So there is this thing called Injustice Battle Area. People vote who they would win in fights between super heroes. So it has been brought to my attention (once again) that everyone thinks Batman can beat any superhero. So I just wanted to lay out my opinions on who could beat Batman.

 

Now I know there is all this comic evidence and blah blah blah. But when it comes down to it, it's really just fan service.

 

 

 

Superman

He is Superman...There is no way Batman can beat him. "Oh you have kryptonite in your belt? That's cool. I fight one of the smartest men in then world. He always uses kryptonite to be me. Yet...he always fails."

Seriously now. Superman can fly, use heat vision, shoot laser beams from his eyes, etc. How does a regular human with toys beat that? He doesn't. As soon as Batman went to reach for his pocket of kryptonite Superman is so fast he would already has shot beams at his hand.

I never understand how people think Batman would win...

 

 

 

 

 

Green Lantern

"But Xaon his weakness is yellow!" Nope. Not anymore. Well...Not Hal Jordan and some others. So now how can batman beat him? Take his ring off you say? How would he do that when GL just has to fly away, put Batman in a bubble and crush him?

 

 

 

 

 

Shazam

He's pretty much Superman with magic powers and no weakness that Batman can exploit...Yeah, no chance Batman.

 

 

 

 

 

The Flash

Everyone knows The Flash can run really fast. Some people may think that's lame or not hard to deal with. But did you know he can vibrate through solid objects and can be pretty much invisible? So as Batman is throwing all this stuff at his Flash can just vibrate through all of it. Not only that, Batman wouldn't be able to think as fast as The Flash can move.

 

 

 

 

 

Martian Manhunter

"Hi. I'm Superman with shape shifting, intangibility and telepathy."  Yeah...no chance on that Batman...Sorry.

 

 

 

 

 

Green Arrow

Actually they can beat each other. They both have similar skills and what not. So it would just go back and forth or just be a draw.

 

 

 

I could keep going...I might later on. But yeah. Enjoy that.

Nothing or anyone can beat him. He is the best >:I

Nothing or anyone can beat him. He is the best >:I

No. Lots of people can.

No. Lots of people can.

In your dreams.

In your dreams.

Tisk tisk Dashie. Tisk tisk.

note: most of these do require some advanced notice on Batman's part. Suddenly attacked by most of these people, yeah, Bats is toast. But with if he knows they are coming...

 

Superman: You forget that Superman gave Batman that Kryptonite as a fail safe to stop Superman in case he went rogue and Batman has had years to develop a delivery system.

While most of Batman's gadgets won't hurt Superman, some dealing with sonics could disorient Superman at short range, reasoning being that Superman has super hearing that could be susceptible to sonic devices.

 

 

Green Lantern: The main way Batman could defeat GL is through fear. While GL doesn't fear Batman, Bats could adapt a fear toxin from Scarecrow for GL. Fear is the true bane for a Green Lantern.

 

 

 

Shazam: The only hope I can think of for Bats in this fight is that at his core, Shazam is still an 8 years old boy. If he could find a way to use that, then maybe Bats could win, but that is a big if.

 

 

The Flash: Disorentating effects that cause loss of balance such as messing with the inner ear with sonics or use of some sort of inhaled gas could make it hard for Flash to move effectively.

 

 

Martian Manhunter: Manhunter has a vulnerability to fire that has kind of been written in and out and back again to the character over the years. If it's still in effect, Batman could use it to weaken Manhunter. Also, once Manhunter was incapacitated by a chemical that disrupted his shape shifting powers, basically turning him to a puddle for a bit. Doubtless Batman has a sample.

 

 

Green Arrow: I actually have little doubt that Batman could beat Arrow in a stand up fight. Batman has had more training from some of the most deadly martial artists and assassins in the DC universe. Yes, Arrow is a fantastic shot with his bow and is well trained, but Batman been training to beat people like Arrow for most of his life.

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AS IF GREEN ARROW COULD BEAT BATMAN DREAM ON XAON

note: most of these do require some advanced notice on Batman's part. Suddenly attacked by most of these people, yeah, Bats is toast. But with if he knows they are coming...Superman: You forget that Superman gave Batman that Kryptonite as a fail safe to stop Superman in case he went rogue and Batman has had years to develop a delivery system.While most of Batman's gadgets won't hurt Superman, some dealing with sonics could disorient Superman at short range, reasoning being that Superman has super hearing that could be susceptible to sonic devices.Green Lantern: The main way Batman could defeat GL is through fear. While GL doesn't fear Batman, Bats could adapt a fear toxin from Scarecrow for GL. Fear is the true bane for a Green Lantern.Shazam: The only hope I can think of for Bats in this fight is that at his core, Shazam is still an 8 years old boy. If he could find a way to use that, then maybe Bats could win, but that is a big if. The Flash: Disorentating effects that cause loss of balance such as messing with the inner ear with sonics or use of some sort of inhaled gas could make it hard for Flash to move effectively. Martian Manhunter: Manhunter has a vulnerability to fire that has kind of been written in and out and back again to the character over the years. If it's still in effect, Batman could use it to weaken Manhunter. Also, once Manhunter was incapacitated by a chemical that disrupted his shape shifting powers, basically turning him to a puddle for a bit. Doubtless Batman has a sample. Green Arrow: I actually have little doubt that Batman could beat Arrow in a stand up fight. Batman has had more training from some of the most deadly martial artists and assassins in the DC universe. Yes, Arrow is a fantastic shot with his bow and is well trained, but Batman been training to beat people like Arrow for most of his life.

