Why did the Princesses of Heart not age between khbbs and kh1?

[AlixtheMagi13 245]

Whenever you play bbs you come to the worlds of a few princesses like Cinderella. The real question is a huge plot hole, they LOOK exactly the same as they did in Kingdom Hearts 1. Is it a huge plot hole,or was square too lazy to make longer character models?

I know that Kingdom Hearts 1 came before Birth by Sleep, but still bbs takes place 10 years before hand. They should at least look a few years younger.

[Ruby Rose 8,591]

Unless you're Kairi, Sora, Riku, Hercules, or a future Organization XIII Member, you did not age from Birth by Sleep to the first game

 

Nomura illogic

[EternalChange 303]

Girls usually finish puberty long before guys, and the time from 20-30 doesn't usually involve very much biological change, especially if you're pampered like the princesses are. So I think the princesses looking pretty much the same in BBS isn't entirely unrealistic.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Time moves differently in different worlds. ( Nomura's words) They even talk about this in DDD.

[AlixtheMagi13 245]

Thank you so much. It was something I noticed just recently and just was confused on why they made no small change for kh1 to khbbs even if one game takes place 10 years before hand.

[Dave 5,715]

Girls usually finish puberty long before guys, and the time from 20-30 doesn't usually involve very much biological change, especially if you're pampered like the princesses are. So I think the princesses looking pretty much the same in BBS isn't entirely unrealistic.

 

Woah, now. Cinderella spent the majority of her life in indentured servitude with an extreme emotionally abusive environment, and Snow White didn't have it too easy herself. The only one who might be considered pampered is Aurora, if only because she grew up in the most stable environment, and even then, she spent the better part of her life in a minimalist environment in the woods.

[Forever 3,550]

Like Yen Sid, they use a very special age-defying creme. Even at 312, he's still perky and goin' strong!

[Firaga 5,947]

Time moves differently in different worlds. ( Nomura's words) They even talk about this in DDD.

 

Basically this.

 

Also, Disney characters don't age past their initial design and appearance in the series, except Mickey and his group, I guess, because Timeless River was a thing. It's not because age shouldn't be taken into account for them or anything, it's just that, well, it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things anyway.

Edited January 10, 2015 by Firaga Sensei

[Philip Ellwell 5,487]

They were in suspended sleep: they're all probably still the ages they were in BBS, so, as example, Cinderella is probably 17 or 18 in KH1, and 15 or 16 in BBS. Assuming they were kidnapped closely after BBS, then they didn't age at all. 

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

They were in suspended sleep: they're all probably still the ages they were in BBS, so, as example, Cinderella is probably 17 or 18 in KH1, and 15 or 16 in BBS. Assuming they were kidnapped closely after BBS, then they didn't age at all. 

 

Ummm the princesses weren't kidnapped until KH1 so no.

[Philip Ellwell 5,487]

Ummm the princesses weren't kidnapped until KH1 so no.

I don't remember if they said when they were kidnapped in KH1: the first few were taken before Sora got involved. 

Cinderella, Aurora, and Snow White were already in Hollow Bastion in KH1, insinuating they were taken sometime before Sora's world was destroyed, I thought.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

I don't remember if they said when they were kidnapped in KH1: the first few were taken before Sora got involved. 

Cinderella, Aurora, and Snow White were already in Hollow Bastion in KH1, insinuating they were taken sometime before Sora's world was destroyed, I thought.

 

Not at all. What do you think Maleficent and Riku were doing? Collecting them. Even Maleficent said 'it would take them time" to collect them.

[Philip Ellwell 5,487]

Not at all. What do you think Maleficent and Riku were doing? Collecting them. Even Maleficent said 'it would take them time" to collect them.

Huh.

I always thought it was Alice onward they were collecting, not the first few. 

Learn something new everyday. 

[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

Not at all. What do you think Maleficent and Riku were doing? Collecting them. Even Maleficent said 'it would take them time" to collect them.

Yeppers!

 

 

I don't remember if they said when they were kidnapped in KH1: the first few were taken before Sora got involved. 

Cinderella, Aurora, and Snow White were already in Hollow Bastion in KH1, insinuating they were taken sometime before Sora's world was destroyed, I thought.

^ Edited January 10, 2015 by devereauxr

[hatok 6,413]

You can see Snow White get captured instead of Alice depending on the order you dot he worlds in in KH1

[Dracozombie 4,554]

Disney characters who age are a rare breed.

[Philip Ellwell 5,487]

You can see Snow White get captured instead of Alice depending on the order you dot he worlds in in KH1

Holy crap, really?

I didn't know that. What order do you have to do the worlds in to see that?

[hatok 6,413]

Holy crap, really?

I didn't know that. What order do you have to do the worlds in to see that?

just don't complete Wonderland before the cutscene triggers

[Philip Ellwell 5,487]

just don't complete Wonderland before the cutscene triggers

How can you get the cutscene without completing Wonderland? Doesn't it play after your first completed world? 

[hatok 6,413]

How can you get the cutscene without completing Wonderland? Doesn't it play after your first completed world? 

you can go to Olympus Coliseum or Wonderland

[Philip Ellwell 5,487]

you can go to Olympus Coliseum or Wonderland

Got it. 

I'll have to try it next time I play.

[Isamu Kuno 2,512]

Because they're Disney characters. Disney characters don't age, unless they did so in their original movie (they could have used Cinderella's childhood design in BbS, but then there'd be no story). Square also probably didn't want to mess around with their designs out of respect for Disney.

 

There is that whole "time moves differently between worlds" angle but my interpretation is different from most. I think time moves at the same rate universally, but each world stays in their own era. For example, Enchanted Dominion is permanently stuck in the 14th century while Deep Jungle is always in the 1930s.

 

But yeah, unless you a KH original character, a Final Fantasy character or you age in your original movie, you don't age in KH.

Edited January 11, 2015 by Isamu_Kuno

[Philip Ellwell 5,487]

Because they're Disney characters. Disney characters don't age, unless they did so in their original movie (they could have used Cinderella's childhood design in BbS, but then there'd be no story). Square also probably didn't want to mess around with their designs out of respect for Disney.

 

There is that whole "time moves differently between worlds" angle but my interpretation is different from most. I think time moves at the same rate universally, but each world stays in their own era. For example, Enchanted Dominion is permanently stuck in the 14th century while Deep Jungle is always in the 1930s.

 

But yeah, unless you a KH original character, a Final Fantasy character or you age in your original movie, you don't age in KH.

Cinderella aged by a year in those sequels they did, though

[Isamu Kuno 2,512]

Cinderella aged by a year in those sequels they did, though

Yes, but she still looked exactly the same as in the first one so the model wouldn't have changed. She was 19 in the first one, there's is much less of a physical difference between 19 and 20 than there is between 14 and 15 or 15 and 16. Main reason Sora, Riku, Kairi and Namine grew so much during a year was puberty.

Edited January 11, 2015 by Isamu_Kuno

[Philip Ellwell 5,487]

Yes, but she still looked exactly the same as in the first one so the model wouldn't have changed. She was 19 in the first one, there's is much less of a physical difference between 19 and 20 than there is between 14 and 15 or 15 and 16. Main reason Sora, Riku, Kairi and Namine grew so much during a year was puberty.

True, true. 

And in the 3rd one there was some crap about time travel, so she's probably 19 again anyway, and BBS doesn't mention or deal with Cinderella 2 and 3.

But I still say Kairi looks a little older than 15: those..ahem...objects on her chest are slightly big for that age, and Riku is possibly the worlds tallest 15 year old. Only Sora looks 15.