It's fair to say that KHIII is a pretty big deal. And I am terribly afraid that with all the obnoxious, egotistical "entitled" fans, the Osaka Team will get very pressured, because this IS their first console and numbered game after all. 

 

Now for an explanation to the title. Kingdom Hearts 1.5 and 2.5 are both examples of what happens when Square Enix rush their games. Kingdom Hearts 1.5 isn't affected too much, but Kingdom Hearts 2.5, oh god that was terribly unfinished.

 

The game had a bountiful amount of glitches, bugs and just overall bad gameplay flaws, here are examples;

 

• Cavern of Remembrance skip glitch which was NEVER found before 2.5's release. (To my knowledge)
• Drive Form loading times are appalling.
• Scene loading time is appalling.
• Using Reversal against Eternal Xemnas is broken.
• Freezing.
• Crashing.
• Etc.

 

Now it's highly likely, if Osaka are too pressured by the assholes clamouring for a release right now, that this will happen, Kingdom Hearts III, our beloved, as off right now, unborn child will be utterly broken. And in the future we may refer to it as Sonic 06 2.0.

 

So please, I, on behalf of the theoretical minds of the Osaka Team ask those of you who are impatient and ungrateful about all the trailers and information we have been given so far ask;

 

Stop being impatient and selfish.

Edited February 24, 20169 yr by AzureAce

you know i feel like the fan base started to get bad after 3D's release, it didn't happen instantly but over the years it ehhh.........

in any case i don't care, they can take as long as they want (not FF15 long doe) i'm a patent man, we'll have plenty of time to settle this property dispute.

I absolutely agree. If you want a perfectly polished game, you need patience. If you rush it, you regret it. 

I don't mind waiting, really. I can play other games while i wait. Like Yandere Simulator.

From what I've heard the load times are due to the PS3 and not SQUARE ENIX.Beside Xemnas's Final form being broken I think the remixes are great and I never ran into any glitches or freeze so if it happen to some people that's unfortunate but its not a major problem that every player will encounter.

some people have been waiting for this game for 10 years and if that knowledge doesn't make Osaka crack then i think we'll be fine.

this is a large release as well so i don't think SE are going to start rushing things now after making us wait so long. 

 

they can take as long as they want because i have a ton of other games to keep me busy

Am I seriously the only person in the world that got a copy of KH2.5 that doesn't crash, have bugs, or even glitches at all? Like I think that I am, because everyone else has problems meanwhile I am able to play my copies without much thought on any issues! :?

From what I've heard the load times are due to the PS3 and not SQUARE ENIX.Beside Xemnas's Final form being broken I think the remixes are great and I never ran into any glitches or freeze so if it happen to some people that's unfortunate but its not a major problem that every player will encounter.

If it's the PS3's fault, then please explain why the PS2 versions run virtually perfectly. The ReMixes should be running so much better, the PS3 is 40x more powerful than the PS2. 40x. So there should be no excuse.

If it's the PS3's fault, then please explain why the PS2 versions run virtually perfectly. The ReMixes should be running so much better, the PS3 is 40x more powerful than the PS2. 40x. So there should be no excuse.

I don't know much about that kind of techical stuff but I heard the PS3 has long load times in general even if its more powerful then the PS2,you can compare load times between the same game on PS3 and Xbox 360 like Sonic Unleashed or whatever and the 360 version of Unleashed will have shorter load times.

I don't know much about that kind of techical stuff but I heard the PS3 has long load times in general even if its more powerful then the PS2,you can compare load times between the same game on PS3 and Xbox 360 like Sonic Unleashed or whatever and the 360 version of Unleashed will have shorter load times.

Well I'm playing Ratchet and Clank: A Crack in Time as we speak. Lucky if the load times are a couple seconds long. Even the old remastered versions of the original Ratchet and Clank Trilogy have short load times with the exception of going between planets, because those are made to be long, as if replicating the space travel.

When Nomura delivers he always delivers well, give the man some space and don't stunt his genius.