 

Superman: I didn't forget. I pointed out that  Batman had kryptonite. But Superman is so fast that he could get to him before he could do anything.

 

Green Lantern: Yes. But Lanterns like Hal Jordan have the ability to overcome great fear. It wouldn't immobilize him in anyway.

 

Shazam: That would be his only chance. But I he still has the body and powers.

 

The Flash: True. But how is he going to get a chance to use any of that when the flash can just run over there and knock him out before he gets a chance?

 

Martian Manhunter: He is afraid of fire. But after regaining control over himself when he became Fernus he has said that he doesn't fear fire anymore. (as for New 52 I don't know. I'm just going with before that with these because we don't know everything yet.)

 

Green Arrow: Like I said it could go either way. I think it just depends on who is having a better day.

AS IF GREEN ARROW COULD BEAT BATMAN DREAM ON XAON

Green Arrow never misses and he's excellent in hand to hand combat. He can shoot targets without even looking and can shoot about 40 arrows in a minute.

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Aquaman

 

Now just read before you say anything.

Aquaman can go to the bottom of the ocean floor and withstand the pressure and cold. So what is a punch from a normal human? Nothing. He also has super speed and can jump really high. He also has some super speed outside of the water. Nothing like Flash and Superman though. He has great fighting abilities having trained with the Atlantean army, Justice League and Batman. He has no weakness to speak of.

Aquaman is such a winner.

 

 

Superman: I didn't forget. I pointed out that  Batman had kryptonite. But Superman is so fast that he could get to him before he could do anything. Green Lantern: Yes. But Lanterns like Hal Jordan have the ability to overcome great fear. It wouldn't immobilize him in anyway. Shazam: That would be his only chance. But I he still has the body and powers. The Flash: True. But how is he going to get a chance to use any of that when the flash can just run over there and knock him out before he gets a chance? Martian Manhunter: He is afraid of fire. But after regaining control over himself when he became Fernus he has said that he doesn't fear fire anymore. (as for New 52 I don't know. I'm just going with before that with these because we don't know everything yet.) Green Arrow: Like I said it could go either way. I think it just depends on who is having a better day. :PGreen Arrow never misses and he's excellent in hand to hand combat. He can shoot targets without even looking and can shoot about 40 arrows in a minute.

Superman: Again, depends on preparation. Out of the blue, yeah Bats is a greasy spot. It also depends on how fast the Kryptonite would effect Superman's powers. Immediate, Bats has the upper hand. Slowly over time, Sups could still have the speed to do pretty much what every he wanted.Green Lantern: True, but so does Batman and he has been incapacitated by Scarecrow's fear toxic before. Also, it might not be fear of something or someone. It could inspire fear of failure, bringing up Hal's short comings. Shazam: Agreed. If Bats could trick him into saying Shazam, then Bats has it made. It's just how does he do that?Flash: if Flash is there to do it quickly with out grandstanding, Bats can't do much. Getting flash to inhale something might work, but I'm not sure how that and his speed would work. Plus it might not last long because of Flash's increase metabolism. If Flash is grandstanding and taking his time, Bats has an opening.Martian Manhunter: The fire is kind of an iffy choice.Green Arrow: I can agree with the "who has the better day" angle.There is some senarios where batman could turn it from a stand up fight to a cat and mouse game on his terms, but I felt that since this all started with Injustice, those tactics wouldn't be in the spirit of this debate.

Batman's mother could beat him. But she's dead. So nobody can

Superman: Again, depends on preparation. Out of the blue, yeah Bats is a greasy spot. It also depends on how fast the Kryptonite would effect Superman's powers. Immediate, Bats has the upper hand. Slowly over time, Sups could still have the speed to do pretty much what every he wanted.Green Lantern: True, but so does Batman and he has been incapacitated by Scarecrow's fear toxic before. Also, it might not be fear of something or someone. It could inspire fear of failure, bringing up Hal's short comings.Shazam: Agreed. If Bats could trick him into saying Shazam, then Bats has it made. It's just how does he do that?Flash: if Flash is there to do it quickly with out grandstanding, Bats can't do much. Getting flash to inhale something might work, but I'm not sure how that and his speed would work. Plus it might not last long because of Flash's increase metabolism.If Flash is grandstanding and taking his time, Bats has an opening.Martian Manhunter: The fire is kind of an iffy choice.Green Arrow: I can agree with the "who has the better day" angle.There is some senarios where batman could turn it from a stand up fight to a cat and mouse game on his terms, but I felt that since this all started with Injustice, those tactics wouldn't be in the spirit of this debate.

