Master Eraqus 1,340 Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) Seeing how complicated Kingdom Hearts is, as we all should know by know but I personally enjoy its complexity, we all come across some misconceptions every once in a while, or we are the very people we spread or believe misconceptions. I want to ask you what is the most common misconception you keep finding on the internet and/or real life. Here's an example: The most common misconception I personally find is that some people believe that yellow eyes means that you have been exposed to the darkness. As we should know, that is not the case. I'm curious and I desire answers. Edited June 1, 2015 by Master Eraqus 3 Yuya Sakaki, luka and irinasi reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yuya Sakaki 5,212 Posted June 1, 2015 That Sora can wield the Keyblade because of Ventus. We all know that isn't really the case. Peace! 3 luka, HarLea Quinn and AlixtheMagi13 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Javelin434 3,164 Posted June 1, 2015 Kairi is irrelevant to the KH series. Times like that I just wanna cave their faces in... I've seen people claim that Kairi got her keyblade from Riku, when in reality she got it accidentally from Aqua... 3 AlixtheMagi13, Blooming Marluxia and Yuya Sakaki reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Eraqus 1,340 Posted June 1, 2015 That Sora can wield the Keyblade because of Ventus. We all know that isn't really the case.Peace! Well, the reason he can wield the Keyblade is partially, not fully, because of Ventus, at least that's what I recall. But we can all agree that he's the reason Sora can dual-wield Keyblades. 2 Henne and Yuya Sakaki reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pokemoncuzzie 271 Posted June 1, 2015 One misconception I had that there were two forms of Kingdom Hearts. There is actually three ahaahah Well, the reason he can wield the Keyblade is partially, not fully, because of Ventus, at least that's what I recall. But we can all agree that he's the reason Sora can dual-wield Keyblades. I used to think it was Roxas that allowed Sora to dual-wield? But I guess Ventus makes sense too. More sense now that I think about it. 4 Blooming Marluxia, luka, AlixtheMagi13 and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yuya Sakaki 5,212 Posted June 1, 2015 Well, the reason he can wield the Keyblade is partially, not fully, because of Ventus, at least that's what I recall. But we can all agree that he's the reason Sora can dual-wield Keyblades.Yeah. We all know Sora can dual-wield due to the presence of Ven's heart in Sora, but it was his destiny to wield the Keyblade in the first place. :)Peace! 2 Blooming Marluxia and AlixtheMagi13 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Eraqus 1,340 Posted June 1, 2015 Yeah. We all know Sora can dual-wield due to the presence of Ven's heart in Sora, but it was his destiny to wield the Keyblade in the first place. :)Peace! True, but we have to remember that Sora's Keyblade was originally meant to be Riku's. 2 Yuya Sakaki and Mystics Apprentice reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pokemoncuzzie 271 Posted June 1, 2015 Hold on. Doesn't a keyblade need to be passed on by a master or something like that. I guess Sora is an exception to that rule cause no one passed him the keyblade. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Eraqus 1,340 Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) Hold on. Doesn't a keyblade need to be passed on by a master or something like that. I guess Sora is an exception to that rule cause no one passed him the keyblade. Yes! I get to explain something of KH. I love doing that! By the end of BBS, Ventus' heart moved on to Sora. Through this, Sora had the ability, but not the right, to wield a Keyblade and the ability to wield Ventus' Keyblade. In Kingdom Hearts 1, when Destiny Islands is being destroyed, Riku was corrupted/taken over by the darkness. We must remember that Riku already had the right to wield a Keyblade because of Terra, through the Keyblade Inheritance Ceremony. Because of his corruption to the darkness, Riku's Keyblade sensed Sora's light and moved on to Sora, temporarily. When Sora arrives at Hollow Bastion, Riku takes back what is his: his Keyblade. When Sora encounters Riku once again and rejoins with Donald and Goofy, after Sora's speech, Riku's Keyblade realises that Sora should be its true master and goes back to Sora for good. Edited June 1, 2015 by Master Eraqus 3 Yuya Sakaki, Pokemoncuzzie and AlixtheMagi13 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deadpool 1,200 Posted June 1, 2015 People calling the series "Kingdom of Hearts" and also believing Roxas and Ventus are the same person, though the latter is pretty justified considering the only thing different about them is their personalities. 