(PS, etc show is the best channel on youtube)

 

 

The new terms of service mean that if your videos include sexual humour, talking about sensitive issues (war etc) your video may not be monetized. Thus you can't make money.

 

 

Here's the guidelines

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6162278?pageId=115226777454368218084

 

Advertiser-friendly content is content that's appropriate for all audiences. It has little to no inappropriate or mature content in the video stream, thumbnail or metadata (such as in the video title). If the video does contain inappropriate content, the context is usually newsworthy or comedic and the creator’s intent is to inform or entertain (not offend or shock).

 

Content that is considered "not advertiser-friendly" includes, but is not limited to:

• Sexually suggestive content, including partial nudity and sexual humour
• Violence, including display of serious injury and events related to violent extremism
• Inappropriate language, including harassment, swearing and vulgar language
• Promotion of drugs and regulated substances, including selling, use and abuse of such items
• Controversial or sensitive subjects and events, including subjects related to war, political conflicts, natural disasters and tragedies, even if graphic imagery is not shown

If any of the above describes any portion of your video, then the video may not be approved for monetisation. If monetisation is approved, your video may not be eligible for all available ad formats. YouTube reserves the right to not monetise a video, as well as suspend monetisation features on channels that repeatedly submit videos violating our policies.

 

 

Well done, the SJWS have won and everyone has their safe space because they can't handle reality. 

 

 

Thoughts?

Edited September 2, 20169 yr by Barry Bacon Allen

Well, when I saw this on twitter yesterday I thought it was a joke, but apparently it's not.

 

There's gonna be a massive decrease in views and subscription I think, and it's just gonna be worse for everyone.

First you can still make the videos. Just you won't get money for it. Really what's next a petition to remove the terms of service?

First you can still make the videos. Just you won't get money for it. Really what's next a petition to remove the terms of service?

I'll just say this

 

People's jobs are at stake here. People do this for a living and make money off of it, it's how they feed their families. If they say a few swear words or do anything remotely 'inappropriate' then they can't make money. Please realise how serious that is.

They've hit channels for these reasons for years now, they only just now went public about it.

 

 

This video explains it pretty well. It seems like they're more strict now, but this has happened for a while now. And no, I'm not defending what YouTube is doing here because it's completely stupid. Just showing a perspective of the issue that's getting ignored.

I feel like this is a very touchy subject, although there is some few things I'd like to say about it (hear me out)

I'm not saying make a big deal out of a video that only has a couple of curses in it, but there is just a few YouTube videos out there that crosses the line and are just really firetrucked up. I'm not saying videos talking about funny sex jokes, that's funny. But there's just some content out there that can really mess someone up mentally. I don't approve of this new feature, especially since knowing YouTube so many videos will be penalized over this for shit that's not even a big deal, but there is stuff on YouTube that is just firetrucked up. I don't want to talk about shit like that, but there is things out there in general that can really change someone. It happened to me a year ago and still affects me today, although it is something I partially brought upon myself. Some of this content you can debate as being educational/ etc but I just wanted to throw that out there for discussion as well. Again, not supporting this new bullshit terms but there is YouTube content that just is messed up.

 

Tldr; this new feature is stupid, it's going to ruin people's lives/channels but there is some YouTube content that's just firetrucked up.

First you can still make the videos. Just you won't get money for it. Really what's next a petition to remove the terms of service?

 

"Just you won't get money for it."

 

Alright. Let me stop you there for just a second. Think about how many content creators on YouTube monetize their videos and even think of it as a full-time job. Large users like PewDiePie have made millions off of YouTube alone. Just by PewDiePie's popularity alone, I'm sure he'll have no problem wrestling with YouTube and winning when it comes to their ToS.

 

But, let's get to the smaller channels. Think of TheGamersJoint, Jared. He makes YouTube videos full-time and it's an important source of income for him. He tends to swear quite a bit in his videos. Lo and behold, what do we see in this picture?

 

 

"Inappropriate language, including harassment, profanity and vulgar language." Jared drops the f-bomb every now and then, mentions "nipples" quite a lot which depending on what YouTube means by "sexual humor" could be interpreted as inappropriate for advertisers. Now, if YouTube were to go through every single one of his videos, they'd find a very considerable amount of "inappropriate" content apparently not suitable for advertisers. What happens to him then?

 

His videos are demonetized, meaning he can't make any more money on that specific video unless he appeals which he'd have to do for every single one of the videos that YouTube takes down.

 

What happens when he stops making money? He stops receiving an income. What happens when he stops receiving an income? Well, that wallet he uses to buy new equipment for his videos, games, etc...it's all gone.

