KH2 Sora vs. Roxas

[Xaldin III 80]

Is Roxas better than Sora? Roxas seems to be able to use Synch Blade out of sheer will in 358/2 Days, while Sora needed the Fairies Clothes AND his friends for 2 keyblades. What do you guys think? Who is more powerful?

[Junko 2,815]

wouldn't they be equally matched since they're the same person?

[Sikota Urinakano 878]

Roxas, he has a stronger heart because f trials he had to go through, and because of Xion he is almost literally twice as strong as Sora.

[Hazimie 1,595]

both of them are the SAME person,so it's equal...

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Roxas couldn't dual wield either till Xion's death awakened Ven's hearts ability to use his keyblade bc of Roxas' grief and heartfelt emotions...After that Sora could utilize that newfound ability as well and the clothes the faeries used only brought out his 'inner potential". Overall, they are at least equal strength.

 

 

 

Edit: Ugh typos

Edited February 17, 2013 by Flaming Lea

[Ultima Spark 753]

Whatever Roxas can do, so can Sora, and vice versa. Or rather, the potential is there, but certain things may require different triggers to unlock.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Roxas, he has a stronger heart because f trials he had to go through, and because of Xion he is almost literally twice as strong as Sora.

 Sora went through many trials as well .Look at all he went through since KH1. Anyways, Xion was syphoning power off of Roxas the entire time. They shared power back and forth  the entire time in Days. . When Xion died and Roxas absorbed her, Roxas' power wasn't doubled, he just wasn't needing to share power with her anymore..Xion was drawing power off him the entire time.

[Sikota Urinakano 878]

 Sora went through many trials as well .Look at all he went through since KH1. Anyways, Xion was syphoning power off of Roxas the entire time. They shared power back and forth  the entire time in Days. . When Xion died and Roxas absorbed her, Roxas' power wasn't doubled, he just wasn't needing to share power with her anymore..Xion was drawing power off him the entire time.

Fair enough, but the second Keyblade is Xion's and that's final

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Fair enough, but the second Keyblade is Xion's and that's final

 

Actually you are wrong .It's Ven's keyblade.. Xion's keyblade was fake as confirmed by Nomura himself and stated in game by Riku . Canon FACT. And that's final.

Edited February 17, 2013 by Flaming Lea

[advfox 698]

They're the same person. 

[Sikota Urinakano 878]

Actually you are wrong .It's Ven's keyblade.. Xion's keyblade was fake as confirmed by Nomura himself and stated in game by Riku . Canon FACT. And that's final.

;_;

[Elijah Gravenhorst 480]

Ahem.Roxas and Sora are not the same person!!! "You're you." - Sora KH3d. I'm sorry but I think that Roxas has a much stronger heart than Sora since we've established that Sora is only a keyblade weilder because of the many ties he has to other people. I'm not saying that Sora's keyblade isn't his own, I'm just saying that he only has it because other people make his heart strong. So in my opinion, Roxas is much more awesome than Sora, he has been through way more "stuff" than Sora has and his pain gave rise to his awesome power with the two keyblades. Yeah even at lvl 99 in KH2 Sora can't take out three neoshadows in one swing of the keyblade.

[Ultima Spark 753]

What? The first Keyblade is Sora's/Roxas' (same thing), the second is Ventus'. Xion's was simply a copy/imitation borne of her Replica status/powers (though powerful enough to otherwise act as a real one would). Riku says it in-game, and Nomura backs it up in the Ultimania interview:

 

 

Namine tells Riku that in order for Sora's memories to be restored, both Sora's Nobody and Xion must no longer exist. So he takes it on himself to defeat them, but when he and Roxas fought, was that the first time he had realized that Roxas was that Nobody?
 

Nomura: Riku only realizes it when Roxas takes off his hood and he can see his face, and he responds to his call. Until then he only half believed. When he first met Xion, he didn't think that she was Sora or Kairi's Nobody, and it was the same with Roxas. When he first saw Roxas, he had no proof of who he was. So that's why he lost to Roxas, he was surprised at him using a real keyblade rather than an imitation like Xion's, and he called out to him. Part of Riku didn't really want to believe that his best friend really had a Nobody.

 

(emphasis mine)
 

edit: lol ninja'd

Edited February 17, 2013 by Ultima Spark

[Dave 5,715]

Which one of them saved the world twice, again?

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Ahem.Roxas and Sora are not the same person!!! "You're you." - Sora KH3d. I'm sorry but I think that Roxas has a much stronger heart than Sora since we've established that Sora is only a keyblade weilder because of the many ties he has to other people. I'm not saying that Sora's keyblade isn't his own, I'm just saying that he only has it because other people make his heart strong. So in my opinion, Roxas is much more awesome than Sora, he has been through way more "stuff" than Sora has and his pain gave rise to his awesome power with the two keyblades. Yeah even at lvl 99 in KH2 Sora can't take out three neoshadows in one swing of the keyblade.

