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The Legend of Zelda - Series Discussion

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Thinking about buying one or the other for the Gamecube. Don't know why I didn't buy these before xD

 

Anyways, which one do you think is better? Or should I just save up and get both?

 

 

Had no idea people liked Wind Waker so much lol

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Thinking about buying one or the other for the Gamecube. Don't know why I didn't buy these before xD

 

Anyways, which one do you think is better? Or should I just save up and get both?

 

Personally, i think Wind Waker.

Well, on the wii version of TP, I thought that the controls felt cooler and smoother than the gamecube's TP controls. WW is a great game, but in my opinion can't beat TP's experience on the wii. The game in the Legend of Zelda that was a let-down for me was Skyward Sword. What about you?

 

For me, Phantom Hourglass was the least enjoyable. Ironically, Spirit Tracks is one of my most favourite in recent memory.

The thing about it being smoother, there may be a very valid reason for that; if I'm not mistaken, the Wii version runs at a higher framerate, and is more stable.

TP is my least favourite 3D Zelda, second only to Ocarina of Time, but that's not because it's a bad game, they're just all amazing.

For me, Phantom Hourglass was the least enjoyable. Ironically, Spirit Tracks is one of my most favourite in recent memory.

The thing about it being smoother, there may be a very valid reason for that; if I'm not mistaken, the Wii version runs at a higher framerate, and is more stable.

TP is my least favourite 3D Zelda, second only to Ocarina of Time, but that's not because it's a bad game, they're just all amazing.

 

Yeah, I believe that the wii version of TP had a higher framerate.

I've actually never played Spirit Tracks, I am thinking about getting it soon though.

I think that the first one was one of the best, and the second one was even better than the first one was, but my favorite Zelda game of all times would have to be Ocarina of Time.

Yeah, I believe that the wii version of TP had a higher framerate.

I've actually never played Spirit Tracks, I am thinking about getting it soon though.

I think that the first one was one of the best, and the second one was even better than the first one was, but my favorite Zelda game of all times would have to be Ocarina of Time.

 

Wait... you like the second Zelda? How did you even make it past the first dungeon? You must have some crazy skills, or insane patience! o.o

Wait... you like the second Zelda? How did you even make it past the first dungeon? You must have some crazy skills, or insane patience! o.o

 

I like games that have a good challenge. That's one reason why I like Legend of Zelda games so much. It was pretty hard for me to beat the dungeons though, but it was worth it. That's the main reason why I didn't like Skyward Sword, it wasn't that big of a challenge for me to beat it, and also Fi was annoying.

I like games that have a good challenge. That's one reason why I like Legend of Zelda games so much. It was pretty hard for me to beat the dungeons though, but it was worth it. That's the main reason why I didn't like Skyward Sword, it wasn't that big of a challenge for me to beat it, and also Fi was annoying.

 

If Zelda II's difficulty is trying to eat a spiky rock, every other Zelda, by comparison, is like eating a delicious, soft, desert.

If Zelda II's difficulty is trying to eat a spiky rock, every other Zelda, by comparison, is like eating a delicious, soft, desert.

 

Well, yeah. The first one wasn't as tough as the second, but it still was tough that would make it like a toy truck.

Well, yeah. The first one wasn't as tough as the second, but it still was tough that would make it like a toy truck.

 

The first one's only tough in that it's ridiculously cryptic. With dumb luck or a guide, the game basically collapses...

The first one's only tough in that it's ridiculously cryptic. With dumb luck or a guide, the game basically collapses...

 

When I played the first game, it was when I had first started to play videogames, so it was hard for me. I remember telling myself that I wasn't going to look online for help, that I was going to beat it by myself.

When I played the first game, it was when I had first started to play videogames, so it was hard for me. I remember telling myself that I wasn't going to look online for help, that I was going to beat it by myself.