It's a poor move on Youtube's part, and the reaction against it has been strong. Channels talking about things from depression to acne have been hit because someone decided that it wasn't "appropriate" for advertising to be associated with something so "negative." So basically, unless your barfing sugar and doling out the most censored product you can, you're out of a job.

 

At this point, I'd like to see Youtube be dealt some kind of legal ramifications, if you consider that they are bent on messing with the livelihoods of far too many people to be ignored.

Yes, and I fear that if the response this is getting is ignored, it will be much worse later on. No one but corporations get anything from this.

"Just you won't get money for it."

 

Alright. Let me stop you there for just a second. Think about how many content creators on YouTube monetize their videos and even think of it as a full-time job. Large users like PewDiePie have made millions off of YouTube alone. Just by PewDiePie's popularity alone, I'm sure he'll have no problem wrestling with YouTube and winning when it comes to their ToS.

 

But, let's get to the smaller channels. Think of TheGamersJoint, Jared. He makes YouTube videos full-time and it's an important source of income for him. He tends to swear quite a bit in his videos. Lo and behold, what do we see in this picture?

 

 

"Inappropriate language, including harassment, profanity and vulgar language." Jared drops the f-bomb every now and then, mentions "nipples" quite a lot which depending on what YouTube means by "sexual humor" could be interpreted as inappropriate for advertisers. Now, if YouTube were to go through every single one of his videos, they'd find a very considerable amount of "inappropriate" content apparently not suitable for advertisers. What happens to him then?

 

His videos are demonetized, meaning he can't make any more money on that specific video unless he appeals which he'd have to do for every single one of the videos that YouTube takes down.

 

What happens when he stops making money? He stops receiving an income. What happens when he stops receiving an income? Well, that wallet he uses to buy new equipment for his videos, games, etc...it's all gone.

Plus, he did that playing KH3 while high video too. R.I.P. "Smoke weed everyday day" jokes.

 

This is really bad, if they wanted to do this then they should have done this from day one. Some people are saying that this isn't going to last that long, yet we still have Google+ around Youtube and Youtube said they where going to do something about it.

This is ridiculous. It's basically like making all YouTube videos safe for children. Which is really unnecessary.

Honestly, I don't see anything wrong with it. They didn't say you couldn't put those kinds of videos on there, they just said you wouldn't get paid for them. YouTube does have a right to decide what kinds of videos they want to sponsor. And what they're asking is that people use some common curtertiesy (sp) towards others, which in my opinion, people shouldn't even have to ask for. It would be different if they said you couldn't upload those kinds of videos, but they're not.

It's pretty bad since it hurts Youtube's bigger channels. It'd be different if they we're only cracking down on the weird, out of place and inhumane channels, but people who just provide entertainment in the way that they are most comfortable are potentially getting penalized as well. And it's not a case of SJWs getting their way, because the energetic ones that swear, talk about their sexuality, and bring up sensitive subjects and rely on YT money, are basically being threatened to basically lose their source of income too.

Edited September 2, 20169 yr by Dustin Newton

Honestly, I don't see anything wrong with it. They didn't say you couldn't put those kinds of videos on there, they just said you wouldn't get paid for them. YouTube does have a right to decide what kinds of videos they want to sponsor. And what they're asking is that people use some common curtertiesy (sp) towards others, which in my opinion, people shouldn't even have to ask for. It would be different if they said you couldn't upload those kinds of videos, but they're not.

That's censorship though, the bad kind. If you don't like the content then you shouldn't watch it. Most creators add age restrictions anyway.

 

Common curtisey (however you spell it ) and censorship are two completely different things.

 

You say a few bad words, make a few silly jokes and bam you've lost income. That's so unfair, your censoring people and they are losing their free speech.

 

Also, they said graphic content like war and not necessarily images. Have you heard of alltime 10s or any of those fact channels (Matthew Santoro?). If he even mentions war or talks about history he could lose money because people need some sort of same zone.

 

Also, they said graphic content like war and not necessarily images. Have you heard of alltime 10s or any of those fact channels (Matthew Santoro?). If he even mentions war or talks about history he could lose money because people need some sort of same zone.

I think the real problem with this is that YouTube will go too far on deciding what's appropriate. Something like that happened to me about a month ago. However, there's nothing wrong with a company having standards. You don't need to make money on YouTube. You can get one of these things called a job, and people with jobs have to abide by the standards of their employers or get fired. It's the same thing.

 

Also, I wouldn't call this censorship because YouTube is still allowing these videos to be posted.

I think the real problem with this is that YouTube will go too far on deciding what's appropriate. Something like that happened to me about a month ago. However, there's nothing wrong with a company having standards. You don't need to make money on YouTube. You can get one of these things called a job, and people with jobs have to abide by the standards of their employers or get fired. It's the same thing.