 

UMMMMM You do know that Roxas only can wield bc he's Soras nobody in the first place, right? He was also sharing his keyblade with Sora up until Sora was put to sleep after CoM. Roxas also only dual wields bc of Ven's heart. Therefore by your logic Roxas only wields bc of other people. Everything Roxas has he gets from other people . Why do you think he fainted in CO when he was near his other 'selves' ? ( Sora and Ven ).When Roxas merged back with Sora all his power returned back to Sora too meaning in KH2 Sora had all Roxas' power plus his own while separated .Your logic makes no sense. Just sayin' 

 

 

Also Nomura  confirmed Sora was always destined to wield even without Ven's heart and gets nothing from Ven but the second keyblade. Roxas may be his own person bc he eventually grew his own heart but that doesn't mean he wields based off his own power.

 

Also Sora has been through a crazy amount of stuff , from watching his own world fall to darkness, watching his best friend get possessed and body stolen, his other best friend in a coma, and having to basically commit suicide to bring her back. Then went on to have to save the world not once but twice while believing his best friend was possibly dead and the other best friend kidnapped yet AGAIN. When has Roxas saved the world ? That's why Roxas even stated ' it had to be him " meaning Sora.

Edited February 17, 2013 by Flaming Lea

[Dracozombie 4,554]

I like Roxas better, but Sora's the hero, as others have mentioned.  Even just speaking in terms of power level, things are tilted in Sora's favor.  Sora saved the world twice, won the Dive to the Heart battle in TWTNW, and it was confirmed by Nomura that Roxas would've gotten himself killed had he gone after Xemnas to free Kingdom Hearts.

[Weiss 8,279]

They're the kinda the same person so....equal.

[Mystics Apprentice 2,397]

Sora's more powerful, in my opinion.

[Elijah Gravenhorst 480]

UMMMMM You do know that Roxas only can wield bc he's Soras nobody in the first place, right? He was also sharing his keyblade with Sora up until Sora was put to sleep after CoM. Roxas also only dual wields bc of Ven's heart. Therefore by your logic Roxas only wields bc of other people. Everything Roxas has he gets from other people . Why do you think he fainted in CO when he was near his other 'selves' ? ( Sora and Ven ).When Roxas merged back with Sora all his power returned back to Sora too meaning in KH2 Sora had all Roxas' power plus his own while separated .Your logic makes no sense. Just sayin' 

 

 

Also Nomura  confirmed Sora was always destined to wield even without Ven's heart and gets nothing from Ven but the second keyblade. Roxas may be his own person bc he eventually grew his own heart but that doesn't mean he wields based off his own power.

 

Also Sora has been through a crazy amount of stuff , from watching his own world fall to darkness, watching his best friend get possessed and body stolen, his other best friend in a coma, and having to basically commit suicide to bring her back. Then went on to have to save the world not once but twice while believing his best friend was possibly dead and the other best friend kidnapped yet AGAIN. When has Roxas saved the world ? That's why Roxas even stated ' it had to be him " meaning Sora.

Ok, hang on a sec, you're saying that Roxas and Sora used the same keyblade at the same time during CoM? That doesn't make sense. Also, it has never been confirmed that Roxas dual wields because of Ven's heart. It just hasn't been explained. Also, when Roxas threw one of his keyblades at Riku, Riku had the ability to wield it. Now tell me when did Riku come into contact with Ven's heart? I'm just sayin' that you can't make these assumptions and expect to be taken seriously. Also the difference between the difficulties Sora went through and the ones Roxas went through is that everything worked out ok for Sora. In Roxas's case, people DIED. Sora stabbed himself with a goofy smile on his face and was revived minutes later. Roxas cried while holding his best friend in his arms as she disapeared. I'm sorry, but I'm sure that other people agree that Roxas takes the cake for a rough time.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Ok, hang on a sec, you're saying that Roxas and Sora used the same keyblade at the same time during CoM? That doesn't make sense. Also, it has never been confirmed that Roxas dual wields because of Ven's heart. It just hasn't been explained. Also, when Roxas threw one of his keyblades at Riku, Riku had the ability to wield it. Now tell me when did Riku come into contact with Ven's heart? I'm just sayin' that you can't make these assumptions and expect to be taken seriously. Also the difference between the difficulties Sora went through and the ones Roxas went through is that everything worked out ok for Sora. In Roxas's case, people DIED. Sora stabbed himself with a goofy smile on his face and was revived minutes later. Roxas cried while holding his best friend in his arms as she disapeared. I'm sorry, but I'm sure that other people agree that Roxas takes the cake for a rough time.

 

 

You are kidding me right ? You are the only one making assumptions. This was all confirmed by Nomura himself .

 

 

*Q1: Why do Roxas and Ventus look alike?*

 

A: Because inside Sora, which is Roxas’ body, is Ventus’ heart. As was shown in the opening to BbS and the ending to Last Episode, Sora and Ventus’ heart are linked. And so Roxas, who is a part of Sora, was affected by that and looks just like Ventus.

 

This doesn't get any clearer then this. Roxas who is literally Sora's body was affected by Ventus's heart. 