Well I'm playing Ratchet and Clank: A Crack in Time as we speak. Lucky if the load times are a couple seconds long. Even the old remastered versions of the original Ratchet and Clank Trilogy have short load times with the exception of going between planets, because those are made to be long, as if replicating the space travel.

It depends on how the game loads its content and there are way to hide load times and make rhem seem short or non existant.It always depends on the game,not every games load at the same speed even if they are on the same console

I never had any of those glitches when I was playing my Kingdom Hearts 2.5 game. The only so call glitch I got in my Kingdom Hearts 2.5 game was the long loading times during my Drive Forms, but other than that my Kingdom Hearts 2.5 game works great and smooth. I had no freezing, no crashing, no broken Reversal during the final battle with Xemnas. And I love Sonic the Hedgehog 06, one my favorite Sonic games after Sonic Adventure 1 and 2.

some people have been waiting for this game for 10 years and if that knowledge doesn't make Osaka crack then i think we'll be fine.

this is a large release as well so i don't think SE are going to start rushing things now after making us wait so long. 

 

they can take as long as they want because i have a ton of other games to keep me busy

Exactly! We've been waiting for 10 long years. To be honest, I don't care if it releases in 2017 or in 2025 at this point, I just want KH3 to live its expectations, even if I don't get to play it (it's highly unlikely that I'll have my own copy...)

 

 

 

By the way, there's no glitches for me either, 2.5 was good, except for Re: Coded, that let me down, but that's my opinion, it's not a glitch

You can be sure Osaka team will find a way to firetruck it up, I have very little faith in them. 

Long loading times is not a glitch, it's due to the Blu-Ray drive, besides, BR discs hold huge amounts of data in several different layers, demanding a lot more workd from the drive as thus a lot more time loading it's contents, you can't honestly compare a BR disc to a simple DVD and no amount of raw power will speed up the process.

 

Besides I've never once had any freezing or glitch happening to me, just because it happens to a few vocal people doesn't mean there's something wrong with the games, that's just something that's bound to happen to a few selected people out there.

I don't know much about that kind of techical stuff but I heard the PS3 has long load times in general even if its more powerful then the PS2,you can compare load times between the same game on PS3 and Xbox 360 like Sonic Unleashed or whatever and the 360 version of Unleashed will have shorter load times.

 

The PS3's longer load times are due to its Blu-Ray technology, which can contain more detailed information but will take longer to load. This is why playing a Blu-Ray disc in your Blu-Ray player may take time to load.

 

HOWEVER, 

 

this does not excuse the load times for Drive forms, cutscenes, freezing, crashing, or anything whatsoever. There is a thing called optimization and the Osaka Team should have been able to handle it given enough time and resources.

 

Honestly, if people are actually okay with the issues AzureAce mentioned, I guess I won't hold it against you but if this is really something that doesn't bother you, does this mean you're okay with a less functioning game and a buggier experience? I don't want this to come off as rude, but I see a problem if people actually say long load times are fine. And to the people who say they aren't having problems with their copy, you either:

 

A: Actually do have one of the VERY RARE less buggy copies...

 

B: Do not get bothered by bugs/glitches much and legitimately didn't notice...

 

or C, which I really hope none of you are doing and expect that you probably aren't: You're lying.

 

Now that I've got that off of my chest, I agree with AzureAce's points and that I sincerely hope Square isn't too rushed in the future.

Please don't take this post the wrong way, as I am legitimately concerned about 1.5 and 2.5's problems.

which can contain more detailed information but will take longer to load. A: Actually do have one of the VERY RARE less buggy copies

the bluray thing isn't true unless you are playing on a low res t.v. with low fps capabilities bluray is fine, its the game that's flawed.There are no less buggy copies.

