Britipinojeff 95 Posted April 18, 2013 like we know that Aqua created it to conceal Ven, but like how come no one's found Ven? the Org has been in there, Sora has gone through its 13 floors and Riku has found his way out of the basement. It's not exactly the huge maze that Eraqus said it should be. And i guess there are other things to think about too like how does Xemnas freaking know about the room to awakening. or why does axel and saix know about it?v Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TerraRedeemed 255 Posted April 18, 2013 Saix knows about it because Xemnas knows about it. And it hasn't been found because its convenient for the plot. Perhaps a specific card is needed or perhaps only Eraqus' Keyblade will reveal it or something like that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted April 18, 2013 (edited) Because only Aqua has the proper memories to get to Ven since the rooms literally change according to those memories. Also, Xemnas knows about the room just not how to find it and therefore Saix and Axel did. Axel was even sent to find it but failed. Edited April 18, 2013 by Flaming Lea 8 MythrilMagician, Weiss, Reyn and 5 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Britipinojeff 95 Posted April 18, 2013 Because only Aqua has the proper memories to get to Ven since the rooms literally change according to those memories. Also, Xemnas knows about the room just not how to find it and therefore Saix and Axel did. Axel was even sent to find it but failed. but was axel sent to find it on Xemnas' orders or Saix;s? cuz wasnt Saix trying to take over the Organization? or was he just trying to rise the ranks? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rikunobodyxiii 700 Posted April 18, 2013 Well, for Sora and Riku did go through the castle, but not all of it. Neither of them find where Namine was being held or where the Basement crowd hung out. So there are rooms unaccount for in their movements. As for Xemnas knowing about the Room of Awakening, I think it is linked to him talking to Aqua's armor and a voice answering. The voice might be Aqua, but it doesn't perfectly fit with the glimpses we have seen of Aqua's time in The Realm of Darkness. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TerraRedeemed 255 Posted April 18, 2013 but was axel sent to find it on Xemnas' orders or Saix;s? cuz wasnt Saix trying to take over the Organization? or was he just trying to rise the ranks? The answer to this question is a spoiler for Dream Drop Distance if you haven't played it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted April 18, 2013 (edited) but was axel sent to find it on Xemnas' orders or Saix;s? cuz wasnt Saix trying to take over the Organization? or was he just trying to rise the ranks? Well technically both since Xemnas issues his orders through Saix xDDD Yes both Axel and Saix were planning to take over and rebel AND Saix was trying to rise in rank to get closer to Xemnas so they could try to find out what Xemnas was hiding..They just never succeeded in finding what he was hiding.. Edited April 18, 2013 by Flaming Lea 2 Demyx. and luka reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TerraRedeemed 255 Posted April 18, 2013 Well, for Sora and Riku did go through the castle, but not all of it. Neither of them find where Namine was being held or where the Basement crowd hung out. So there are rooms unaccount for in their movements.As for Xemnas knowing about the Room of Awakening, I think it is linked to him talking to Aqua's armor and a voice answering. The voice might be Aqua, but it doesn't perfectly fit with the glimpses we have seen of Aqua's time in The Realm of Darkness. Xemnas may have just been using the armor as a method of communication between the two rooms in order to speak to Ven. How ever that would work. Just a theory. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Britipinojeff 95 Posted April 18, 2013 Well technically both since Xemnas issues his orders through Saix xDDD Yes both Axel and Saix were planning to take over and rebel AND Saix was trying to rise in rank to get closer to Xemnas so they could try to find out what Xemnas was hiding..They just never succeeded in finding what he was hiding.. well considering what happened to saix i think its safe to say that he got pretty close to xemnas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rikunobodyxiii 700 Posted April 18, 2013 Xemnas may have just been using the armor as a method of communication between the two rooms in order to speak to Ven. How ever that would work. Just a theory. Maybe...but Ven shouldn't be in any condition to answer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zola 3,038 Posted April 18, 2013 "From that day forward, all who visit this land will be lost to oblivion, none ever able to solve the mystery. None, Aqua, except you." Voila 3 Sonic, K1ngd0mH3artsFanat1c and Mystics Apprentice reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hei 3,233 Posted April 18, 2013 I am waiting for someone to yell "OPEN SESAME" and a door will open with Ven inside 3 keyofdestiny, MythrilMagician and Keyblader reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted April 18, 2013 well considering what happened to saix i think its safe to say that he got pretty close to xemnas LOL well it didn't help that Saix was 'norted ' and most likely didn't even know it since both Axel and him never trusted Xemnas and were convinced not only was he hiding something , but that they weren't really gonna get their hearts back through him . Boy they were right ... 