 

Superman: Depends on what kind of prep. Is he sneaking up on Superman? Or are they standing there about to fight?

But if he had superpowers then it would become quite difficult to beat him.

The Big Bang theory informed me that I myself could take out Golden Age and New Age Green Lantern simultaneously with a No.2 Pencil.  (weakness to wood and the colour yellow).

 

Either way unless Batmans fighting someone without powers, who's using gadgets funded by his billionaire empire as well (cough Iron Man cough) I can't see him winning against any superhero.  

So there is this thing called Injustice Battle Area. People vote who they would win in fights between super heroes. So it has been brought to my attention (once again) that everyone thinks Batman can beat any superhero. So I just wanted to lay out my opinions on who could beat Batman.

 

Now I know there is all this comic evidence and blah blah blah. But when it comes down to it, it's really just fan service.

 

 

 

Superman

He is Superman...There is no way Batman can beat him. "Oh you have kryptonite in your belt? That's cool. I fight one of the smartest men in then world. He always uses kryptonite to be me. Yet...he always fails."

Seriously now. Superman can fly, use heat vision, shoot laser beams from his eyes, etc. How does a regular human with toys beat that? He doesn't. As soon as Batman went to reach for his pocket of kryptonite Superman is so fast he would already has shot beams at his hand.

I never understand how people think Batman would win...

 

 

 

Actually, Batman has succeeded in beating Superman in the past, the example coming to my mind immediately being in Hush. Batman can use Superman's personality weaknesses to his favor: he knows that Superman is compelled to do the right thing at all times, so he is able to trick him into doing what he wants. He claims that he has turned on the gas main, so Superman can't use his laser vision. He arragnes so that Lois is in danger, so Superman is distracted. There are ways to defeat him other than a straight up fist fight.

The Big Bang theory informed me that I myself could take out Golden Age and New Age Green Lantern simultaneously with a No.2 Pencil.  (weakness to wood and the colour yellow).

 

Either way unless Batmans fighting someone without powers, who's using gadgets funded by his billionaire empire as well (cough Iron Man cough) I can't see him winning against any superhero.  

Thing about it is wood and yellow arent a problem anymore. So no you couldn't

Actually, Batman has succeeded in beating Superman in the past, the example coming to my mind immediately being in Hush. Batman can use Superman's personality weaknesses to his favor: he knows that Superman is compelled to do the right thing at all times, so he is able to trick him into doing what he wants. He claims that he has turned on the gas main, so Superman can't use his laser vision. He arragnes so that Lois is in danger, so Superman is distracted. There are ways to defeat him other than a straight up fist fight.

Like I said, that's all fan service. Plus, Superman has beaten Batman as well.

 

Also, wasn't he being controlled by someone at the time?

Edited March 20, 201312 yr by Xaon

But Superman is so unfairly powerful in some renditions that it's just stupid. Bats is a genius as well, that toppled with his time with the League of Shadows could make him hard to beat, despite having no powers and a bunch of gadgets. Plus obviously the kryptonite, if he did use it, then he would beat Supes because he knows like 7+ martial arts and bla bla bla

 

With the Flash, B-man is a tactical genius, and could anticipate his movements as such.

 

Shazam, if batman had a mystical weapon it could harm him, but I doubt he has something like that lool

 

Lantern, well that boyscouts ring will run out of power eventually.

 

Green Arrow is a definitely be a tie. Arrow is basically batman with a bow

 

But yeah, the batman can be beaten, but probably not in the easiest way.

Oh I know! You guys will love it.

AquamanNow just read before you say anything.Aquaman can go to the bottom of the ocean floor and withstand the pressure and cold. So what is a punch from a normal human? Nothing. He also has super speed and can jump really high. He also has some super speed outside of the water. Nothing like Flash and Superman though. He has great fighting abilities having trained with the Atlantean army, Justice League and Batman. He has no weakness to speak of. Aquaman is such a winner.