 

Also, I wouldn't call this censorship because YouTube is still allowing these videos to be posted.

I don't want to be rude Joan but that (highlighted in red) seems quite insensitive.

 

Youtube is a job for many people, video editing takes a huge amount of time and skill. It's a craft just like anything else.

I don't want to be rude Joan but that (highlighted in red) seems quite insensitive.

 

Youtube is a job for many people, video editing takes a huge amount of time and skill. It's a craft just like anything else.

See, you just said its a job. So how is having standards for Pro Youtubers any different than having standards for employees for any other job?

 

I'd also like to point out that I didn't say YouTube should have terms of service, I said I didn't see anything wrong with them.

What will happen to popular Youtube channels such as Rooster Teeth and all their affiliated channels? They are focused on an audience where inappropriate or vulgar humor is what makes them popular. They do however have their own company website should YouTube decide it does not like such content but with a large amount of popular YouTubes possibly on the chopping block they will risk losing a lot of users too. It would be far more detrimental to those YouTubers who rely on the money given by YouTube as it is their job, but I suppose that in turn would make YouTube their company boss of sorts and as such cannot control the final call made. I agree with BBA in that YouTube is for many a job, and a creative media outlet, the same way creating art by artists is a job for many, however it seems that many places of creative media or outlet are told what they do and their passion cannot be a real job. I think it's important to keep an open mind to the 'non-traditional' jobs that people choose to follow.  :smile:

What will happen to popular Youtube channels such as Rooster Teeth and all their affiliated channels? They are focused on an audience where inappropriate or vulgar humor is what makes them popular. They do however have their own company website should YouTube decide it does not like such content but with a large amount of popular YouTubes possibly on the chopping block they will risk losing a lot of users too. It would be far more detrimental to those YouTubers who rely on the money given by YouTube as it is their job, but I suppose that in turn would make YouTube their company boss of sorts and as such cannot control the final call made. I agree with BBA in that YouTube is for many a job, and a creative media outlet, the same way creating art by artists is a job for many, however it seems that many places of creative media or outlet are told what they do and their passion cannot be a real job. I think it's important to keep an open mind to the 'non-traditional' jobs that people choose to follow.  :smile:

 

Exactly, how are you going to limit someone's creativity like that? Youtube is all about making entertaining videos and if the terms of service trap you in a box then your creativity is startled. This is like telling a painter what to do and what not to do 24/7.

 

This world is becoming PC and the SJWS and tumblr feminists of the internet are winning. People have become so firetrucking sensitive to every little thing and now it's affecting people's jobs. Everyone needs a safe space nowadays because youtube videos hurt them.

Edited September 3, 20169 yr by Barry Bacon Allen

What's wrong with being a feminist?

I probably hold one of the more unpopular opinions in stating that I don't feel this is going to be too terrible for YouTube.  I mean, I do understand where the majority is coming from, and I don't want anyone to be out jobs, but this is a personal decision that YouTube has made, and it is probably to protect the younger and more innocent minds from some of the very messed up crap that is on YouTube.

 

I don't mind the swears, and I can understand the adult themes (when used correctly), but some things are just far too strong sometimes, I feel, and if YouTube chooses not to pay such people with such content I feel that it is their right to do so.  They are still allowed to upload them; they just don't get paid for them.

 

It all really depends on what people want their YouTube experience to be, of course.  For me I don't really enjoy the themes that they're not paying for, so it doesn't really affect me, so it is easy for me to say it's not that big of a deal.  For others I could see how this would be upsetting, but this is probably a decision that YouTube weighed carefully before making.  There may have been issues that we aren't aware of with young viewers, bad content, and YouTube at large that probed this decision.  It's hard to say, but of course this is just my opinion.

youtube really likes shooting itself in the foot a lot 

See, you just said its a job. So how is having standards for Pro Youtubers any different than having standards for employees for any other job?

 

I'd also like to point out that I didn't say YouTube should have terms of service, I said I didn't see anything wrong with them.

There's a difference between having standards and strictly limiting the freedom of your users. YouTube is a site that was created for people to express their creativity, and these guidelines impose on that. YouTube's become more and more strict over the years, and it's completely screwing over the people that get their income through the site. Channels are getting reported or demonetized for ridiculously stupid reasons, and it's unacceptable that YouTube has done nothing to change this.

 

Here's an example of how corrupt this system is: channels that focus on helping people overcome suicidal thoughts or similar depressing topics will be punished for helping out others if these guidelines are continued to be put into use. Simply tagging the video with a touchy subject puts it at risk of being demonetized. It's horrible that this is happening, and the team running YouTube needs to get their crap together before people abandon it and move to another content site altogether.