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Is the kingdom hearts in BBS the true kingdom hearts?

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I been watching youtube videos about kingdom hearts and I just seem to wonder if the one in BBS is the true Kingdom hearts.

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  1. 1. Is the kingdom hearts in BBS the true kingdom hearts?

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That is a good question. Kingdom Hearts is indeed an object, a tangible thing, maybe even a place. However, that does beg the question, there are three Kingdom Hearts shown throughout the games. The one in the Keyblade Graveyard, the one in the abyss in the first game, and the moon in the World that Never Was, are any of them the REAL Kingdom Hearts? Perhaps every world has its own special connection to Kingdom Hearts. Maybe the various ones we see are all the different paths to the same destination. It may very well be that the worlds orbit around an epicenter of Kingdom Hearts. This is purely speculation, but maybe we haven't seen the real Kingdom Hearts yet. Maybe we've only seen the pathways to it. So, to answer your question, yes and no. Yes, they all are the real Kingdom Hearts, but no, I don't think they're the REAL Kingdom Hearts, if that makes any sense.

Well , that's a weird but nice question . I'd say that Kingdom Hearts might change over time . Or it might be connected to the worlds differently . I mean , in BBS it looked kinda like the one in KH II . Maybe when KH I was being made , Nomura didn't think of how the Kingdom Hearts should be shaped .

Yes.Why do I have to explain? Why can't I just ignorantly toss in a baseless conclusion like how almost everyone else on the internet does?

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Well , that's a weird but nice question . I'd say that Kingdom Hearts might change over time . Or it might be connected to the worlds differently . I mean , in BBS it looked kinda like the one in KH II . Maybe when KH I was being made , Nomura didn't think of how the Kingdom Hearts should be shaped .

 

That is a good question. Kingdom Hearts is indeed an object, a tangible thing, maybe even a place. However, that does beg the question, there are three Kingdom Hearts shown throughout the games. The one in the Keyblade Graveyard, the one in the abyss in the first game, and the moon in the World that Never Was, are any of them the REAL Kingdom Hearts? Perhaps every world has its own special connection to Kingdom Hearts. Maybe the various ones we see are all the different paths to the same destination. It may very well be that the worlds orbit around an epicenter of Kingdom Hearts. This is purely speculation, but maybe we haven't seen the real Kingdom Hearts yet. Maybe we've only seen the pathways to it. So, to answer your question, yes and no. Yes, they all are the real Kingdom Hearts, but no, I don't think they're the REAL Kingdom Hearts, if that makes any sense.

Remember you see kingdom hearts in DDD too in Riku's story in the world that never was.

I believe it's been established the moon in TWTNW was an artificial Kingdom Hearts created by the Organization. So the narrows down the list.

Remember you see kingdom hearts in DDD too in Riku's story in the world that never was.

 

I believe it's been established the moon in TWTNW was an artificial Kingdom Hearts created by the Organization. So the narrows down the list.

Like I said, maybe the moon is a pathway that The World that Never Was has found and can use to get to Kingdom Hearts. Or maybe Org. XIII made it themselves.

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Like I said, maybe the moon is a pathway that The World that Never Was has found and can use to get to Kingdom Hearts. Or maybe Org. XIII made it themselves.

Is the kingdom hearts in DDD have a different color than the one in KH2? 

Personally, I think all the visual "Kingdom Hearts" that we've seen are just pathways to the real Kingdom Hearts. The Door to Darkness leads to the Realm of Darkness, which I believe has Kingdom Hearts in it. Even in the darkness, a light shines within.

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Personally, I think all the visual "Kingdom Hearts" that we've seen are just pathways to the real Kingdom Hearts. The Door to Darkness leads to the Realm of Darkness, which I believe has Kingdom Hearts in it. Even in the darkness, a light shines within.

The kingdom hearts in KH1 might be the same one in BBS because in BBS kingdom hearts got swallowed by the darkness never to be seen again. 

no none of us have seen the real kingdom hearts. its in the Ultimas.

The kingdom hearts in KH1 might be the same one in BBS because in BBS kingdom hearts got swallowed by the darkness never to be seen again. 

That happened before BBS during the Keyblade war, actually.

I always saw it as the other ones we see are artificial and the one in BBS is semi-made/incomplete version

No it is not, Xehanort mentioned that the real Kingdom Hearts was destroyed long time ago.

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No it is not, Xehanort mentioned that the real Kingdom Hearts was destroyed long time ago.

I thought the real one was the one that was seen in BBS. I guess I wasn't paying attention.

I thought the real one was the one that was seen in BBS. I guess I wasn't paying attention.

