Okay, Sora saved the world TWICE! Not once but TWICE!!!! He killed 1000 heartless by hiself, he killed two powerful dudes and he failed his EXAM!!!!??

 

NO YEN SID!!! THAT IS JUS WRONG WRONG WROOOOONG

 

 

Wow ok now that my screaming it out:

 

Why! Thats just wrong

yeah but they didnt alter his memories to make him believe that, they just lied to him to make him believe it and he believed them when obveously you shouldnt

 

none of his actions made sense

 

How so? And wait, do you honestly think Sora doesn't believe the Namine thing? Because he clearly does

How so? And wait, do you honestly think Sora doesn't believe the Namine thing? Because he clearly does

 

i never said he dosent. im just saying that his memories werent altered to make him believe that. and nobody with common sense would believe right away in new memories you suddenly start to remember in a place where your memories can be altered

i never said he dosent. im just saying that his memories werent altered to make him believe that. and nobody with common sense would believe right away in new memories you suddenly start to remember in a place where your memories can be altered

 

Wait what?

What are you saying?

When you say 'believe that' what does 'that' refer to?

i remember Yen Sid saying something like that: "If you return safety after opening the seven keyholes.i will call you Keyblade Master." Only Riku came safe,as for Sora...

Riku had more character growth in this game. His mistakes in the past made him into a stonger person. The same is true for Sora, but he is a few years behind. 1. Being younger. 2. Being in a coma for a year. 3. Getting captured and put in a coma again. Sora has the strength, the skill, he just needs to hit puberty first. His voice just changed NOW, he needs to grow hair where there was no hair before to become a master.

 

What i mean is, Sora's mistakes in 3D will alow him to grow like Riku has. It's not his fault, he is just younger and at a different point in his character arc.

 

No... Sora just has a different personality. Sora and Riku are only one year apart.

For everyone saying that Riku deserved it more so because he save Sora from the darkness, I will say that Sora once helped Riku out when he was possessed by Ansem, because, you know, he beat Ansem. Granted, Riku did the rest, but he would have never had the chance to fight the darkness in his heart if it wasn't for Sora. However, Riku learned and matured from that experience, and since Sora never really had to struggle when returning from darkness the first time after becoming a heartless, he didn't really have much to learn from. Sora may have saved the world on a few occassions(though, let's be honest, Organization XIII in KHII wasn't exactly destroying worlds), he still lacked the true maturity that came with being a keyblade master.

(though, let's be honest, Organization XIII in KHII wasn't exactly destroying worlds)

 

No. Just murdering everyone who inhabits them

No. Just murdering everyone who inhabits them

 

I actually agree with this, because it's more or less accurate of what they were doing.

It's called character development.

It's called character development.

 

Actions do not equal character development. Yen Sid failing Sora (Which he didn't) doesn't automatically mean his character develops

In fact, Sora's reaction to 'failure' if anything shows that he's mature enough to handle it, and as such his character had already developed.

From the way the game worded it, it wasn't that Sora failed, Riku was just better. Think of it like this.

 

The teacher has 2 students. The teacher set was seemed like a difficult goal to achieve. Both students accomplished it but one went way past the goal. Now the teacher is stuck with an A student and an A++ student.

 

This is also combined with the fact that Riku thought he would fail. Yen Sid must have decided that while Sora grew a bit, Riku made a much more drastic jump. Sora still has time to improve. Plus, don't forget that Sora "isn't" actually the one chosen by the keyblade, Riku was. However at the time, Riku had fallen to darkness and Sora was the next thing it chose. Eventually Sora just proved that his friendship alone makes him stronger.

 

The way I see it, they may have a short time gap between now and KH3(Couple months maybe?). After that, Riku will be the master with a mission while Sora may turn up out of nowhere x100 more powerful. After all, Sora did leave alone at the end...

Yes he left but if I am to assume correctly because of the secret ending;

he left to go pet some spirits for too many hours of his life, like me

Edited August 12, 201213 yr by Kirux

moreso than sora was in chain of memories, he went deeper into the castle knowing that he was putting him Donald and Goofy in danger in more ways than just memory loss over some girl he barely remembers in a place where your memories are getting messed with.

 

Yen Sid never really did anything wrong he was just misinformed and unaware that one version of Ansem had the ability to time travel, had he known that things would probobly have gone differnt. i never played through BBS so i dont exactly know what Aqua did that lacked common sense. and if eraqus had destroyed Ven like he had intended than all of the suffering in future games never would have happened since Xehanort would have eventually just diead an old man.

 

Spoiler for BBS and how Aqua is an idiot that caused EVERYTHING

 

Aqua is the reason we even have to deal with Xehanort at all. At the end of BBS when Aqua confronted Terranort, he choked the crap out of her and she fought hime to try and save her friend. When she defeated Terranort, Terra actually got control of his body for a second and used Xehanort's Keyblade to try and unlock his heart and he fell into darkness. Aqua the super cool keyblade master jumped into the darkness to save her "friend" and ended up sending him BACK to the realm of light. Therefore Aqua is the cause of EVERYTHING that's happened after BBS, if she never would have saved Terranort, the worlds would have been safe.