Edited February 24, 20169 yr by EternalReckoning

The PS3's longer load times are due to its Blu-Ray technology, which can contain more detailed information but will take longer to load. This is why playing a Blu-Ray disc in your Blu-Ray player may take time to load. HOWEVER,  this does not excuse the load times for Drive forms, cutscenes, freezing, crashing, or anything whatsoever. There is a thing called optimization and the Osaka Team should have been able to handle it given enough time and resources. Honestly, if people are actually okay with the issues AzureAce mentioned, I guess I won't hold it against you but if this is really something that doesn't bother you, does this mean you're okay with a less functioning game and a buggier experience? I don't want this to come off as rude, but I see a problem if people actually say long load times are fine. And to the people who say they aren't having problems with their copy, you either: A: Actually do have one of the VERY RARE less buggy copies... B: Do not get bothered by bugs/glitches much and legitimately didn't notice... or C, which I really hope none of you are doing and expect that you probably aren't: You're lying. Now that I've got that off of my chest, I agree with AzureAce's points and that I sincerely hope Square isn't too rushed in the future.Please don't take this post the wrong way, as I am legitimately concerned about 1.5 and 2.5's problems.

Its not that we're okay with longer load times or glitches,in an ideal world those issues wouldn't be in the game at all,its just that in the case of the KH remixes,I think there no major reason to complain.I played though all the games and I didn't noticed that the load times were longer until I read it on the Internet,it sucks that they are longer but its really not that bad and they are not as long as other games. I had fun playing those games even with Final Xemnas being broken,I can get used to that,the remixes are not broken mess like Sonic 06,Assassins Creed Unity or Batman Arkham Knight PC.To me there's no reason to get angry,Wind Waker HD had slowdown that should have been fixed,Nintendo made some very questionable changes for Majora's Mask 3D,Twilight Princess HD,The Rachet and clank and The Jak and Daxter HD collection could have been improved a lot more visually,some of the remastered music in the Final Fantasy X collection doesn't sound as good as the original.Those all suck but the games are still enjoyable,they are minor flaws and the same goes for the problems of the HD Remixes,I could start a new files of KH2 right now on my PS3 and I'll still have a tone of fun playing the game.

Ya know, I never experienced these glitches in my 1.5 and 2.5 games!

 

But anyways, that's beside the point!  You're very right about the fans!  We can't rush Osaka Tacos and Squared Elvis to bring this game out already!  I'm psyched as hell for it, sure, but I'm willing to wait as long as it takes, because I want an amazing game to play by the creative minds of Nomura, Osaka Tacos and Squared Elvis! Of course, even if the game has its flaws, I'll still love it either way!

 

But yeah, no need for a rushed product, ya know?

My games are glitch free from what I can tell. Yeah in 2.5 drive form times are a bit longer than I'd like, but they're not horrendous by any means.

 

However on the other side of the coin I do not want KH3 to be rushed. Having a glitchy KH3 would be a nightmare after all these years of waiting for the thing. I'm fine with however long I need to wait for a quality game. There are other releases to distract me in the meanwhile, and I still need to finish catching up to the Kingdom Hearts series in general. (Got 2.5 a few days ago, almost halfway through the main story!)

I don't care when the game comes out I just want Square Enix and Disney to port it to PC, what does it look like I want to spend close to 5000 dollars on computer upgrades to make my PC  4K Gaming Ultra poweful and stuff in Q4 of 2016 to play Kingdom Hearts 3 along with games like Final Fantasy XV and Final Fantasy VII Remake on a machine that can barely handle 1080p and the other barely being able to handle 900p, and God knows that framerate ain't staying at a lock 30FPS, I'd rather Square Enix take advantage of Unreal Engine, DX12, Vulkan, and GPUOpen by releasing it on Steam, don't gimp it like Tales of Symphonia, I want to run Kingdom Hearts  3 at at least 60 frames per second, and at resolution in 1440p or 4K and being able to use CrossFire and SLI.

 

Look I don't exactly hate consoles, but I like the option to be able to play a possibly great game such as Kingdom Hearts 3 on a platform that can really make it shine on a technical level.