2 Demyx. and luka reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TerraRedeemed 255 Posted April 18, 2013 Maybe...but Ven shouldn't be in any condition to answer. Very true. Then it's a complete mystery haha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteCrow 55 Posted April 18, 2013 We need to send in a search party. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reyn 1,755 Posted April 18, 2013 Well, for Sora and Riku did go through the castle, but not all of it. Neither of them find where Namine was being held or where the Basement crowd hung out. So there are rooms unaccount for in their movements.As for Xemnas knowing about the Room of Awakening, I think it is linked to him talking to Aqua's armor and a voice answering. The voice might be Aqua, but it doesn't perfectly fit with the glimpses we have seen of Aqua's time in The Realm of Darkness. Well, the voice is actually Young Xehanort trying to recruit Xemnas for the XIII darknesses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rikunobodyxiii 700 Posted April 18, 2013 Well, the voice is actually Young Xehanort trying to recruit Xemnas for the XIII darknesses.Dream Drop Distance? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reyn 1,755 Posted April 18, 2013 Dream Drop Distance? Yeah. Thats most likely what the voice was, since i doubt it was Aqua. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Britipinojeff 95 Posted April 18, 2013 Well, the voice is actually Young Xehanort trying to recruit Xemnas for the XIII darknesses. shit thats probably true. it'd make sense that Xemnas would decide to travel across time when goin into the room of sleep, but why would Even act as if he did this often? in a scene in kh2fm he says something along the lines of "we need him right now and he goes to sleep" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TerraRedeemed 255 Posted April 18, 2013 (edited) It hasn't been said thats what the voice is specifically....but it's an interesting theory. EDIT Edited April 18, 2013 by TerraRedeemed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted April 18, 2013 It's never been said who he was talking to there so it's all speculation except for the fact Aqua's armor is also there .Also Xemnas doesn't really time travel, YMX did and picked up all the 'norts along the way including him . 2 Demyx. and luka reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TerraRedeemed 255 Posted April 18, 2013 shit thats probably true. it'd make sense that Xemnas would decide to travel across time when goin into the room of sleep, but why would Even act as if he did this often? in a scene in kh2fm he says something along the lines of "we need him right now and he goes to sleep" Xemnas does make more than one appearance in 3D. He could have just gone when ever he needed to make an appearance. Since time doesn't flow normally in the dream worlds it could be irrelevant when he actually showed up. Just adding to the theory. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyblader 325 Posted April 18, 2013 I'm going to take a guess at how Xemnas came to learn of Ven being in the Castle in the first place. (I wouldn't be surprised if this theory was something I read somewhere but forgot about it.) So we all know that Mr. Mansex has been chatting up Aqua's armor right? I think we'd be pretty safe in assuming that lingering spirit of Aqua's armor mentioned something about "another friend" (Ventus) and where he was (A chamber of Castle Oblivion). That's probably how the Organization found the Castle in the first place. Also, as to the reason why the Organization has never found Ventus, you have to remember that Castle Oblivion is basically a maze. As Master Eraqus said it: "From that day forward, all who visit this land will be lost to oblivion, none ever able to solve the mystery. None Aqua, except you." Aqua is the only person who is able to get anywhere in Castle Oblivion, that's why the Organization couldn't find Ventus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MythrilMagician 6,963 Posted April 18, 2013 my guess is the next game will be based on finding aqua and ven and freeing terra from xehanort's cluthes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TerraRedeemed 255 Posted April 18, 2013 I have a sad feeling that Terra won't be able to be saved for some reason Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