 

 

I just buy the riku-only roll, and omg riku really have the coolest moves of the game, he has the strenght of Terra, but Sora "still need some practice" Donald

Spoiler for BBS and how Aqua is an idiot that caused EVERYTHING

 

Aqua is the reason we even have to deal with Xehanort at all. At the end of BBS when Aqua confronted Terranort, he choked the crap out of her and she fought hime to try and save her friend. When she defeated Terranort, Terra actually got control of his body for a second and used Xehanort's Keyblade to try and unlock his heart and he fell into darkness. Aqua the super cool keyblade master jumped into the darkness to save her "friend" and ended up sending him BACK to the realm of light. Therefore Aqua is the cause of EVERYTHING that's happened after BBS, if she never would have saved Terranort, the worlds would have been safe.

 

 

 

Xehanort would have been able to get out of the Realm of Darkness eventually. It's not very good at holding people who can use darkness. So her saving Terra wasjust that, her saving Terra. Who would have been just as stuck as she has been otherwise. Now that he's not in the RoD, he has a better chance of being saved, if someone could actually figure out that Terra is inside/split between, God knows where/ Xehanort, then her rescure wouldn't be in vain. But either way, he has more hope than she does at the moment.

The one flaw I do see in her plan (and this will kinda contridict what I just said, but I just thought abuit it too.lol) is that if she would have let him fall into Darkness, Xehanort would have been delayed and his Heartless and Nobody may have never been formed due to him not being able to experiment using Ansem's labs and stuff. And aqua would be free (and not stuck in the RoD being uselss to others till shes free) to find a way to rescue Terra from the Darkness just as we all know Sora/Riku/ someone will find a way to rescue her from it. So, we know it'll be possible to do so, which can beg the question as to why Aqua didn't let it happen and just find a way around it as will be done for her.

All I can think is that she didn't think about it or know it would ever be possible, which is logical.

I personally am very happy for Riku, with all the crap he's been through he deserves this. He's proven himself on so many levels since the ending of KHI. Yes, he fell to the darkness, but he was strong enough to overcome it and resist it. Sora hasn't been through anything nearly as trying as what Riku has, and frankly Sora has been a plaything of MX since KHI, without ever noticing it. Sora still has a lot of room to grow and mature, and Yen Sid even recognised that he does possess the talent to be a Master. Riku's whole diving into Sora's dreams a second time just sort of took the cake, as it should have., because Riku is made of awesome.

 

Also Riku has always been my favourite so meh.

 

Perfect, couldnt have put it better

Xehanort would have been able to get out of the Realm of Darkness eventually. It's not very good at holding people who can use darkness. So her saving Terra wasjust that, her saving Terra. Who would have been just as stuck as she has been otherwise. Now that he's not in the RoD, he has a better chance of being saved, if someone could actually figure out that Terra is inside/split between, God knows where/ Xehanort, then her rescure wouldn't be in vain. But either way, he has more hope than she does at the moment.

The one flaw I do see in her plan (and this will kinda contridict what I just said, but I just thought abuit it too.lol) is that if she would have let him fall into Darkness, Xehanort would have been delayed and his Heartless and Nobody may have never been formed due to him not being able to experiment using Ansem's labs and stuff. And aqua would be free (and not stuck in the RoD being uselss to others till shes free) to find a way to rescue Terra from the Darkness just as we all know Sora/Riku/ someone will find a way to rescue her from it. So, we know it'll be possible to do so, which can beg the question as to why Aqua didn't let it happen and just find a way around it as will be done for her.

All I can think is that she didn't think about it or know it would ever be possible, which is logical.

 

And your second paragraph was exactly my point.

Maybe Sora will pass his exam when he builds his defense against the darkness. Seeing how Riku's always stuggles with his in most games, he has some defenses and control over it. Sora however being completely light guided most the time had barely any defenses at all. MAYBE Sora will be the one to rescue Aqua, and by going through the realm of darkness in search of her he will build up his defenses against the darkness?

And your second paragraph was exactly my point.

 

And as I ended it saying, she just didn't know about it. She may have thought, like anyone would've, that once you fall into Darkness, your gone for good. So she sacrificed herself and is trying to find a way out. If Xehanort would've fallen into the realm of darkness, he could get out by using a dark portal....which he would've had to take Terra with him...ok. it's a plot hole. Every time I try to find logic in it, I think of how it's contridicted. Nomura messed up on this one, but every story has it's flaws. Especially when you keep writting backwards and changing details and story elements for 10 years.

Edited August 18, 201213 yr by Silent Fantasy

Well, Yen Sid already said that both Sora and Riku deserve the title. The reason only Riku was made a Master is because he went "Above and beyond" by going back to save Sora (the very person he once tried to kill btw) after the latter fell asleep.

Sora literally just took the exam for fun.

Riku deserved it. Sora is ok with it. Accept it.

There was a test, Riku, by not giving in to the darkness and rescuing Sora from his own giving in to the darkness proved himself more worth during said test. It's not about who's worthy of the title, it's about who proved himself more worthy when they were being evaluated about it.

 

Maybe Sora will take the exam again but that's not happening in this arc.

Sora's different from the other keyblade wielders. I wouldn't want him to be a master. He really isn't one anyway. It doesn't mean he is bad with a keyblade. I just feel he is something different from the others. He's special.

Edited October 1, 201213 yr by XaonSchock