Tails 6,690 Posted July 27, 2015 (edited) They have to wait a decade for their games to come out, they're stuck with buggy/lazy HD ports, they have to deal with the "Please be excited" or "Please wait alittle longer" lines the developers give them constantly, gets lots of news droughts about the game they're excited for, has been getting bad to mediocre Final Fantasy games, and are constantly having Lightning get shoved down their throats. I'm not trying to be a troll or anything but man the SE fanbase sure has it bad. Though it's not as worse as Capcom and SEGA fanbase has it though. Edited July 27, 2015 by Tails 1 Dio Brando reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted July 27, 2015 They have to wait a decade for their games to come out, they're stuck with buggy/lazy HD ports, they have to deal with the "Please be excited" or "Please wait alittle longer" lines the developers give them constantly, gets lots of news droughts about the game they're excited for, has been getting bad to mediocre Final Fantasy games, and are constantly having Lightning get shoved down their throats. I'm not trying to be a troll or anything but man the SE fanbase sure has it bad. Though it's not as worse as Capcom and SEGA fanbase has it though. You can blame Nomura for all that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tails 6,690 Posted July 27, 2015 You can blame Nomura for all that. And Toriyama. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted July 27, 2015 And Toriyama. Toriyama actually managed to get all his games out in a perfectly playable manner on a medium budget in a very short amount of time and a lot of people actually liked them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aqua7KH 5,395 Posted July 27, 2015 Am I the only one who doesn't really mind the wait for KH3? Yeah I've been waiting for it for a while now but I'm actually pretty patient... I'm completely happy as a Square girl in the fanbase. I'm happy with just knowing that KH3 is coming. As for the HD releases, I haven't played the Remixes yet but I'm pretty sure it's not THAT bad. Yeah, there's the Xemnas reaction command glitch but it isn't game breaking. It's annoying but I can live with it. 12 MickeyTheMick, Master Eraqus, Tails and 9 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tails 6,690 Posted July 27, 2015 Toriyama actually managed to get all his games out in a perfectly playable manner on a medium budget in a very short amount of time and a lot of people actually liked them. Yeah but he was the one that tried to make Lightning the next Cloud. Also didn't the FF XIII series receive a lot of backlash? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted July 27, 2015 Yeah but he was the one that tried to make Lightning the next Cloud. Also didn't the FF XIII series receive a lot of backlash? He tried to make a female version of Cloud correct and Nomura was happy to do so. XIII did due to being linear, but that was Kitase's idea and it was plagued with development issues. They tried making towns and even DLC but development issues meant they couldn't. XIII-2 and LR correctly addressed all criticisms of the first game under a lot smaller budgets. X/X-2 HD was also an amazing HD remaster. Am I the only one who doesn't really mind the wait for KH3? Yeah I've been waiting for it for a while now but I'm actually pretty patient... I'm completely happy as a Square girl in the fanbase. I'm happy with just knowing that KH3 is coming.As for the HD releases, I haven't played the Remixes yet but I'm pretty sure it's not THAT bad. Yeah, there's the Xemnas reaction command glitch but it isn't game breaking. It's annoying but I can live with it. Yeah, there aren't that many issues with the HD ReMIXes but there should be some concern since that's the team making KH3. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tails 6,690 Posted July 27, 2015 Am I the only one who doesn't really mind the wait for KH3? Yeah I've been waiting for it for a while now but I'm actually pretty patient... I'm completely happy as a Square girl in the fanbase. I'm happy with just knowing that KH3 is coming.As for the HD releases, I haven't played the Remixes yet but I'm pretty sure it's not THAT bad. Yeah, there's the Xemnas reaction command glitch but it isn't game breaking. It's annoying but I can live with it. Wel,there is FFXV/Versus XIII too. Also, not only do the reaction commands not work, there are also unneccesary load times and some bug glitches. Just putting that out there. But yeah I agree with you. The HD remixes are not that bad. Heck their best HD remaster iFFX/X-2. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted July 27, 2015 Wel,there is FFXV/Versus XIII too. Also, not only do the reaction commands not work, there are also unneccesary load times and some bug glitches. Just putting that out there. But yeah I agree with you. The HD remixes are not that bad. Heck their best HD remaster iFFX/X-2. There's also Toriyama's new title, likely to be X-3. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FerroAxel7 237 Posted July 27, 2015 It's to be expected. Ya just gotta stay patient and positive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted July 27, 2015 Square fans have it good compared to most fanbases Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeyMouseSayCheese 1,133 Posted July 27, 2015 Better than being a Valve fan. At least SE makes games every now and again. 1 Sendou Aichi reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted July 27, 2015 Better than being a Valve fan. At least SE makes games every now and again. Yes, Motomu Toriyama directed five games between 2007 & 2013 as well as did scenario work for various titles and supervised an amazing HD collection. 