1 Yuya Sakaki reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pokemoncuzzie 271 Posted June 1, 2015 Yes! I get to explain something of KH. I love doing that! By the end of BBS, Ventus' heart moved on to Sora. Through this, Sora had the ability, but not the right, to wield a Keyblade and the ability to wield Ventus' Keyblade. In Kingdom Hearts 1, when Destiny Islands is being destroyed, Riku was corrupted/taken over by the darkness. We must remember that Riku already had the right to wield a Keyblade because of Terra, through the Keyblade Inheritance Ceremony. Because of his corruption to the darkness, Riku's Keyblade sensed Sora's light and moved on to Sora, temporarily. When Sora arrives at Hollow Bastion, Riku takes back what is his: his Keyblade. When Sora encounters Riku once again and rejoins with Donald and Goofy, after Sora's speech, Riku's Keyblade realises that Sora should be its true master and goes back to Sora for good. Ikr, explaining anything KH is awesome. And so is your explanation (that transition) Yep, makes a lot of sense. Guess the keyblade is more complex than more other special weapons in video games. Nice! 1 Master Eraqus reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Eraqus 1,340 Posted June 1, 2015 Ikr, explaining anything KH is awesome. And so is your explanation (that transition) Yep, makes a lot of sense. Guess the keyblade is more complex than more other special weapons in video games. Nice! Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aqua7KH 5,395 Posted June 1, 2015 The most common misconception is easily that people try to think KH isn't that confusing when in reality the story is a giant clusterfiretruck 7 Blooming Marluxia, Pokemoncuzzie, PieLuvah and 4 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) Yes! I get to explain something of KH. I love doing that! By the end of BBS, Ventus' heart moved on to Sora. Through this, Sora had the ability, but not the right, to wield a Keyblade and the ability to wield Ventus' Keyblade. In Kingdom Hearts 1, when Destiny Islands is being destroyed, Riku was corrupted/taken over by the darkness. We must remember that Riku already had the right to wield a Keyblade because of Terra, through the Keyblade Inheritance Ceremony. Because of his corruption to the darkness, Riku's Keyblade sensed Sora's light and moved on to Sora, temporarily. When Sora arrives at Hollow Bastion, Riku takes back what is his: his Keyblade. When Sora encounters Riku once again and rejoins with Donald and Goofy, after Sora's speech, Riku's Keyblade realises that Sora should be its true master and goes back to Sora for good. Actually it has NEVER been stated that Ven's heart had anything to do with Sora having the ability.That is a fan based assumption. Nomura has stated that it was always Sora's destiny to wield. It might have even been the reason Ven's heart found Sora for help and refuge in the first place. We do know Ven is the reason Sora can dual wield though. Keep in mind also in KH1 the character of Ven wasn't even thought of yet to begin with and KH1 originally was set up to be a standalone game with the possibility of a sequel if successful. -Even though Riku was the rightful owner of the Keyblade, then why did Sora obtain the Keyblade in the beginning? Nomura: Even though I would like to keep that obscure, there is a scene in Destiny islands where Riku is being swallowed by darkness, a light appears, and Sora first obtains the keyblade. With the setting I created, the darkness that surrounds them is Riku’s heart’s darkness. At that moment, Sora enters the darkness, and the light he sees inside is Riku’s heart’s light. Sora, who was squirming in the darkness to save Riku, touched the light and temporarily obtained the Keyblade from Riku. ---Does not the Keyblade itself choose its owner? Nomura: The Keyblade reacts to the rightful owner’s heart and appears to them. Even though it was definitely Riku who called the Keyblade towards him, the reason why Sora was able to weild it was because he also had the right qualities too. So, it’s not that “once Sora’s story is over the story of a new hero will begin”, but that the series will always have Sora as the hero, isn’t it?Yeah. One of the concepts of the series is that the hero Sora isn’t some special being, but a normal boy. Sure, his heart is connected to Ventus and the others, but other than that, he’s a normal kid that could have come from anywhere, that hasn’t inherited anything from anyone. I want to make Sora a character that will give the player the feeling that “even if I’m not some special being, I have the possibility buried inside of connecting with many others to accomplish things”. In Birth by Sleep, I wish for all the fans to hope to see that Sora reappears. The secret cutscene is what symbolizes this, and so please work your way there, and wait for Sora’s role in the future. 