 

The best way to describe it is it's 'lost" never to be seen again since the keyblade war like it's stated in DDD. At the time BBS was made I think it prolly was intended to be real but DDD retconned that just like it retconned the conditions in which the X-blade was made . However, technically the X-blade was always incomplete even in BBS since Ven and Vanitas didn't fully merge and made that X-blade 'broken' or "incomplete" regardless. So I guess either way it was at least incomplete no matter what.

Well, according to Nomura in Director's Secret Report 13 (XIII, whatever), it is implied that the differing colors of Kingdom Hearts is due to the nature of its assemblage. The Kingdom Hearts made by Organization XIII was assembled from the "hearts of men," meaning the hearts of people, turned into Heartless, were compiled into it. In Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep, the χ-blade unlocked Kingdom Hearts from "the hearts of worlds," meaning the hearts of entire worlds were assembled for its creation. 
By this, I can assume that Nomura uses the term "assembled" literally. So, being that both were actually artificially made, and assuming that during Aqua's travels in the world of Darkness in FM's secret episode thingie (by this I assume that either BBS's Kingdom Hearts or another version of it was sealed in the darkness, as is shown in KH1), I conclude that we haven't actually seen THE Kingdom Hearts. 

I have a feeling, to make things firework-spectacular, that KH3 will show the real true Kingdom Hearts. Just a feeling, though. 

I've been playing the Kingdom Hearts series for over a decade- I still have no idea what Kingdom Hearts actually is

 

Well, according to Nomura in Director's Secret Report 13 (XIII, whatever), it is implied that the differing colors of Kingdom Hearts is due to the nature of its assemblage. The Kingdom Hearts made by Organization XIII was assembled from the "hearts of men," meaning the hearts of people, turned into Heartless, were compiled into it. In Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep, the χ-blade unlocked Kingdom Hearts from "the hearts of worlds," meaning the hearts of entire worlds were assembled for its creation. 

By this, I can assume that Nomura uses the term "assembled" literally. So, being that both were actually artificially made, and assuming that during Aqua's travels in the world of Darkness in FM's secret episode thingie (by this I assume that either BBS's Kingdom Hearts or another version of it was sealed in the darkness, as is shown in KH1), I conclude that we haven't actually seen THE Kingdom Hearts. 

 

I have a feeling, to make things firework-spectacular, that KH3 will show the real true Kingdom Hearts. Just a feeling, though. 

 

 

Wouldn't the Kingdom Hearts made from worlds be the one from KH 1? The whole plot was to search for the keyhole leading into the heart of each world

Wouldn't the Kingdom Hearts made from worlds be the one from KH 1? The whole plot was to search for the keyhole leading into the heart of each world

 

You are correct . The one in BBS was because the X-blade was incompletely forged 

The Kingdom Hearts in both KH1 and KH2 were artificially made. The one in BBS in kinda a mystery since DDD retcons it's meaning/existence since Xehanort himself states that Kingdom Hearts hasn't been seen again since the keyblade war. So i guess that means that one isn't real or was incomplete as well just like the X-blade was incomplete and therefore not genuine .

 

 

Also just to add the one in DDD was in a dream .

Seriously, you are awesome. If I ever have any questions, you're the gal.

I've been playing the Kingdom Hearts series for over a decade- I still have no idea what Kingdom Hearts actually is

 

 

Wouldn't the Kingdom Hearts made from worlds be the one from KH 1? The whole plot was to search for the keyhole leading into the heart of each world

 

I'm pretty sure it's been referred to as 'the heart of ALL worlds - Kingdom Hearts' 

 

I realise this isn't even useful information...... carry on!

Well, the one in BBS was technically the real one but also wasn't because the X-Blade was incompletely and incorrectly forged as it was made only from one Light and one Darkness so I imagine that the one in KH3 will not only have the complete and more powerful X-Blade but it will also have the True Kingdom Hearts and I myself REALLY hope that it's either a world or is at least explored in another way. :D

 

 

Seriously, you are awesome. If I ever have any questions, you're the gal.

I couldn't agree more. :)

Wouldn't the Kingdom Hearts made from worlds be the one from KH 1? The whole plot was to search for the keyhole leading into the heart of each world

 

Is it? Is it not? It COULD be. I'm not saying that it is, or that it isn't. Kingdom Hearts doesn't exactly have the "what you see is exactly what you get"-type agenda. E.g. Ansem not being the real Ansem, Roxas having Ventus's heart, Eraqus actually being inside Terra instead of fully dying, etc. So it could be that one, or maybe not. 

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