Since the heart shapes the vessel Sora's body was molded to look like Ventus as his heart remained in Sora's body. Had Ven's heart not been present Roxas would have looked like Sora not Ven.

 

 

*Q2: Why did Roxas faint in Castle Oblivion on Day 297?*

 

A: Because he had gotten to close to both Sora and Ventus, his “real self”.Before Day 297 in Days Sora had been to Castle Oblivion, as well as the fact that Ventus is asleep somewhere in the Room of Awakening. Both Sora and Ventus can be called Roxas’ “real selves”, and when he felt their presence it made him faint.

 

This further emulates the point about the location of Ven's heart. Roxas's fainted because Ven's heart was so close to his body, and Roxas(Sora's Body) was so close to his heart. Had Ven's heart not been within Roxas he woud not be included in Roxas's true selves.

 

 

*Q3 is basically the same question as 1 confirming Roxas has Ven's heart*

 

*Q4: Why can Roxas dual-wield?*

 

A: Because he can use both Sora’s and Ventus’ keyblades. Sora can wield two keyblades at once because he has Ventus’ as well as his own. As Roxas is a part of Sora, he also can use two. In Days Roxas awakened his ability to dual wield after fighting Xion. In KHII once, Sora absorbs him, he can also dual-wield. 

 

Again if Roxas did not have Ven's heart he would have no means to access Ven's keyblade.

 

 

Nomura: Well, it isn’t that Roxas has physically inherited Xion’s keyblade, but more that Xion has awakened it within Roxas. In the KH series there are a lot of complex reasons why someone can use a keyblade, but basically you need a “heart” to be able to wield one. So strictly speaking, they are being influenced by Sora.

 

 

 

Also yes they did take turns wielding Sora's keyblade until Sora was put to sleep by Namine . CoM and Days intersect during this time and Sora was wielding his keyblade yet Roxas also was wielding Sora's keyblade during the exact same time. .This was also confimed by Nomura...Also Riku could hold others keyblades bc all wielders can hold each others as we witnessed with Riku and Sora in the final battle with Xemnas in Kh2 and Aqua using Eraqus' keyblade.

 

Also Just bc Roxas suffered doesn't mean Sora didn't suffer so your point is moot .

 

Maybe you should take some of your own advice if you want to be taken seriously. This is all Nomuras words and CANON FACT.

Edited February 18, 2013 by Flaming Lea

[Xaldin III 80]

Thanks guys! I learn more about KH every day. So I think now that they are actually quite equal, since they basically attain each other's abilities. Stats-wise, I think Roxas's LV multiplier panels in Days represent how quickly he is "remembering" (in a way) how to use a keyblade like Sora.

[Hikari2109 8]

To me it's 50/50.

[Reyn 1,755]

Roxas, he has a stronger heart because f trials he had to go through, and because of Xion he is almost literally twice as strong as Sora.

 

No that is wrong. Its been stated by Diz that Roxas has always held only half of Sora's power, even after he absorbed Xion. They did seem evenly matched when they fought in Deep Dive, but Sora managed to defeat Roxas.

 

 Sora went through many trials as well .Look at all he went through since KH1. Anyways, Xion was syphoning power off of Roxas the entire time. They shared power back and forth  the entire time in Days. . When Xion died and Roxas absorbed her, Roxas' power wasn't doubled, he just wasn't needing to share power with her anymore..Xion was drawing power off him the entire time.

 

This^

 

Ahem.Roxas and Sora are not the same person!!! "You're you." - Sora KH3d. I'm sorry but I think that Roxas has a much stronger heart than Sora since we've established that Sora is only a keyblade weilder because of the many ties he has to other people. I'm not saying that Sora's keyblade isn't his own, I'm just saying that he only has it because other people make his heart strong. So in my opinion, Roxas is much more awesome than Sora, he has been through way more "stuff" than Sora has and his pain gave rise to his awesome power with the two keyblades. Yeah even at lvl 99 in KH2 Sora can't take out three neoshadows in one swing of the keyblade.

You know, Roxas has ties to Sora and Ventus too, they're the whole reason he can wield the keyblade in the first place. And besides Ventus's heart is the reason Roxas has feelings too.

 

And Roxas technically is SORA. I mean, Sora was his past life, despite the fact that they Co-Existed for a time. He was really just a part of Sora that broke off from him, meaning HE IS TECHNICALLY STILL SORA. No matter how you look at it, Roxas will always be part of Sora and can be considered to be him too.

[ZOBLIVION 13]

 I think they are just as strong. BUT! They use different fighting styles, so it all depends on the enviroment and luck.

 Roxas has much larger range on his attacks, but he could be in a trouble if he was forced to fight on a room with little space. When they fought, Roxas had the advantage, since the area was large enough for him to use some of his AOE type attacks, but Sora got lucky. If the room would've been smaller, and filled with pillars and objects, Sora would've won without almost losing the fight. Of course Roxas could've been lucky as well.

[VeNate13 144]

I think Sora could duel wield 24/7 if he wanted to. I think Sora is a bit more experienced than Roxas.