

Tetsuya Nomura? 

No, I'm not Tetsuya lol

I wasn't offended at all I understand that forums are to discuss. I just felt that it wasn't recognized as a theory. I'm not mad or anything. I just want to make people understand my intentions before they jump to conclusions and say that I'm wrong. I mean who knows, everything in Kingdom Hearts could be a lie.

No, I'm not Tetsuya lol

 

I'm pretty sure everyone knows it's a theory. I'm just pointing out reasons why it's prolly not true . Example : Axel has never said he knew Ven's heart was in Roxas or that he even remembered Ven . He knew something felt familiar but he just didn't know what . Because Roxas had a heart he felt something different about him but couldn't quite put his finger on it . Being around someone with a heart made Axel able to finally grow a new heart and being around both Roxas and Sora helped nurture this . They made him feel like a human again with a heart and so he was drawn to both of them ( besides the fact he also helped Sora knowing he was Roxas' other half ) He had spent more time around both of them  then the few minutes he had with Ven . 

I'm pretty sure everyone knows it's a theory. I'm just pointing out reasons why it's prolly not true . Example : Axel has never said he knew Ven's heart was in Roxas or that he even remembered Ven . He knew something felt familiar but he just didn't know what . Because Roxas had a heart he felt something different about him but couldn't quite put his finger on it . Being around someone with a heart made Axel able to finally grow a new heart and being around both Roxas and Sora helped nurture this . They made him feel like a human again with a heart and so he was drawn to both of them ( besides the fact he also helped Sora knowing he was Roxas' other half ) He had spent more time around both of them  then the few minutes he had with Ven . 

Like I said, there have been a lot of twists in Kingdom Hearts. Just because Axel never mentioned that he knew Ven doesn't mean that your statement is true. Yen Sid is all knowing, but there is a LOTthat he hasn't mentioned.... I feel like you're offended buddy.

Like I said, there have been a lot of twists in Kingdom Hearts. Just because Axel never mentioned that he knew Ven doesn't mean that your statement is true. Yen Sid is all knowing, but there is a LOTthat he hasn't mentioned.... I feel like you're offended buddy.

 

One, I am female . Two I am not offended . I am just stating my opinion . I'm not sure why you feel this would be offending . I am perplexed on that . So basically , because there is absolutely no proof or in game material ever presented or hinted at that even points to this being correct, somehow I'm upset for pointing this out ? LOL ok then .

Also, if I remember correctly, there are two ways that someone can become a Keyblade bearer. The right of passage and by touthing one, like Kairi did with Aqua. Aqua never did the right of passage. She only instilled her with the magic to free a sleeping heart. Such magic was seen when Kairi's pendant flashed and brought back sora from his Heartless form in KH 1. Terra did the right of passage on Riku, which is why he can weild the Keyblade. However, because Kairi came in contact with Aqua's keyblade, she was able to weild one for herself in KH 2. And that is also why Yen Sid ordered her summoning at the Mysterious tower at the end of KH 3D. Because Ven has the ability to weild the keyblade and Sora's heart is connected to Ven's, he is able to weild the Keyblade. Sora never came in contact with a Keyblade. He was being swallowed by darkness, and his heart opened up to his abilities (granted by Ven) so that he could summon the Keyblade.

One, I am female . Two I am not offended . I am just stating my opinion . I'm not sure why you feel this would be offending . I am perplexed on that . So basically , because there is absolutely no proof or in game material ever presented or hinted at that even points to this being correct, somehow I'm upset for pointing this out ? LOL ok then .

Oh, you're a girl? I'm sorry for calling you a guy name. Didn't mean to. It's kinda cool that a girl is as huge of a fan as you are. I've only met one girl like you, and she works at the Gamestop in my home town. Anyways, back to topic. If you can find any in-game proof that your statements are true, then I will submit 100% to that truth. I'm not proving that my theory is true, because as I said before, it's a theory. However, I don't recall ever hearing Axel state his thoughts about him protecting Sora because of Roxas. I DO, however, remember him wanting Roxas back from Sora. So if he wanted the Nobody of Sora, why would he protect him?

I just go with the KH~flow, and take it as it comes. 

Since I didn't even notice 90% of this..... >..>

Also, if I remember correctly, there are two ways that someone can become a Keyblade bearer. The right of passage and by touthing one, like Kairi did with Aqua. Aqua never did the right of passage. She only instilled her with the magic to free a sleeping heart. Such magic was seen when Kairi's pendant flashed and brought back sora from his Heartless form in KH 1. Terra did the right of passage on Riku, which is why he can weild the Keyblade. However, because Kairi came in contact with Aqua's keyblade, she was able to weild one for herself in KH 2. And that is also why Yen Sid ordered her summoning at the Mysterious tower at the end of KH 3D. Because Ven has the ability to weild the keyblade and Sora's heart is connected to Ven's, he is able to weild the Keyblade. Sora never came in contact with a Keyblade. He was being swallowed by darkness, and his heart opened up to his abilities (granted by Ven) so that he could summon the Keyblade.

