Incidentally, I believe that's the longest title to a thread that I've made.

 

So, there's been some thought about whether or not we'll actually be able to visit the Heart of all Worlds in the final installment of this first saga. Considering it's Xehanort's big plan to crack the code and make it into this place, it does indeed seem likely that we might get a peek at it. 

 

But here's the thing: I really don't think we should see it.

 

Ansem the Wise makes mention that the heart is something beyond finite human understanding, and Xehanort himself says that to get into Kingdom Hearts, you would have to be almost superhuman. If you were to give Kingdom Hearts a physical form that you can touch and feel, I think it would sort of ruin the idea of Kingdom Hearts. If the heart is a thing of emotion, thought, and things altogether immeasurable, then I don't really think you should be able to visit the place like you would any other world. It's a conglomeration of fragmented ideas, and I think it should stay intentionally vague and beyond understanding.

 

Unless you view it, and then become insane as a result. Which would be a bizarre twist to the end of the game: it turns out that Sora was insane the whole time.

 

 

*plot twist* The Universe is actually Kingdom Hearts.

Yeah. I really wish it would just stay mysterious. I would like it much better that way. But looks like it's gonna happen anyway. :

Is the final battle in Kingdom Hearts II not in Kingdom Hearts?

So you're saying that Kingdom Hearts should be something that the human mind would lack the capacity to grasp a hold of, and for that reason should be left untouched? 

 

It would be kind of like Heaven in that sense.

 

However I feel like KH3 should bring out the big guns. I can't think of a more appropriate location for the final battle, could you?

Edited July 24, 201312 yr by juma086

Maybe it could be an abstract yet physical plane constructed of memories and emotions, like Memoria from FFIX.  You can touch and feel it, but that doesn't necessarily mean you're going to experience what the world truly is.  What they experience in the world could only be a shadow of its true essence, which is the most they can perceive because you're right, the heart is beyond full understanding.  I'm not ruling out the possibility of it being an actual world.  You can experience something but you can't comprehend everything there is to know about it.  Humans aren't built that way so a Kingdom Hearts would would be no exception.

I at least think Xehanort should obtain incredible power from it. Sorta like Xemnas did in Kingdom Hearts 2.

The title confused me at first and I thought about Inception. ;o;

 

Maybe there would be something similar to an illusion.

I kind of think not showing Kingdom Hearts by this point would be such a cop-out, considering no one has any firetrucking clue what the thing even is other than being a giant ass moon that changes color depending on how it's summoned.

I'm not saying that there should actually be a "world" that's playable - maybe something like KH2 where the final boss takes place in it. If it's something trippy and incomprehensible at the same time, I'd be down for it again. I just really feel that, to conclude the whole Xehanort saga, they really need to physically show Kingdom Hearts, or at least give us something from the inside.

I also think Dearly Beloved needs to come up in the final boss music, but that's a different story.

I completely agree, at this point in the story, I don't think making it a world we can actually play on would be a good idea.  Like Dave mentioned, it does represent something beyond understanding, to even someone like Xehanort, or Ansem the Wise.From a gameplay standpoint though, I can not express how amazing it would be to fight Xehanort literally in Kingdom Hearts, but I'm sure I'll like whatever Nomura throws at us in KH3 either way.

Edited July 24, 201312 yr by Xetorph

i hope they don't make kingdom hearts stupid, there's alot of place they could go wrong since in its gonna be in the final installment

I love the idea of being able to see The actual Kingdom Hearts but I don't think we should visit it. It shouldn't be accessible.

Incidentally, it turns out that Sora was insane the whole time.

That would explain a whole lot...

Incidentally, I believe that's the longest title to a thread that I've made.

 

So, there's been some thought about whether or not we'll actually be able to visit the Heart of all Worlds in the final installment of this first saga. Considering it's Xehanort's big plan to crack the code and make it into this place, it does indeed seem likely that we might get a peek at it. 

 

But here's the thing: I really don't think we should see it.

 

Ansem the Wise makes mention that the heart is something beyond finite human understanding, and Xehanort himself says that to get into Kingdom Hearts, you would have to be almost superhuman. If you were to give Kingdom Hearts a physical form that you can touch and feel, I think it would sort of ruin the idea of Kingdom Hearts. If the heart is a thing of emotion, thought, and things altogether immeasurable, then I don't really think you should be able to visit the place like you would any other world. It's a conglomeration of fragmented ideas, and I think it should stay intentionally vague and beyond understanding.

 

Unless you view it, and then become insane as a result. Which would be a bizarre twist to the end of the game: it turns out that Sora was insane the whole time.

 

I completely agree, at this point in the story, I don't think making it a world we can actually play on would be a good idea.  Like Dave mentioned, it does represent something beyond understanding, to even someone like Xehanort, or Ansem the Wise.From a gameplay standpoint though, I can not express how amazing it would be to fight Xehanort literally in Kingdom Hearts, but I'm sure I'll like whatever Nomura throws at us in KH3 either way.

 

 

I agree with both of these wholeheartedly with how I view Kingdom Hearts . Well put .

Is the final battle in Kingdom Hearts II not in Kingdom Hearts?

 

It took place in an artifical version of Kingdom Hearts, not the real one.