Seriously, this game is the worst. The worlds are boring and empty, the battle system is overly complicated, and the characters are almost not attractive at all. The only reason I'm trudging through this is for the plot, but it's really hard to keep playing.

 

This Terra dude, is it just me or is this a flat out Riku clone? It's not just a similarity either, he's EXACTLY the same. He's the moody guy of the three, the most mature one, and the one who lets himself be controlled by darkness, all the while stating he doesn't fear the darkness over and over again. He also seems to team up with Disney villains much like Riku. The only difference is Riku is a well thought out, interesting character, while this guy seems like a cheap impersonation.

 

Ventus... What the hell can I say, he's Roxas. Except with a different name and batshit crazy clothes that look like they were sewed together from different pieces. He's the exact same as Roxas, in personality and in looks (except clothes). Also the Sora of the group.

 

Aqua is the Kaira of the group, except she's a bit more battle-ready. Flat, boring character who doesn't have anything interesting going for her at all.

 

I also think the three storylines thing was a really bad idea. I gotta wait two playthroughs to see the conclusion to each world. Not only that, I kinda want to shoot myself when thinking of having to play through this game two more times.

 

There are some interesting things in this game, like Vanitas, Xehanort, and Braig, but there's not ENOUGH. Deep Space, where the hell is Xehanort? Where is Vanitas? Why are there only the stupid Disney characters?

 

What the hell is Disney Town? Everywhere I go there's some kind of minigame. Do I have to complete this shit to progress in the game? God, just let me fight Vanitas, or show some background history on the other future Organization members. I don't give a crap about Experiment 626 or whatever.

 

Oh, and one more thing. Olympus Colliseum. PLOT TWIST! You got used by Hades! Didn't see that one coming! Seriously, just kill me...

 

I could go on, but for now I'm done ranting.

Huh. Reminds me of when I rant.

Well I have to say I like Ventus' story a lot more then Terra's. The Maleficent boss fight was really cool.

Well I have to say I like Ventus' story a lot more then Terra's. The Maleficent boss fight was really cool.

 

Sounds like you jumped the gun way too early with the ranting lol. Well seeing as how BbS isn't exactly one of my top games either (in terms of story and characters) I'm not as "hurt" or "shocked" as some people but it'd be interesting to see what you're opinion is after you finish the whole game. 

I could write an essay opposing this and telling BBS was great but I'm going to tell all of that in four words:

 

Terra. isn't. a. Riku. Clone.

I could write an essay opposing this and telling BBS was great but I'm going to tell all of that in four words:

 

Terra. isn't. a. Riku. Clone.

 

That's actually very true. Riku was a well developed character with a story arc that made logical sense in regards to his personality and character. When Riku starts to dabble in the dark arts, we see that it makes perfect sense for his character to do so, events driving him to such an end. What's more, it happens gradually over a long period of time, so the audience gets to see how he falls and understand his position in the story, rather than have him do a sudden heel-turn out of the blue. The part that I love the most, though, is that Riku always believes he is perfectly justified in everything that he does, and there's always a method to his madness: he thinks that Sora has stopped caring about him, so he stops caring about Sora; He wants to protect Kairi, so he tries to become stronger in every way he can. Yet the further he goes, the more and more morally questionable his decisions become, so even though we understand him, we can see that he's going down the wrong path. The whole idea of Darkness being this empowering but unseen gnawing force is embodied in Riku, and I love that theme in the first game: everyone who tries to use Darkness for their own ends fails to notice that its corrupting them until its too late.

 

And Terra is definitely not a clone of that.

 

 

It still counts as focusing on the positive.

Sora wields a keyblade on his own and dual wields because of Ven. Nomura himself stated Sora was always destined to wield and gets nothing from Ven except for the second keyblade... This is why Sora still wields after becoming a walking heart in the end of Kh1 when Roxas  was formed and had Ven's heart inside him . He wielded that way all the way till they were re-merged in KH2.

 

I realize that its probably just because they didn't think about it at the time, but is there anything Story wise that says why Sora couldn't dual wield in the first game?

I realize that its probably just because they didn't think about it at the time, but is there anything Story wise that says why Sora couldn't dual wield in the first game?

One , it wasn't thought of yet in the first game. Secondly, Ven's heart was sleeping anyways till the shock and hurt Roxas felt when Xion died 'awakened' the ability to use Ven's keyblade.. This was confirmed by Nomura when discussing why Roxas was able to dual wield only after Xion died . Because of this people thought he was wielding Xion's but hers was fake and Nomura basically explained that it was actually Ven's keyblade and why.