 

 

Q6: Why did Kairi end up with Sora and Riku?

A: It has to do with Aqua�s �magic�.

 

Nine years before KH, Kairi was thrust into the outside world, and found herself on Sora and Riku�s world. Ansem Seeker of Darkness thought that she had been able to search for a keyblade wielder, but what actually saved her was the magic spell Aqua had put on her.

 

[picture: Little Kairi]

Aqua: �Someday your light will lead you to a light that will protect you from the darkness.�

 

The magic Aqua puts on Kairi saves her once year later.

 

[picture: Ansem Report]

 

Ansem Seeker of Darkness felt a special power within Kairi and tried to use her to find the keyblade.

 

 

Q7: Why can Kairi use a keyblade?

A: Because she was touched by Aqua�s keyblade.

 

The keyblade inheritance ceremony is performed with a keyblade master touches someone using a keyblade. When Kairi was running away from the Unversed in BbS she grabbed Aqua�s keyblade, which performed the ceremony. That is why she is able to use a keyblade in KHII to help Sora.

 

[picture: Little Kairi and Aqua]

 

Kairi touching Aqua�s keyblade.

 

[pictures: Kairi with keyblade, Aqua with keyblade]

 

The keyblade Kairi uses is the same with Aqua receives after talking to Kairi: Destiny Place.

 

 

Actually Aqua's magic helped Kairi lead herself to the light that would protect her . When ansem tossed her asunder she was magically lead to Sora and Riku . This magic also lead her heart to hide in Sora who protected it . Aqua gave kairi the rite accidently when she touched her keyblade. Kairi's status as a PoH brought Sora back from a shadow plus their special connection lead her to be able to reach out and pull him back to her and then she purified him as a PoH and gave him human form 

 

 

Nomura has also said himself Ven only gives Sora the ability to dual wield . That is why when Roxas had Ven's heart Sora still was able to wield when they were separated all the way till they were reunited in KH2. So you have Nomura's words and In game content all proving  Sora does not need Ven to wield and wields his own keyblade plus dual wields with Ven's. Nomura's words were Ven gives him nothing but a second keyblade. Also Nomura also stated Sora is the only wielder to wield without the ceremony . Nomura=  canon

 

Oh, you're a girl? I'm sorry for calling you a guy name. Didn't mean to. It's kinda cool that a girl is as huge of a fan as you are. I've only met one girl like you, and she works at the Gamestop in my home town. Anyways, back to topic. If you can find any in-game proof that your statements are true, then I will submit 100% to that truth. I'm not proving that my theory is true, because as I said before, it's a theory. However, I don't recall ever hearing Axel state his thoughts about him protecting Sora because of Roxas. I DO, however, remember him wanting Roxas back from Sora. So if he wanted the Nobody of Sora, why would he protect him?

 Read the secret reports in Days plus the fact in CoM Axel talks about his fascination with Sora for many reasons. It's heavily hinted. Plus why else do you think he died for Sora in KH2? He had given up his plans to bring Roxas back at that point . He was fully aware of Sora's importance to Roxas . He even stated in CoM he was worth saving - there is a major reason why.

Edited December 22, 201311 yr by Flaming Lea

Q6: Why did Kairi end up with Sora and Riku?

A: It has to do with Aqua�s �magic�.

 

Nine years before KH, Kairi was thrust into the outside world, and found herself on Sora and Riku�s world. Ansem Seeker of Darkness thought that she had been able to search for a keyblade wielder, but what actually saved her was the magic spell Aqua had put on her.

 

[picture: Little Kairi]

Aqua: �Someday your light will lead you to a light that will protect you from the darkness.�

 

The magic Aqua puts on Kairi saves her once year later.

 

[picture: Ansem Report]

 

Ansem Seeker of Darkness felt a special power within Kairi and tried to use her to find the keyblade.

 

 

Q7: Why can Kairi use a keyblade?

A: Because she was touched by Aqua�s keyblade.

 

The keyblade inheritance ceremony is performed with a keyblade master touches someone using a keyblade. When Kairi was running away from the Unversed in BbS she grabbed Aqua�s keyblade, which performed the ceremony. That is why she is able to use a keyblade in KHII to help Sora.

 

[picture: Little Kairi and Aqua]

 

Kairi touching Aqua�s keyblade.

 

[pictures: Kairi with keyblade, Aqua with keyblade]

 

The keyblade Kairi uses is the same with Aqua receives after talking to Kairi: Destiny Place.