 

Aquaman: Weakness; need for water. Aquaman is aquatic and so needs to spend time underwater. This is put in more to get it out there. For theorizing purposes, I'm trying to keep fighters at peak form, so Aquaman would be good and should be for several hours at least. The only way Batman could use this is if they battle that long, in which case both would be fatigued.As for Aquaman's speed and strength, Batman has several rogues with similar advantages and they were beaten. While a normal human punch might not hurt Aquaman that much, nerve strikes and other technics that rely on finesce not strength might still work.Aquaman's training might be an issue, but that is mainly training for underwater combat. Aside from that, it all depends on the rules of engagement Aquaman was taught and follows.

The Big Bang theory informed me that I myself could take out Golden Age and New Age Green Lantern simultaneously with a No.2 Pencil. (weakness to wood and the colour yellow).

Two different Green Lanterns with different kind of rings. Current Green Lantern (Hal Jordon) had a weekends to yellow, but that has been fixed.Golden Age GL (Alan Scott) is still active under the name Sentinal and still has a vulnerability to wood.

Superman: Depends on what kind of prep. Is he sneaking up on Superman? Or are they standing there about to fight?

Since this started with Injustice, I'm sticking to stand up fight. The prep I'm thinking off is simply where the Kryptonite is. If Batman knows he is about to fight Superman, he is going to have the Kryptonite (usually depicted as part of a ring) out and ready. He might try a way to get it into Superman, which has happened a couple of times in the form of a Kryptonite bullet. This has its problems, the bullet idea at the forefront of that, since it's a gamble getting it into Superman.

Edited March 20, 201312 yr by rikunobodyxiii

The Big Bang theory informed me that I myself could take out Golden Age and New Age Green Lantern simultaneously with a No.2 Pencil.  (weakness to wood and the colour yellow).

 

Either way unless Batmans fighting someone without powers, who's using gadgets funded by his billionaire empire as well (cough Iron Man cough) I can't see him winning against any superhero.  

Actually, more like (cough Black Panther cough), to be fair.

 

I see no point in participating in the "debate." Xaon is so set in his ways that he'll strike anything down just to prove his point. That's not a debate: that's just being stubborn.

Actually, more like (cough Black Panther cough), to be fair. I see no point in participating in the "debate." Xaon is so set in his ways that he'll strike anything down just to prove his point. That's not a debate: that's just being stubborn.

Xaon has a point in saying that Batman can't automatically win any fight. Batman can come up with strategies to beat most, but he needs time and materials to make it work. Without it, Batman is in big trouble.

Actually, more like (cough Black Panther cough), to be fair.

 

I see no point in participating in the "debate." Xaon is so set in his ways that he'll strike anything down just to prove his point. That's not a debate: that's just being stubborn.

Haha I'm not being stubborn. Just pointing things out.

Aquaman: Weakness; need for water. Aquaman is aquatic and so needs to spend time underwater. This is put in more to get it out there. For theorizing purposes, I'm trying to keep fighters at peak form, so Aquaman would be good and should be for several hours at least. The only way Batman could use this is if they battle that long, in which case both would be fatigued.As for Aquaman's speed and strength, Batman has several rogues with similar advantages and they were beaten. While a normal human punch might not hurt Aquaman that much, nerve strikes and other technics that rely on finesce not strength might still work.Aquaman's training might be an issue, but that is mainly training for underwater combat. Aside from that, it all depends on the rules of engagement Aquaman was taught and follows. 

That's why I didn't point out the water bit. I doubt they would want to fight that long.

I'm not sure if Batman would be able to hit hard enough to strike a nerve. That sort of thing wouldn't work on someone like superman or Wonder Woman. Guess it depends on how hard skinned he really is.

Training that far underwater seems like it would make him stronger and faster above water. So really that would help him a lot.

But Superman is so unfairly powerful in some renditions that it's just stupid. Bats is a genius as well, that toppled with his time with the League of Shadows could make him hard to beat, despite having no powers and a bunch of gadgets. Plus obviously the kryptonite, if he did use it, then he would beat Supes because he knows like 7+ martial arts and bla bla bla

 

With the Flash, B-man is a tactical genius, and could anticipate his movements as such.

 

Shazam, if batman had a mystical weapon it could harm him, but I doubt he has something like that lool

 

Lantern, well that boyscouts ring will run out of power eventually.

 

Green Arrow is a definitely be a tie. Arrow is basically batman with a bow

 

But yeah, the batman can be beaten, but probably not in the easiest way.

 

But there is one dude who batman can't beat no matter what:

DUSKMAAAAaAN

That's why I didn't point out the water bit. I doubt they would want to fight that long. :PI'm not sure if Batman would be able to hit hard enough to strike a nerve. That sort of thing wouldn't work on someone like superman or Wonder Woman. Guess it depends on how hard skinned he really is.Training that far underwater seems like it would make him stronger and faster above water. So really that would help him a lot.

I was thinking about Aquaman's movements and tactics. Moving in water is different then in air plus there isn't as much maneuverability on land as there is in water, for a native of the water at least.