4: Why can Roxas dual-wield? Because he can use both Sora’s and Ventus’s Keyblades. Sora can wield two Keyblades at once because he has Ventus’s as well as his own. As Roxas is a part of Sora, he also can use two. In Days, Roxas awakened his ability to dual-wield after fighting Xion. In KHII, once Sora absorbed Roxas, he could also dual-wield. Roxas awoke his ability to dual-wield through his will to not forget Xion, who also wielded a Keyblade. Other misconceptions- that Roxas wielded Xion's keyblade as his second one. Hers was merely a replica. Her death awakened the ability in Roxas to use Ven's. We have yet to see the real KH -- all previous ones were manufactured or incomplete. And yes Sora is the only exception about receiving the ceremony noted : This time we saw the “Bequeathing”. Is that a required condition for becoming a Keyblade user?That’s essentially correct. In terms of the Bequeathing itself, the successee just has to make the successor grasp their Keyblade–if this rite is performed by a Keyblade Master, and if they have suitable power, the Keyblade could choose that person as a Keyblade user, and appear before them. Terra, Ventus; all have passed this rite. Sora is the only exception. Edited June 1, 2015 by Flaming Lea 9 Cricket, King Demise, Nero Kunivas and 6 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Eraqus 1,340 Posted June 1, 2015 Actually it has NEVER been stated that Ven's heart had anything to do with Sora having the ability.That is a fan based assumption. Nomura has stated that it was always Sora's destiny to wield. It might have even been the reason Ven's heart found Sora for help and refuge in the first place. We do know Ven is the reason Sora can dual wield though. Keep in mind also in KH1 the character of Ven wasn't even thought of yet to begin with and KH1 originally was set up to be a standalone game with the possibility of a sequel if successful. -Even though Riku was the rightful owner of the Keyblade, then why did Sora obtain the Keyblade in the beginning? Nomura: Even though I would like to keep that obscure, there is a scene in Destiny islands where Riku is being swallowed by darkness, a light appears, and Sora first obtains the keyblade. With the setting I created, the darkness that surrounds them is Riku’s heart’s darkness. At that moment, Sora enters the darkness, and the light he sees inside is Riku’s heart’s light. Sora, who was squirming in the darkness to save Riku, touched the light and temporarily obtained the Keyblade from Riku. ---Does not the Keyblade itself choose its owner? Nomura: The Keyblade reacts to the rightful owner’s heart and appears to them. Even though it was definitely Riku who called the Keyblade towards him, the reason why Sora was able to weild it was because he also had the right qualities too. So, it’s not that “once Sora’s story is over the story of a new hero will begin”, but that the series will always have Sora as the hero, isn’t it?Yeah. One of the concepts of the series is that the hero Sora isn’t some special being, but a normal boy. Sure, his heart is connected to Ventus and the others, but other than that, he’s a normal kid that could have come from anywhere, that hasn’t inherited anything from anyone. I want to make Sora a character that will give the player the feeling that “even if I’m not some special being, I have the possibility buried inside of connecting with many others to accomplish things”. In Birth by Sleep, I wish for all the fans to hope to see that Sora reappears. The secret cutscene is what symbolizes this, and so please work your way there, and wait for Sora’s role in the future. 