Hyperion 144 Posted July 30, 2012 (edited) Ok, so haven't pureblood (Shadows, Neoshadows, and Darkballs, giggity) heartless been around forever? And aren't they attracted to the keyblade? So then why are there non in BBS (I know they're in the secret episode, but since it's in the realm of darkness it doesn't really count) Squall explains in KH1 that heartless are attracted to the keyblade, or does that only apply to Sora's keyblade? Edited July 30, 2012 by Stigma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ienzo88755 11 Posted July 30, 2012 I think it was because the barriers to the worlds in KH1 were broken so the heartless could get in but in BBS the barriers were still up. 1 Spencer Ellis Norman reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AverageGoddess 163 Posted July 30, 2012 BBS: Okay, I dont think they exsisted in BBS... but i could be wrong, i forgot KH1: they were there CoM: they are still there 358 2 Days: read above KH2: STILL READ ABOVE Coded: They is in a computer... KH3D: They are in a dream thingy so i think thts why they dont appear.... ....the heartless appear in basically all the games except for 2, one because Ansem's apprentices hadnt dun the experiments yet, so thus non exsisting. and in KH3D they technically arent in the real world... thats just what i think Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hyperion 144 Posted July 30, 2012 BBS: Okay, I dont think they exsisted in BBS... but i could be wrong, i forgot KH1: they were there CoM: they are still there 358 2 Days: read above KH2: STILL READ ABOVE Coded: They is in a computer... KH3D: They are in a dream thingy so i think thts why they dont appear.... ....the heartless appear in basically all the games except for 2, one because Ansem's apprentices hadnt dun the experiments yet, so thus non exsisting. and in KH3D they technically arent in the real world... thats just what i think Heartless have ALWAYS existed. Ansem's apprentices made emblem heartless, which is why they have the heart insignia on them, and why purebloods don't. ANd heartless appear in BBS, play the FM version and get the secret episode Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spencer Ellis Norman 63 Posted July 30, 2012 They existed, MX had the power to summon Neoshadows, he used them against Ven during training. The only reason they werent in worlds, is because the barriers were up, preventing interplanetary travel. So they didnt spread around until the 10 years leading up to KH1. After BBS. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col.Random 3,683 Posted July 30, 2012 Ok, so haven't pureblood (Shadows, Neoshadows, and Darkballs, giggity) heartless been around forever? And aren't they attracted to the keyblade? So then why are there non in BBS (I know they're in the secret episode, but since it's in the realm of darkness it doesn't really count) Squall explains in KH1 that heartless are attracted to the keyblade, or does that only apply to Sora's keyblade? They're having coffee with me at my house. Wanna join?They probably weren't able to leave the RoD until Ansem and maleficent took control of them. In DDD they can't enter the dream world because it's in a kind of lockdown Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted July 30, 2012 Its been said they always existed but just in smaller numbers until the fall of Radiant Gardens, and then the rest of the following events..Look at the neoshadows MX had attack Ven so he 'd be forced to fight back . 1 Robbie the Wise reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Kuno 2,512 Posted July 30, 2012 (edited) During the events of BbS Heartless existed but were confined to the Realm of Darkness unless summoned by someone with a powerful affinity for darkness. When the apprentices lost their hearts, their heartless appeared in the Realm of Light. Xehanort, under the name Ansem discovered the heartless and created the artificial "Emblem" heartless. This allowed heartless to proliferate in the realm of light by consuming hearts, thereby creating more heartless. Edited July 30, 2012 by Sora_Kuno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Imoore4 687 Posted July 30, 2012 BBS: Okay, I dont think they exsisted in BBS... but i could be wrong, i forgot KH1: they were there CoM: they are still there 358 2 Days: read above KH2: STILL READ ABOVE Coded: They is in a computer... KH3D: They are in a dream thingy so i think thts why they dont appear.... ....the heartless appear in basically all the games except for 2, one because Ansem's apprentices hadnt dun the experiments yet, so thus non exsisting. and in KH3D they technically arent in the real world... thats just what i think Huh, I didn't think this a Firaga topic...!!O.o Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hyperion 144 Posted July 30, 2012 (edited) They existed, MX had the power to summon Neoshadows, he used them against Ven during training. The only reason they werent in worlds, is because the barriers were up, preventing interplanetary travel. So they didnt spread around until the 10 years leading up to KH1. After BBS. So MX could of summoned heartless whenever he wanted to? Edited July 