1 WakelessDream reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dio Brando 5,810 Posted July 27, 2015 They have to wait a decade for their games to come out, they're stuck with buggy/lazy HD ports, they have to deal with the "Please be excited" or "Please wait alittle longer" lines the developers give them constantly, gets lots of news droughts about the game they're excited for, has been getting bad to mediocre Final Fantasy games, and are constantly having Lightning get shoved down their throats. I'm not trying to be a troll or anything but man the SE fanbase sure has it bad. Though it's not as worse as Capcom and SEGA fanbase has it though. Pretty much why I prefer Atlus nowadays Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Setrex 1,031 Posted July 27, 2015 (edited) Pretty much why I prefer Atlus nowadays Atlus are cool if you live in America or Japan. It's a shame that they like to pretend that Europe doesn't exist though. Edited July 27, 2015 by KHSoraKeyBlade Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dio Brando 5,810 Posted July 27, 2015 Atlus are cool if you live in America or Japan. It's a shame that they like to pretend that Europe doesn't exist though. Dude,that's because they don't have a European branch,Atlus isn't as big as you think and they do have an excuse for why the EU releases are that late 1 Tails reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Setrex 1,031 Posted July 27, 2015 Dude,that's because they don't have a European branch,Atlus isn't as big as you think and they do have an excuse for why the EU releases are that late Don't Sega own them though? They could get them to handle European localisations. Heck even they get others to publish the games in Europe most of the time so I don't see why they don't just partner up with someone early on instead of flat out delaying games for up to over a year (in some cases). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dio Brando 5,810 Posted July 28, 2015 Don't Sega own them though? They could get them to handle European localisations. Heck even they get others to publish the games in Europe most of the time so I don't see why they don't just partner up with someone early on instead of flat out delaying games for up to over a year (in some cases). Yeah but the operate individually and Sega only owned them in late 2013 and even then,Sega is struggling financially too and they only publish Sonic stuff and some licensed Alien games They do partner with outside publisher but the process is not as easy or as smooth as you think And really,if the game ends up being good,isn't that enough to forgive a publisher,let alone a small one,for?Heck importing isn't a bad option Just do a little comparison of how much critical acclaim Persona 4 got compared to most of Square's games for the past decade especially the XIII trilogy. Atlus put their heart and soul into their games especially the Persona series and polish every aspect of them not just flashy graphics. They're not delaying games in Europe just to be mean like what you think,they literally don't have the mean to do it. 1 Tails reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted July 28, 2015 Funny how you bring up Persona 4, published by Square Enix in Europe & Australia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dio Brando 5,810 Posted July 28, 2015 Funny how you bring up Persona 4, published by Square Enix in Europe & Australia. Well cuz like I said,Atlus has no branch in Europe or Australia And Square has nothing to do with the development of Persona 4,heck back in the SNES era they did publish Breath of Fire by Capcom but they had nothing to do with it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted July 28, 2015 Well cuz like I said,Atlus has no branch in Europe or Australia And Square has nothing to do with the development of Persona 4,heck back in the SNES era they did publish Breath of Fire by Capcom but they had nothing to do with it I know, I never said they did. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shulk 8,623 Posted July 28, 2015 To be fair, this only relates to the Square side of the company. Enix still makes great games, the only problem is that a lot of them haven't been released outside Japan lately. Hopefully Dragon Quest Heroes will be the first of many DQ games to be localized. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted July 29, 2015 To be fair, this only relates to the Square side of the company. Enix still makes great games, the only problem is that a lot of them haven't been released outside Japan lately. Hopefully Dragon Quest Heroes will be the first of many DQ games to be localized. One of the two Enix departments mostly just makes arcade games now. Lol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shulk 8,623 Posted July 29, 2015 One of the two Enix departments mostly just makes arcade games now. Lol. Enix still works on Dragon Quest though, and the Dragon Quest games are fantastic. The fanbase isn't nearly as divided as Final Fantasy's in terms of the quality of games in its respective series. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted July 29, 2015 Enix still works on Dragon Quest though, and the Dragon Quest games are fantastic. The fanbase isn't nearly as divided as Final Fantasy's in terms of the quality of games in its respective series. The Dragon Quest division also makes Bravely and Nier btw. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites