lol, piracy is fun

 

 

 

 

How dare people not get anything in return for all of their hard work, right? They're just a bunch of greedy jerks, how could they ask for money after spending years making a game!

A number of companies and artists need to realize that a pirated download does not equal a lost sale.  Just cause someone downloaded something does not mean, if they weren't able to, that they would have bought it.

A number of companies and artists need to realize that a pirated download does not equal a lost sale.  Just cause someone downloaded something does not mean, if they weren't able to, that they would have bought it.

Must admit that most cases people do want those things though

A number of companies and artists need to realize that a pirated download does not equal a lost sale.  Just cause someone downloaded something does not mean, if they weren't able to, that they would have bought it.

Fool. Not in every occasion, maybe. But sometimes it does. Even when willing to pay, the free option looks a lot better. Plus, if someone doesn't pay to see your movie or play your game, then they don't deserve. People don't have the right. So even if I( don't lose money from somebody watching it illegally, it's still stealing from me.

How dare people not get anything in return for all of their hard work, right? They're just a bunch of greedy jerks, how could they ask for money after spending years making a game!

Piracy doesn't always equal a loss. Game of Thrones is the most pirated show of all time and it actually one of the most financially successful too. It spread through its quality, word of mouth AND piracy. The money, andI mean BIG money still lands in your lap if your work speaks for itself.And yes when you're worth 500 million (more money than you will ever spend) and you can't accept the fact not everyone's paying for your product while there are more noble jobs out there that pay much less like, I don't know, surgeons, making much less than you, then yes you are being greedy.

Piracy doesn't always equal a loss. Game of Thrones is the most pirated show of all time and it actually one of the most financially successful too. It spread through its quality, word of mouth AND piracy. The money, andI mean BIG money still lands in your lap if your work speaks for itself.And yes when you're worth 500 million (more money than you will ever spend) and you can't accept the fact not everyone's paying for your product while there are more noble jobs out there that pay much less like, I don't know, surgeons, making much less than you, then yes you are being greedy.

 

Not necessarily. 500 million dollars for one company that is made up of A LOT of people is different than 500 million dollars for one person. There are more expenses for one company than there would be for one person or one family. There is more than just the CEO of the company and everyone in the company gets affected by it. If enough people pirated and not enough people were buying the games, the company could downsize and some people that aren't apart of that 500 million could get affected, despite their hardwork. Everyone has their opinions but I personally don't want to look at it as just because they as a company have more than what I as a person do, means that I deserve whatever I want without giving anything to them in return for their work.

How dare people not get anything in return for all of their hard work, right? They're just a bunch of greedy jerks, how could they ask for money after spending years making a game!

Someone is perfectly justified in pirating a game that was never available in their country. For example- Mother 3

Someone is perfectly justified in pirating a game that was never available in their country. For example- Mother 3

 

That one I can kinda understand. It wasn't available in their country to begin with so it's not like the company expected to or planned to even make a profit off of the people of that country. At the same time, though, if the person has access to the internet I don't see why they couldn't order it online.

That one I can kinda understand. It wasn't available in their country to begin with so it's not like the company expected to or planned to even make a profit off of the people of that country. At the same time, though, if the person has access to the internet I don't see why they couldn't order it online.

Mother 3 is pretty much unplayable(and unenjoyable) if you don't understand Japanese. As are most RPG's.

Emulation allows for language patches.

Edited August 1, 201411 yr by Cucco

Mother 3 is pretty much unplayable(and unenjoyable) if you don't understand Japanese. As are most RPG's.

Then I would assume that the pirated version or at least some pirated versions would have an English patch on the game?

 

Nvm, I just saw the edited part of your post

 

In that case, that situation could actually work in favor of a company. If enough fans from a country they didn't bring it to, were to pirate and enjoy the game, it could garner a fanbase and give the company a reason to release the game in that country. They could even package it with something extra so it gives the fans who already played it an incentive to actually buy it.

Edited August 1, 201411 yr by Queen Tery

Do you think I give a cow 20th century fox!? YOU WILL PAY WAT U OWE!!

I feel like Piracy is a delicate subject, but something needs to be said...People will do it no matter what. Whether it's right or wrong doesn't matter, it's still gonna happen.

Edited August 1, 201411 yr by Shard the Metal

"did not see that money coming."

-Cynquirana 2014

Edited August 2, 201411 yr by Cynquirana

Fool. Not in every occasion, maybe. But sometimes it does. Even when willing to pay, the free option looks a lot better. Plus, if someone doesn't pay to see your movie or play your game, then they don't deserve. People don't have the right. So even if I( don't lose money from somebody watching it illegally, it's still stealing from me.

 

My comment is in terms of music, and (in some ways I guess movies, I've never researched video game piracy).  In most situations.  There are some people who love music and would download but if it came down to it and people couldn't at all, hypothetically let's say it's completely impossible, a lot of people would value other things like games, movies, books, material possessions and outings with people over a 3 minute track.  The amount of songs on people's library would drop to only those they really like that they think are worth the money to buy, and as said only those who are really into music, and value it above games, hobbies, movies, outings etc would be happy spending $100s on getting a 500 song playlist.  Anyone else would have more than likely slowly accumulated the songs, with giftcards for iTunes or the one off purchase here and there.  But if someone was to pirate 100 songs in a row to replace all the songs on their mp3 player (do people still use mp3 players), and suddenly weren't able to pirate, they more than likely wouldn't turn around and buy those 100 tracks outright in a row.  

 

The same goes for movies, just 'cause someone downloaded a film, doesn't mean they would have paid to see it otherwise.  

 

 

Must admit that most cases people do want those things though 

 

 

They do, but the aforementioned post to MasterXemnas explains my point, while yes with SOME it is a lost sale, but generally with those that would have bought it, if they like what they heard, they will end up buying it to support the artist.  Otherwise people, in a hypothetical situation mentioned above, would restrict what they are buying to things they really like rather than "Might as well try it, I'll download it anyway".  So what I'm getting at is that say 100,000,000 downloads are pirated tonight (I have no idea if that figures accurate), it still doesn't equal 100,000,000 lost sales.

My comment is in terms of music, and (in some ways I guess movies, I've never researched video game piracy).  In most situations.  There are some people who love music and would download but if it came down to it and people couldn't at all, hypothetically let's say it's completely impossible, a lot of people would value other things like games, movies, books, material possessions and outings with people over a 3 minute track.  The amount of songs on people's library would drop to only those they really like that they think are worth the money to buy, and as said only those who are really into music, and value it above games, hobbies, movies, outings etc would be happy spending $100s on getting a 500 song playlist.  Anyone else would have more than likely slowly accumulated the songs, with giftcards for iTunes or the one off purchase here and there.  But if someone was to pirate 100 songs in a row to replace all the songs on their mp3 player (do people still use mp3 players), and suddenly weren't able to pirate, they more than likely wouldn't turn around and buy those 100 tracks outright in a row.  

 

The same goes for movies, just 'cause someone downloaded a film, doesn't mean they would have paid to see it otherwise.  

 

 

 

 

They do, but the aforementioned post to MasterXemnas explains my point, while yes with SOME it is a lost sale, but generally with those that would have bought it, if they like what they heard, they will end up buying it to support the artist.  Otherwise people, in a hypothetical situation mentioned above, would restrict what they are buying to things they really like rather than "Might as well try it, I'll download it anyway".  So what I'm getting at is that say 100,000,000 downloads are pirated tonight (I have no idea if that figures accurate), it still doesn't equal 100,000,000 lost sales.

In fact I agree with you that a pirated download doesn't represent necessarily a lost sale, like in the case in which one who downloaded might have done it for lack of money. In this case the program/whatever wouldn't have been purchased anyway, would it? Sometimes it could even represent a GAINED sale instead! Like, "Why do I have to purchase a very expensive software if I can't even try and see if I'm comfortable with it? Demos never allow you to try the product completely, I'm not gonna buy it." - what's this? THIS is a lost sale. What a pirated download would do in this case? Would allow one to try the full product and maybe convince to buy it (here you might think "doesn't make sense, one could just keep the pirated copy", true, but pirated programs don't allow you to use them for-profit. Who need them for-profit in fact will purchase). But in yet another case, it can represent a lost sale. It really depends by the situation Anyway I still think that piracy is not good if you CAN afford to buy something, sure, it's not good in any case, but lack of money can't stop one who need an expensive program maybe to follow one's dream, so it's totally understandable and cannot be really blamed

Just saying because it is on topic, I do actually know at least one person who pirates games to try them out. And if he likes 'em, he buys them. And if he doesn't, I don't think he even finishes the games he pirated.Is that legal? No.Are companies losing sales because of it? Possibly, but on the other hand, some are gaining sales.