30, 2012 by Stigma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AverageGoddess 163 Posted July 30, 2012 (edited) Heartless have ALWAYS existed. Ansem's apprentices made emblem heartless, which is why they have the heart insignia on them, and why purebloods don't. ANd heartless appear in BBS, play the FM version and get the secret episode I cant play BBS...i dun have the game or console I SAID I COULD BE WRONG, JEEZ. JUST TRYING TO BE HELPFUL. Edited July 30, 2012 by AverageGoddess Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spencer Ellis Norman 63 Posted July 30, 2012 So MX could of summoned heartless whenever he wanted to? Pureblood Heartless only i believe, im not sure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hyperion 144 Posted July 30, 2012 I cant play BBS...i dun have the game or console I SAID I COULD BE WRONG, JEEZ. JUST TRYING TO BE HELPFUL. ? Why are you getting so angry? I was just explaining that they always existed, no need to get upset Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AverageGoddess 163 Posted July 30, 2012 ? Why are you getting so angry? I was just explaining that they always existed, no need to get upset eh? i'm not angry I JUST LIKE TEH CAP LOCK XDDDDDDDDDDD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hyperion 144 Posted July 30, 2012 eh? i'm not angry I JUST LIKE TEH CAP LOCK XDDDDDDDDDDD Well what you said in caps lock sounded like you were angry at me, sorry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JTD95 1,108 Posted July 30, 2012 They lived inside the Realm of Darkness. At some point the a gateway was opened allowing them access to other worlds outside the Realm of Darkness. 1 Lu Xun reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fates Chance 60 Posted July 30, 2012 I remember that in bbs heartless could only be summons into the world of light. And that when the world barrier is broken heartless can now enter the world searching for the worlds key hole. That's the whole reason for ,"this world has been connected, tied to the darkness." which brings up another question. How does the barrier come down? I think it was explained once. 1 Spencer Ellis Norman reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalChange 303 Posted July 30, 2012 Leon said that heartless are attracted to DARKNESS, not the Keyblade. Also, the heartless were not released upon the worlds until Xehanort became 'Ansem', because the Heartless in the RoD aren't able to escape the RoD. If you read the Ansem Reports, the apprentices tried making a heart of pure light like Ventus's, but failed, and that released darkness became pureblood heartless. It was only then that heartless were released upon the worlds. Besides, Vanitas is made from pure darkness, so he was a heartless, in a way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hyperion 144 Posted July 30, 2012 Leon said that heartless are attracted to DARKNESS, not the Keyblade. Also, the heartless were not released upon the worlds until Xehanort became 'Ansem', because the Heartless in the RoD aren't able to escape the RoD. If you read the Ansem Reports, the apprentices tried making a heart of pure light like Ventus's, but failed, and that released darkness became pureblood heartless. It was only then that heartless were released upon the worlds. Besides, Vanitas is made from pure darkness, so he was a heartless, in a way. Then why do they always find Sora? I could of sworn he said keyblade because I remember he said "They'll keep comin' after you , as long as you wield the keyblade" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xail 113 Posted July 30, 2012 They were waiting for the unversed to die? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob 5,571 Posted July 30, 2012 Its explained in KH1 and shown in BBS. Simple. Then why do they always find Sora? I could of sworn he said keyblade because I remember he said "They'll keep comin' after you , as long as you wield the keyblade" Yeah, that was when KH was thought to be the only game until it became successful enough to have a sequel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalChange 303 Posted July 31, 2012 Then why do they always find Sora? I could of sworn he said keyblade because I remember he said "They'll keep comin' after you , as long as you wield the keyblade" He also said that 'the heartless have great fear of the keyblade, but its your heart they want because you can weild it' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hyperion 144 Posted July 31, 2012 Its explained in KH1 and shown in BBS. Simple. Yeah, that was when KH was thought to be the only game until it became successful enough to have a sequel. Oh so they had to change the story and stuff then Yeah sorry, I haven't played KH1 in like 3 years so my memory is a bit hazey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
replika13 455 Posted July 31, 2012 heartless are creatures of darkness, so they have existed as long as realm of darkness. But since Xehanort didnt break orlds barriers and cause heartless invasion to happen yet, they dont exist in other worlds during time of BBS Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