 

Heh, when I first played it, it would have been a pain to check on the internet, I just crashed into every goal after a lot of random wandering (As well as rubbing up against every rock statue and bush I could find :P)

Honestly, I don't think I have the patience for that anymore :P

Heh, when I first played it, it would have been a pain to check on the internet, I just crashed into every goal after a lot of random wandering (As well as rubbing up against every rock statue and bush I could find :P)

Honestly, I don't think I have the patience for that anymore :P

 

I might still have the patience, but most likely, if I were to start to beat it again right now, I'd just bookmark the walkthrough, and look at it every step of the way. :D

tutti frutti. If it's for the Gamecube, I would have to say Wind Waker. Though I like Twilight Princess a bit more, and played on both consoles, I thought Twilight Princess felt better on the Wii. Though for the Gamecube, you don't have to worry about buying batteries or a battery charger set. Though if you can I say get a used copy of both if you can't really decide for the Gamecube.

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I've seen this before :0 well not the video but the finished piece lol, it is pretty amazing though!~

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I didn't mind the idea of having two split timelines within the Zelda Universe (child timeline and adult timeline). When the third timeline was announced by Nintendo according to their official timeline in the Legend of Zelda: Hyrule Historia, where link falls in ocarina of time, is where I thought was bullshizzz. 

They basically made a scapegoat for future installments, any time they can't fit a game into the timeline, a fallen hero timeline begins again

Can't really fault them though considering when they first started making the games, gameplay came before any story

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I love how Ocarina Of Time made the series split into separate TIMElines.

Two different Hyrules. Fans=Okay

 

Three different Hyrules. Fans=Raging 5 year olds

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Even though when Miyamoto released this everyone was okay with it and no one cared about this timeline since :>

I never got this from Ocarina was this. If Link could put back the sword and be a child again, what avoids any trouble Ganondorf did between those 7 years, why didn't he put the sword back, stay as a child, and make all resistance possible, what would make Ganondorf never get the Triforce of Power? Instead, he defeated him as an adult, and was a child once more, with Ganondorf still alive? (I don't believe Ganandorf was alive when Link came back those 7 years for good, but I not only can't see a possible explanation, people state he's alive). And like he states, if Link went back to being a child, and Ganandorf is dead, then none of the events really happened when he was adult, what kinda nulifies Ganonford death! Just realised this is a bigger paradox than I thought!

 

They only made the Timeline so they'd be free to make any games they want. Now any hero could fail at any history, and they'll have infinite possibilites. But is it so hard to make a Timeline where all heroes prevail, with different generation Links? It kinda dissapoints fans to know any of them COULD ACTUALLY FAIL. I didn't have all that trouble to know he could have failed xP

 

And how the hell did that dude from the windmill teaches us a song we haven't played for him yet in the past???

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Okay, so I've been thinking about this a lot recently. I saw the timeline months ago, but I didn't understand how it worked exactly, but now I think I've figured it out. I may have gotten things wrong, so if I did, please comment and tell me what I got wrong. I hope this helps any of those who are confused.

Timeline: You may want to open this in a separate tab.

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As you can see, there are three splits. Two of which are "what if" splits. The era that is most canon is the Child Era.

Anyways, I'm going to explain this split by split, in spoilers, to help keep the page condensed.

The Hero is Defeated:

This is the timeline that explains what would have happened if Link, from Ocarina of Time, had died between Zelda getting captured after revealing she was Shiek, and finishing Ganon off as the monster Ganon. (I say this because if Link had died anytime earlier, the events in the Hero was Defeated timeline would have been impossible, because Link is the one who led him to the Sacred Realm and revealed Shieks Identity)  I'm going to assume that there is a game between The Hero is defeated, and A Link to the Past, explaining the missing info. (Maybe the LttP game that Nintendo announced is a prelude of sorts?) Anyways, LttP, Ganon is revived, and defeated, Oracle of seasons/ages, revived and defeated once more, (another game is missing here most likely,) and in Zelda, is revived and defeated again. And in Adventure of Link, his revival is prevented, bringing peace to Hyrule at long last.