Edited February 10, 201312 yr by Flaming Lea

One , it wasn't thought of yet in the first game. Secondly, Ven's heart was sleeping anyways till the shock and hurt Roxas felt when Xion died 'awakened' the ability to use Ven's keyblade.. This was confirmed by Nomura when discussing why Roxas was able to dual wield only after Xion died . Because of this people thought he was wielding Xion's but hers was fake and Nomura basically explained that it was actually Ven's keyblade and why.

Alrighty. So, when they go to wake up Ventus, that means Sora will not be able to Dual Wield again?

Alrighty. So, when they go to wake up Ventus, that means Sora will not be able to Dual Wield again?

 

By the conditions Nomura has laid out about what's needed for this ability, yes he should lose his dual wielding ability after Ven is revived.

By the conditions Nomura has laid out about what's needed for this ability, yes he should lose his dual wielding ability after Ven is revived.

You should be a moderator.

You should be a moderator.

 

 

LOL ! Thx

That's actually very true. Riku was a well developed character with a story arc that made logical sense in regards to his personality and character. When Riku starts to dabble in the dark arts, we see that it makes perfect sense for his character to do so, events driving him to such an end. What's more, it happens gradually over a long period of time, so the audience gets to see how he falls and understand his position in the story, rather than have him do a sudden heel-turn out of the blue. The part that I love the most, though, is that Riku always believes he is perfectly justified in everything that he does, and there's always a method to his madness: he thinks that Sora has stopped caring about him, so he stops caring about Sora; He wants to protect Kairi, so he tries to become stronger in every way he can. Yet the further he goes, the more and more morally questionable his decisions become, so even though we understand him, we can see that he's going down the wrong path. The whole idea of Darkness being this empowering but unseen gnawing force is embodied in Riku, and I love that theme in the first game: everyone who tries to use Darkness for their own ends fails to notice that its corrupting them until its too late.

 

And Terra is definitely not a clone of that.

 

 

It still counts as focusing on the positive.

 

Indeed.  Unlike Riku, Terra knew there was a problem with the darkness, but unlike Riku, he didn't exactly suffer its negative effects.  Terra fights an internal battle with his darkness but his story is mostly driven by external factors, like Obviously Evil (to players, not to him) characters taking advantage of him.  The only time his darkness screwed him over was when Maleficent influenced his heart to steal Aurora's, and when MX managed to overtake his body because the darkness he embraced weakened it.  So yeah, Terra isn't a Riku clone.  The only thing he really learns is Darkness Is Bad, which is a theme BBS set up to begin with because I guess they forgot Riku could use his for good.

Indeed.  Unlike Riku, Terra knew there was a problem with the darkness, but unlike Riku, he didn't exactly suffer its negative effects.  Terra fights an internal battle with his darkness but his story is mostly driven by external factors, like Obviously Evil (to players, not to him) characters taking advantage of him.  The only time his darkness screwed him over was when Maleficent influenced his heart to steal Aurora's, and when MX managed to overtake his body because the darkness he embraced weakened it.  So yeah, Terra isn't a Riku clone.  The only thing he really learns is Darkness Is Bad, which is a theme BBS set up to begin with because I guess they forgot Riku could use his for good.

 

 

But he didn't steal Aurora's heart . He was only tricked into thinking he did . It was MX and Maleficent who did as part of their plan . Nomura even stated that Terra doesn't even possess the ability to even do so even if he wanted to.

But he didn't steal Aurora's heart . He was only tricked into thinking he did . It was MX and Maleficent who did as part of their plan . Nomura even stated that Terra doesn't even possess the ability to even do so even if he wanted to.

 

Whoops, forgot about that.  But that just proves my point even further; Terra spends his story grappling with the darkness, but what does the darkness actually do to him or harm other people until the very end?  His story is one big internal battle that doesn't actually do anything to anyone, including himself until the end.  The only thing he and Riku have in common is doing what they must for their friends, keyblades, and the presence of darkness in their hearts.  However, Riku's darkness actually does stuff to him and others.

Whoops, forgot about that.  But that just proves my point even further; Terra spends his story grappling with the darkness, but what does the darkness actually do to him or harm other people until the very end?  His story is one big internal battle that doesn't actually do anything to anyone, including himself until the end.  The only thing he and Riku have in common is doing what they must for their friends, keyblades, and the presence of darkness in their hearts.  However, Riku's darkness actually does stuff to him and others.