 

 

Actually Aqua's magic helped Kairi lead herself to the light that would protect her . When ansem tossed her asunder she was magically lead to Sora and Riku . This magic also lead her heart to hide in Sora who protected it . Aqua gave kairi the rite accidently when she touched her keyblade. Kairi's status as a PoH brought Sora back from a shadow plus their special connection lead her to be able to reach out and pull him back to her and then she purified him as a PoH and gave him human form 

 

 

Nomura has also said himself Ven only gives Sora the ability to dual wield . That is why when Roxas had Ven's heart Sora still was able to wield when they were separated all the way till they were reunited in KH2. So you have Nomura's words and In game content all proving  Sora does not need Ven to wield and wields his own keyblade plus dual wields with Ven's. Nomura's words were Ven gives him nothing but a second keyblade. Also Nomura also stated Sora is the only wielder to wield without the ceremony . Nomura=  canon

 

 Read the secret reports in Days plus the fact in CoM Axel talks about his fascination with Sora for many reasons. It's heavily hinted. Plus why else do you think he died for Sora in KH2? He had given up his plans to bring Roxas back at that point . He was fully aware of Sora's importance to Roxas . He even stated in CoM he was worth saving - there is a major reason why.

So, I was correct about why Kairi is able to use the Keyblade, but where does he say the part about Ven and Roxas?.....

So, I was correct about why Kairi is able to use the Keyblade, but where does he say the part about Ven and Roxas?.....

 

 

Not in that part . I have to dig through many interviews.  You said : "Aqua never did the right of passage. She only instilled her with the magic to free a sleeping heart. Such magic was seen when Kairi's pendant flashed and brought back sora from his Heartless form " It was NOT aqua's magic that brought Sora back from a shadow .It was Kairi's Status as a PoH and their connection

 

also here's some more .I have to dig through all these interviews 

 

 

Q4: Why can Roxas dual-wield?

A: Because he can use both Sora�s and Ventus� keyblades.

 

Sora can wield two keyblades at once because he has Ventus� as well as his own. As Roxas is a part of Sora, he also can use two. In Days Roxas awakened his ability to dual wield after fighting Xion. In KHII once Sora absorbs him, he can also dual-wield.

 

� So, it�s not that �once Sora�s story is over the story of a new hero will begin�, but that the series will always have Sora as the hero, isn�t it? 

Nomura: Yeah. One of the concepts of the series is that the hero Sora isn�t some special being, but a normal boy. Sure, his heart is connected to Ventus and the others, but other than that, he�s a normal kid that could have come from anywhere, that hasn�t inherited anything from anyone. Ven only allows the ability to dual wield. I want to make Sora a character that will give the player the feeling that �even if I�m not some special being, I have the possibility buried inside of connecting with many others to accomplish things�. In Birth by Sleep, I wish for all the fans to hope to see that Sora reappears. The secret cutscene is what symbolizes this, and so please work your way there, and wait for Sora�s role in the future.

 

 

• This time we saw the “Bequeathing”. Is that a required condition for becoming a Keyblade user?

That’s essentially correct. In terms of the Bequeathing itself, the successee just has to make the successor grasp their Keyblade—if this rite is performed by a Keyblade Master, and if they have suitable power, the Keyblade could choose that person as a Keyblade user, and appear before them. Terra, Ventus; all have passed this rite. Sora is the only exception.

 

 

There's also one where he talks about how it's his destiny but I have to keep on digging to find every single thing when you can just try and actually read the interviews all archived here and on gamefaqs .

Edited December 22, 201311 yr by Flaming Lea

I'm just gonna go off of what I know about Kingdom Hearts. I have Played every game, read each and every interview, read every one of Ansem's, Xehanort's, and Xemnas's reports and letters. I have also read the complete diaries on KH 358/2. And, I have watched the Kingdom Hearts timeline, which goes in depth with the entire story and all of it's secrets. But, there is no sputing you. If there is one thing that I have learned in life, it's to not argue with women.

I'm just gonna go off of what I know about Kingdom Hearts. I have Played every game, read each and every interview, read every one of Ansem's, Xehanort's, and Xemnas's reports and letters. I have also read the complete diaries on KH 358/2. And, I have watched the Kingdom Hearts timeline, which goes in depth with the entire story and all of it's secrets. But, there is no sputing you. If there is one thing that I have learned in life, it's to not argue with women.

 

Dude and you think I have not ? I just dug out all this interview stuff for you to help you out and prove my point. You asked for interviews and I gave them . It takes quite some time to dig through all the interviews but I did it bc you asked . I'm not making this stuff up .Just sayin'. Anyways, it's always nice to see another Lea fan !