Child Era:

Now this is the most canon of the timeline, as it is seen in OoT that Link is in fact sent back in time to relive his child hood. Link goes off to search for Navi, but in his absence (since in this timeline, Ganon was not sealed in the Sacred Realm) Ganon is believed executed, however, because he holds the Triforce of Power, he lives, and kills one of the seven sages. He is then sent, by the remaining six sages, into the Twilight Zone (couldn't resist it,) where he eventually teaches Zant his dark powers. (This happens during the course of Majora's Mask, and maybe a little after.) (I'm going to assume that there is yet another game missing here as well between OoT and TP where this Link gets married, has kids, and dies of some kind of accident, as he states in TP that he had regrets that he never got to teach anyone his secret abilities [these abilities were most likely gained in the same game, as he never uses those abilities prior to TP.]) A New Link is born, sharing the bloodline of the OoT and MM Link. (This Link is seen in game as the Golden Wolf/Hero's Shade) (I have to stop here, as I haven't played Four Swords adventure.)



Adult Era:

This split COULD be canon, but is most likely not, as in OoT, Link is sent back to relive his childhood. This is what would happen if he did not, and kept living his adult life. Link goes on another adventure (I'm going to assume that their is ANOTHER game branching these two) and because of Link's absence, Ganon escapes the Sacred Realm (where he was sealed at the end of OoT) and without a hero, Hyrule prayed to the Godesses to protect them, so they sank them. (haha) (This may not be true, but I think that there is another game here as well, explaining why Ganon did not attack sooner... Unless I missed something in Wind Waker) And thus, Wind Waker happens. This Link may or may not be a descendant of OoT link. It is never confirmed, but I'm going to assume that he is not, as Link most likely died before settling down. (This is also where I'm going to stop, as I haven't played anything else in that Timeline.)



Did I get this right? I'm asking you guys.

Okay, so I've been thinking about this a lot recently. I saw the timeline months ago, but I didn't understand how it worked exactly, but now I think I've figured it out. I may have gotten things wrong, so if I did, please comment and tell me what I got wrong. I hope this helps any of those who are confused.

 

Timeline: You may want to open this in a separate tab.

 

Posted Image

 

 

As you can see, there are three splits. Two of which are "what if" splits. The era that is most canon is the Child Era.

 

Anyways, I'm going to explain this split by split, in spoilers, to help keep the page condensed.

 

The Hero is Defeated:

 

This is the timeline that explains what would have happened if Link, from Ocarina of Time, had died between Zelda getting captured after revealing she was Shiek, and finishing Ganon off as the monster Ganon. (I say this because if Link had died anytime earlier, the events in the Hero was Defeated timeline would have been impossible, because Link is the one who led him to the Sacred Realm and revealed Shieks Identity)  I'm going to assume that there is a game between The Hero is defeated, and A Link to the Past, explaining the missing info. (Maybe the LttP game that Nintendo announced is a prelude of sorts?) Anyways, LttP, Ganon is revived, and defeated, Oracle of seasons/ages, revived and defeated once more, (another game is missing here most likely,) and in Zelda, is revived and defeated again. And in Adventure of Link, his revival is prevented, bringing peace to Hyrule at long last.

 

 

Child Era:

 

Now this is the most canon of the timeline, as it is seen in OoT that Link is in fact sent back in time to relive his child hood. Link goes off to search for Navi, but in his absence (since in this timeline, Ganon was not sealed in the Sacred Realm) Ganon is believed executed, however, because he holds the Triforce of Power, he lives, and kills one of the seven sages. He is then sent, by the remaining six sages, into the Twilight Zone (couldn't resist it,) where he eventually teaches Zant his dark powers. (This happens during the course of Majora's Mask, and maybe a little after.) (I'm going to assume that there is yet another game missing here as well between OoT and TP where this Link gets married, has kids, and dies of some kind of accident, as he states in TP that he had regrets that he never got to teach anyone his secret abilities [these abilities were most likely gained in the same game, as he never uses those abilities prior to TP.]) A New Link is born, sharing the bloodline of the OoT and MM Link. (This Link is seen in game as the Golden Wolf/Hero's Shade) (I have to stop here, as I haven't played Four Swords adventure.)