 

I'm not disputing your point. Just had to point out he didn't steal her heart.

 

Whoops, forgot about that. But that just proves my point even further; Terra spends his story grappling with the darkness, but what does the darkness actually do to him or harm other people until the very end? His story is one big internal battle that doesn't actually do anything to anyone, including himself until the end. The only thing he and Riku have in common is doing what they must for their friends, keyblades, and the presence of darkness in their hearts. However, Riku's darkness actually does stuff to him and others.

Well obviously the darkness in Terra's heart was strong enough for Xehanort to take a personal interest and focus on him. What Terra and Riku have in common is that they are quick to believe the words of people with evil intentions, like Xehanort, Hades, or Maleficent. Also both of them lost their body to darkness in the end, and ultimately they both succumbed to darkness.The only difference I can see is that Riku eventually takes control back.Holy firetruck, I thought that racing minigame was annoying. But this ice-cream Guitar Hero knockoff tops it all. It makes me want to murder little children. What the firetruck do I have to do to not score BAD? I don't need this game to tell me my timing sucks, I know that already.

 

Edit: Wow passed after fifty tries or so. Apparently when you do good, you still do bad because you're game over. I can't even imagine how horrible this must be for people who are tone-deaf.

Edited February 10, 201312 yr by JustRob

Well obviously the darkness in Terra's heart was strong enough for Xehanort to take a personal interest and focus on him. What Terra and Riku have in common is that they are quick to believe the words of people with evil intentions, like Xehanort, Hades, or Maleficent. Also both of them lost their body to darkness in the end, and ultimately they both succumbed to darkness.The only difference I can see is that Riku eventually takes control back.Holy firetruck, I thought that racing minigame was annoying. But this ice-cream Guitar Hero knockoff tops it all. It makes me want to murder little children. What the firetruck do I have to do to not score BAD? I don't need this game to tell me my timing sucks, I know that already.

 

Edit: Wow passed after fifty tries or so. Apparently when you do good, you still do bad because you're game over. I can't even imagine how horrible this must be for people who are tone-deaf.

 

Then go by the visual cues! I personally loved that mini-game.

I'm actually really really shocked to here this. I have quit a few friends who love kingdom hearts and they all say that BBS is probably the best installment of the game. I agree, I mean this is the game where you actually find out the most about the kingdom hearts franchise. And the characters are so awesome! And vary emotional part of KH. Aqua, Terra, and Ventus show the strength of friendship. Aqua went to great lengths to prtect her friends. Now that I think of it so did Terra and Ventus. 

Allow me to offer an alternative handheld game.

 

 

I'm sure you'll like this combat system much better.

 

 

Always remember: It could be worse.

 

That feel when you love that game.

This one was my fav...have you played chain of memories, They are suppose to be the same as Sora, Riku, Kairi because if you notice they formed a bond with each one. The reason Ven is a Roxas clone is because (spoiler) Ven fuses with Sora in the end and when Sora releases his heart in the first one to save Kairi, Roses took the form of Ven instead of Sora, Axel looks like Lea, Saix looks like Isa, Xaldin looks like Dilan, Vexen looks line Even, why didn't Roxas look like Sora...did you think of that.

 

Your opinion...It's different from mine. I automatically hate you now. No way will I respect your opinion, just no way!

hating someone because they dont share the same opinion is dumb, you will end up being alone cause no one shares the same opinion on everything.

Edited February 25, 201312 yr by Mystics Apprentice

hating someone because they dont share the same opinion is dumb, you will end up being alone cause no one shares the same opinion on everything.

Namikaze was joking and representing how some people actually are like that. 

Allow me to offer an alternative handheld game.

 

 

I'm sure you'll like this combat system much better.

 

 

Always remember: It could be worse.

 

you beat me to the punch line...lol

Namikaze was joking and representing how some people actually are like that.

ah okay...sorry Namikaze

Most of your complaints can be said about most of the hand held KH games. But you're pointing the finger at the least offender. Coded offered pretty much nothing new, reused same characters/worlds and told an irrelevant story. BBS may use the same formula as a tale of 3 people traveling across various Disney worlds, but offered so much more than the others. This isn't KH III here. Are you seriously saying Coded stands out more than BBS?