I don't care when the game comes out I just want Square Enix and Disney to port it to PC, what does it look like I want to spend close to 5000 dollars on computer upgrades to make my PC  4K Gaming Ultra poweful and stuff in Q4 of 2016 to play Kingdom Hearts 3 along with games like Final Fantasy XV and Final Fantasy VII Remake on a machine that can barely handle 1080p and the other barely being able to handle 900p, and God knows that framerate ain't staying at a lock 30FPS, I'd rather Square Enix take advantage of Unreal Engine, DX12, Vulkan, and GPUOpen by releasing it on Steam, don't gimp it like Tales of Symphonia, I want to run Kingdom Hearts  3 at at least 60 frames per second, and at resolution in 1440p or 4K and being able to use CrossFire and SLI.

 

Look I don't exactly hate consoles, but I like the option to be able to play a possibly great game such as Kingdom Hearts 3 on a platform that can really make it shine on a technical level.

Just because it's on consoles doesn't mean it won't shine on a technical level. Have you seen the trailers we've been given so far? The game looking f*cking beautiful AND IT'S ONLY IN THE ALPHA STAGE. I don't want no BS "PC Master Race all consoles are shit" patter because it ain't true.

Just because it's on consoles doesn't mean it won't shine on a technical level. Have you seen the trailers we've been given so far? The game looking f*cking beautiful AND IT'S ONLY IN THE ALPHA STAGE. I don't want no BS "PC Master Race all consoles are shit" patter because it ain't true.

 

Just because it's on consoles doesn't mean it won't shine on a technical level. Have you seen the trailers we've been given so far? The game looking f*cking beautiful AND IT'S ONLY IN THE ALPHA STAGE. I don't want no BS "PC Master Race all consoles are shit" patter because it ain't true.

It definitely won't shine as well as if it was on PC, and it definitely won't be 60FPS+,  I only stated facts bro, also you do know that the game isn't optimized for the consoles yet, Kingdom Hearts 3 like Final Fantasy XV I believe is being made on a high-spec PC, then ported to consoles later, so the footage you are seeing is high-spec on PC, it's not going to look as good because the GPU within both consoles well the PS4 is at best mid-range like a R7 260X- R7 265 where as the Xbox One is a R7 260 at most so expect the settings to be lowered even further. 

 

Never said the consoles were shit, but in terms of specs yeah they get trumped badly by the PC and that is simply a fact, that most people have to get over which is why I want this game to come to PC, because I would seriously hate it, if I was locked to the console specs, and hardware instead of being able to play the game at least half as well as my PC's capabilities, and considering the game is being made with Direct X11, and Unreal Engine 4 things which can easily be ported to PC, all they would need to worry about is making the game well run properly on AMD, Intel, and NVIDIA Hardware, and making sure it has some good settings in there.

 

 

On the contrary in concept the consoles are a technical marvel putting a R7 265 GPU and a 8 Core Jaguar CPU on the same die is an amazing feat that could be featured PCs in the future, but they are just WAY to limited for me and that is why I don't want Kingdom Hearts 3 to be exclusive to them, especially with the lack of mods come on what lady doesn't want to play as a nude Sora, or Riku yeah I'm a dude btw but come on for the ladies :wink:  :wink:  :wink:  :wink:  :wink:  :wink:  :wink:  :wink:  :wink:  :wink:  :wink:  :wink:  :wink:  :wink:  you know what I mean? yeah you know what I mean. 

:huh: I've never had any issues with my 2.5. Does that make my copy an anomaly?  :huh:

Just because you haven't noticed and/or experienced bugs, glitches, crashes, lag pauses, etc., it does not mean they don't exist in your disc.

 

There's a lag pause at the start of the Cerberus fight (if I recall correctly) and Larxene AS, among other fights.

 

The Reversal Command in the Final Xemnas fight, in both JP and ENG versions, fails to appear a lot of the time, in both the story and Data fight. (I'm not saying it doesn't appear at all, because it does appear occasionally. But that's it: occasionally.)

 

In English 2.5, you can crash the game using Limit Form on Xemnas (story fight, not Data Fight) trying to use the building Reaction Command (I forget how the crash triggers exactly since I never did it myself--I just heard and saw a video or two showing that Limit Form + building RC in story Xemnas fight = crash and just avoided using that Form completely in that battle).

Edited March 10, 20169 yr by dabestgamer