 

 

Adult Era:

 

This split COULD be canon, but is most likely not, as in OoT, Link is sent back to relive his childhood. This is what would happen if he did not, and kept living his adult life. Link goes on another adventure (I'm going to assume that their is ANOTHER game branching these two) and because of Link's absence, Ganon escapes the Sacred Realm (where he was sealed at the end of OoT) and without a hero, Hyrule prayed to the Godesses to protect them, so they sank them. (haha) (This may not be true, but I think that there is another game here as well, explaining why Ganon did not attack sooner... Unless I missed something in Wind Waker) And thus, Wind Waker happens. This Link may or may not be a descendant of OoT link. It is never confirmed, but I'm going to assume that he is not, as Link most likely died before settling down. (This is also where I'm going to stop, as I haven't played anything else in that Timeline.)

 

 

Did I get this right? I'm asking you guys.

 

 

The "Hero is defeated" timeline

My personal opinion on this one is this. It doesn't matter in what time Link is killed by either Ganondorf Dragmire of his minions because I think Ganondorf would be able to access the Sacred Realm given enough time.

 

The "Child Era"

Again my personal opinion. Ganondorf was trapped in the Twilight Realm (Zone? xD) for a long time until one day he lost his physical form. After hundreds or thousands of years, he found Zant and gave him a fraction of his power. The Hero's Shade is just the spiritual manifestation of the regrets of the Hero of Time, just his regrets and not his actual...uh...spirit? soul?

 

I think the "Adult Era" is actually the Timeline "Without a Hero" 

Link was sent back by Zelda to get his childhood back, leaving the future he saved defenseless and without a hero. When Ganondorf got out of the seal of the sages, the people believed the Hero of Time was going to save them, BUT, how could he do that if he was sent back 7 years to the past? This leads to the events of The Wind Waker, The Link in that timeline is not, in any way, a descendant of The Hero of Time. The tradition on Outset (and maybe other islands) of dressing the boys in green clothes was thanks to the old legend of the Kingdom of Hyrule and the Hero of Time.

 

Once again, that's my personal opinion AND my experience after playing The Legend of Zelda since the day it came out for the NES (good old times ~w~) maybe some of my info is not true since I haven't read the Hyrule Historia...sadly...But I will one day! Or maybe get one 8D

The "Hero is defeated" timeline

My personal opinion on this one is this. It doesn't matter in what time Link is killed by either Ganondorf Dragmire of his minions because I think Ganondorf would be able to access the Sacred Realm given enough time.

 

The "Child Era"

Again my personal opinion. Ganondorf was trapped in the Twilight Realm (Zone? xD) for a long time until one day he lost his physical form. After hundreds or thousands of years, he found Zant and gave him a fraction of his power. The Hero's Shade is just the spiritual manifestation of the regrets of the Hero of Time, just his regrets and not his actual...uh...spirit? soul?

 

I think the "Adult Era" is actually the Timeline "Without a Hero" 

Link was sent back by Zelda to get his childhood back, leaving the future he saved defenseless and without a hero. When Ganondorf got out of the seal of the sages, the people believed the Hero of Time was going to save them, BUT, how could he do that if he was sent back 7 years to the past? This leads to the events of The Wind Waker, The Link in that timeline is not, in any way, a descendant of The Hero of Time. The tradition on Outset (and maybe other islands) of dressing the boys in green clothes was thanks to the old legend of the Kingdom of Hyrule and the Hero of Time.

 

Once again, that's my personal opinion AND my experience after playing The Legend of Zelda since the day it came out for the NES (good old times ~w~) maybe some of my info is not true since I haven't read the Hyrule Historia...sadly...But I will one day! Or maybe get one 8D

Thank you for your input. I thought of some of this, but I thought it to be too confusing, as since Link was sent back in time 7 years, wouldn't there be another Link there that is the same link for that time? Because you sent him back, he got to live the seven years, and is still living, so he;d be there, but I'm not sure either xD

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