I didnt even take the effort in playing coded

I pity you for how many times you've had to tell people this, pretty much word for word..... myself, admittedly, included!

Sora can use a keyblade because Ven fused with him, (simular to Ichigo and Rukia in Bleach) he can dual wield because of the Fairies (you loose Goofy), Roxas second keyblade is Xions

Well I have to say I like Ventus' story a lot more then Terra's. The Maleficent boss fight was really cool.

Maleficent fight with Aqua's my fav

Edited February 25, 201312 yr by Mystics Apprentice

hating someone because they dont share the same opinion is dumb, you will end up being alone cause no one shares the same opinion on everything.

 

Yup. Alone I shall be

Edited February 25, 201312 yr by Namikaze

Sora can use a keyblade because Ven fused with him, (simular to Ichigo and Rukia in Bleach) he can dual wield because of the Fairies (you loose Goofy), Roxas second keyblade is Xions

 

 

Sora's heart isnt fused with Ven .His heart gave Ven's heart refuge in his so he could heal. Theres a difference. He wields his very own keyblade and dual wields bc of Ven . .Roxas dual wields bc he uses Sora's keyblade and Ven's---- Vens heart was in him and when Xion died the emotions helped awaken Ven's hearts keyblade. Xion's keyblade was FAKE . This is canon fact. The faeries clothes only helped Sora use his inner potential . All of this I just stated is canon fact confirmed by Nomura. Read the interviews . They are all available on this site.

 

 

Q1: Why do Roxas and Ventus look alike?*

 

A: Because inside Sora, which is Roxas’ body, is Ventus’ heart. As was shown in the opening to BbS and the ending to Last Episode, Sora and Ventus’ heart are linked. And so Roxas, who is a part of Sora, was affected by that and looks just like Ventus.

 

This doesn't get any clearer then this. Roxas who is literally Sora's body was affected by Ventus's heart. 

Since the heart shapes the vessel Sora's body was molded to look like Ventus as his heart remained in Sora's body. Had Ven's heart not been present Roxas would have looked like Sora not Ven.

 

 

*Q2: Why did Roxas faint in Castle Oblivion on Day 297?*

 

A: Because he had gotten to close to both Sora and Ventus, his “real self”.Before Day 297 in Days Sora had been to Castle Oblivion, as well as the fact that Ventus is asleep somewhere in the Room of Awakening. Both Sora and Ventus can be called Roxas’ “real selves”, and when he felt their presence it made him faint.

 

This further emulates the point about the location of Ven's heart. Roxas's fainted because Ven's heart was so close to his body, and Roxas(Sora's Body) was so close to his heart. Had Ven's heart not been within Roxas he woud not be included in Roxas's true selves.

 

 

*Q3 is basically the same question as 1 confirming Roxas has Ven's heart*

 

*Q4: Why can Roxas dual-wield?*

 

A: Because he can use both Sora’s and Ventus’ keyblades. Sora can wield two keyblades at once because he has Ventus’ as well as his own. As Roxas is a part of Sora, he also can use two. In Days Roxas awakened his ability to dual wield after fighting Xion. In KHII once, Sora absorbs him, he can also dual-wield. 

 

Again if Roxas did not have Ven's heart he would have no means to access Ven's keyblade.

 

 

Nomura: Well, it isn’t that Roxas has physically inherited Xion’s keyblade, but more that Xion has awakened it within Roxas. In the KH series there are a lot of complex reasons why someone can use a keyblade, but basically you need a “heart” to be able to wield one. So strictly speaking, they are being influenced by Sora.

 

Namine tells Riku that in order for Sora's memories to be restored, both Sora's Nobody and Xion must no longer exist. So he takes it on himself to defeat them, but when he and Roxas fought, was that the first time he had realized that Roxas was that Nobody?

 

Nomura: Riku only realizes it when Roxas takes off his hood and he can see his face, and he responds to his call. Until then he only half believed. When he first met Xion, he didn't think that she was Sora or Kairi's Nobody, and it was the same with Roxas. When he first saw Roxas, he had no proof of who he was. So that's why he lost to Roxas, he was surprised at him using a real keyblade rather than an imitation like Xion's, and he called out to him. Part of Riku didn't really want to believe that his best friend really had a Nobody.

Edited February 25, 201312 yr by Flaming Lea

Birth by sleep was the beginning thats how it all started and if it wasnt for them there wouldnt be any Kingdom hearts, Kingdom hearts 2 etc..