4: Why can Roxas dual-wield? Because he can use both Sora’s and Ventus’s Keyblades. Sora can wield two Keyblades at once because he has Ventus’s as well as his own. As Roxas is a part of Sora, he also can use two. In Days, Roxas awakened his ability to dual-wield after fighting Xion. In KHII, once Sora absorbed Roxas, he could also dual-wield. Roxas awoke his ability to dual-wield through his will to not forget Xion, who also wielded a Keyblade. And yes Sora is the only exception about receiving the ceremony noted : This time we saw the “Bequeathing”. Is that a required condition for becoming a Keyblade user?That’s essentially correct. In terms of the Bequeathing itself, the successee just has to make the successor grasp their Keyblade–if this rite is performed by a Keyblade Master, and if they have suitable power, the Keyblade could choose that person as a Keyblade user, and appear before them. Terra, Ventus; all have passed this rite. Sora is the only exception. I had a feeling you'd be here. Well then, thanks for bringing this up and making sure I didn't spread around a misconception myself. 1 Blooming Marluxia reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted June 1, 2015 I had a feeling you'd be here. Well then, thanks for bringing this up and making sure I didn't spread around a misconception myself. Of course you would find me here You are welcome my friend! 4 Robbie the Wise, luka, Blooming Marluxia and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Eraqus 1,340 Posted June 1, 2015 Of course you would find me here You are welcome my friend! So seeing that you have explained misconceptions on Kingdom Hearts numerous times, which is the one you encounter the most, cause I'm really curious. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaweebo 3,617 Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) The most common misconception I see is that people think they can just play KH1 and 2, or start at 2 and continue on from there and the story still makes sense. While every chapter of KH is essential to understand, I don't believe that every game should be mandatory, such as CoM, 358 or Coded. However, BBS and DDD are mandatory titles in my opinion as you can't fully grasp their significance from reading a simple journal entry about them. To truly understand how important they are, you'd have to play them yourselves and the same goes doubly so for Kingdom Hearts and Kingdom Hearts II. The Most Important Kingdom Hearts -- Kingdom Hearts II -- Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep -- Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance Optional (But still important to the overall story) Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories -- Kingdom Hearts: 358/2 Days -- Kingdom Hearts: Coded Edited June 1, 2015 by Kaweebo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) So seeing that you have explained misconceptions on Kingdom Hearts numerous times, which is the one you encounter the most, cause I'm really curious. I had edited my previous post to add some but I'm sure you missed it .Plus I'll add a few more : Other misconceptions- that Roxas wielded Xion's keyblade as his second one. Hers was merely a replica. Her death awakened the ability in Roxas to use Ven's. We have yet to see the real KH -- all previous ones were manufactured or incomplete. The voice in KH1 is Mickey NOT Ven. Lingering Will is NOT Terra's soul...The soul never leaves the body or you are dead. It's the body's life force. The spot Riku and Sora arrived in the end of KH2 was not the same place as Aqua and Ansem : What can be called the dark coastline seen at the beginning and end of KHII is the tip of a world. It is not strictly part of the realm of darkness but rather what serves as the boundary line in between the dark and the in-between. In the ending, Sora and Riku were on the coast on the in-between side and were looking at the sea of the realm of darkness. The door visible in the dark sea is a scene that symbolizes "Deep within the darkness, there is light", as Sora said in the previous KH. Terra DIDN'T steal Aurora's heart : He was just tricked into thinking so. It was MX and Maleficent. It wasn't Terra's darkness manifested in his MoM. He was framed by Xehanort so Eraqus would fail him. There's prolly more but these are off the top of my head. Edited June 1, 2015 by Flaming Lea 6 Cricket, Robbie the Wise, Yuya Sakaki and 3 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yuya Sakaki 5,212 Posted June 1, 2015 I had edited my previous post to add some but I'm sure you missed it .Plus I'll add a few more : Other misconceptions- that Roxas wielded Xion's keyblade as his second one. Hers was merely a replica. Her death awakened the ability in Roxas to use Ven's. We have yet to see the real KH -- all previous ones were manufactured or incomplete. The voice in KH1 is Mickey NOT Ven. Lingering Will is NOT Terra's soul...The soul never leaves the body or you are dead. It's the body's life force. The spot Riku and Sora arrived in the end of KH2 was not the same place as Aqua and Ansem :What can be called the dark coastline seen at the beginning and end of KHII is the tip of a world. It is not strictly part of the realm of darkness but rather what serves as the boundary line in between the dark and the in-between. In the ending, Sora and Riku were on the coast on the in-between side and were looking at the sea of the realm of darkness. The door visible in the dark sea is a scene that symbolizes "Deep within the darkness, there is light", as Sora said in the previous KH.Terra DIDN'T steal Aurora's heart : He was just tricked into thinking so. It was MX and Maleficent. It wasn't Terra's darkness manifested in his MoM. He was framed by Xehanort so Eraqus would fail him. There's prolly more but these are off the top of my head.Wow, everyday you learn something new. xDPeace! 1 HarLea Quinn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted June 1, 2015 Wow, everyday you learn something new. xDPeace! Quota 2 Robbie the Wise and Yuya Sakaki reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mystics Apprentice 2,397 Posted June 1, 2015 I've seen many, and I'm sure that I myself have been involved in a few misconceptions due to the plot of the games being so deep and rather confusing. Some common ones that I see are: --It's a kids' game (and I'm like, "No, come on! Get past the Disney characters! You're missing out!" --Ven and Roxas are the same person (when they're really not). I'm sure that there's more, but I can't think of them at the moment. It's been a while since I've really spoken about the series with anyone. 1 luka reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Eraqus 1,340 Posted June 1, 2015 I had edited my previous post to add some but I'm sure you missed it .Plus I'll add a few more : Other misconceptions- that Roxas wielded Xion's keyblade as his second one. Hers was merely a replica. Her death awakened the ability in Roxas to use Ven's. We have yet to see the real KH -- all previous ones were manufactured or incomplete. The voice in KH1 is Mickey NOT Ven. Lingering Will is NOT Terra's soul...The soul never leaves the body or you are dead. It's the body's life force. The spot Riku and Sora arrived in the end of KH2 was not the same place as Aqua and Ansem : What can be called the dark coastline seen at the beginning and end of KHII is the tip of a world. It is not strictly part of the realm of darkness but rather what serves as the boundary line in between the dark and the in-between. In the ending, Sora and Riku were on the coast on the in-between side and were looking at the sea of the realm of darkness. The door visible in the dark sea is a scene that symbolizes "Deep within the darkness, there is light", as Sora said in the previous KH. Terra DIDN'T steal Aurora's heart : He was just tricked into thinking so. It was MX and Maleficent. It wasn't Terra's darkness manifested in his MoM. He was framed by Xehanort so Eraqus would fail him. There's prolly more but these are off the top of my head. Well, I did not know some of these things. I always assumed that Sora and Riku didn't run into Aqua was because she just left somewhere else in the realm of darkness for whatever reason. I had no idea there were multiple beaches in the realm of darkness. 2 HarLea Quinn and luka reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted June 1, 2015 Well, I did not know some of these things. I always assumed that Sora and Riku didn't run into Aqua was because she just left somewhere else in the realm of darkness for whatever reason. I had no idea there were multiple beaches in the realm of darkness. Like it said they were on the boundary line between the inbetween ( where they just came from defeating Xemnas) and looking out at the sea of the RoD 3 luka, Robbie the Wise and Blooming Marluxia reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cricket 1,180 Posted June 1, 2015 One that I always think about is that people say Kairi doesn't really have any power and is useless, when we can clearly see that she does have potential power because she brought Sora's heart back from the darkness. Kairi just needs to be properly trained to tap in her PoH powers and I think she'll really surprise us in the future. 3 HarLea Quinn, luka and Shuy reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites