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AROD666 posted a status update
i think i may be a dad... firetruck this can't be happening
Robbie the Wise replied@Shana then he needs to get a job if doesn't do it willingly the courts will make him.
Robbie the Wise repliedIf he takes care of it that's a different story, if he doesn't he has every obligation to pay child support.
Robbie the Wise replied@Shana Women have to do the same thing you know there is no difference in the system between men and women
HarLea Quinn repliedThat bAby has a right to be taken care of period . If hes the father he should take care of it just like the mother has to take care of it .
HarLea Quinn repliedThe baby didnt ask to be born or to exist and cant take care of itself so BOTH parents are obligated to take care of it
Shana09 repliedhttp://kh13.com/forum/topic/42941-finally-some-logic-around-parenthood/#entry861613
Heres a thread about it.
I get where your coming from and it's alright I kind of thought that way too until I changed my view on this situation, but I still think if a woman has a right to do something with the baby the male has the right to do something with the baby as well. Such as Abortion and not paying for Child Support.
Robbie the Wise replied@shana So in other words you thought one way until one of your friends thought another way.
HarLea Quinn repliedNot everyone believes that abortion is an option therefore feel forced to have it . So if they are forced to take care of it they shouldnt have to do it alone because they didnt make the baby alone . Fact of the matter is it takes two to make a baby and it takes two to take care of one .Don't make excuses for people to be deadbeats .Its shameful ..Child support is mandatory for a freaking reason .
Robbie the Wise replied@Shana that's mot what you just said though
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Heres a thread about it.
I get where your coming from and it's alright I kind of thought that way too until I changed my view on this situation
HarLea Quinn repliedThis also brings in peoples moral and religious beliefs which is going to vary and bringing child support into this bc you think abortion is ok and therefore everyone does is also wrong because many dont feel that its right and that its an option .The baby shouldnt have to suffer bc of that .
HarLea Quinn repliedShana they need to figure out how to pay then . The baby deserves to be taken care of for they cant take care of themselves..
Robbie the Wise replied@Shana You don't have take our stance, but you also shouldn't put your stance on everyone else.
Robbie the Wise repliedThat's what you've been doing to me by justifying why a man shouldn't pay child support everytime I gave you a reason he should.
HarLea Quinn repliedShana thats BS bc a baby deserves to be taken care of .That shouldbt be an option unless you feel like parents shouldnt be made to take care of their children . NOT EVERYONE FEELS ABORTION IS AN OPTION . Therefore they feel like they have no choice . If they HAVE to have it then it needs taken care of . BOTH people made the baby so BOTH need to take care of it .Theres a reason its mandatory .By you saying that its like you are saying EVERYONE believes abortion is an option when to everyone i...
Robbie the Wise replied@shana So then if you know that, how do you expect the single mother to support the baby when the father doesn't want anything to do with it and is not paying child support.
HarLea Quinn repliedalso why open the door for fathers who did initially want the baby but after later breaking up with the mother then say they didnt want the kid just so they dont have to take care of the baby ?
HarLea Quinn repliedAnd it wont be hard for the mother ? Yet they still have to do it .So should the father .
Robbie the Wise repliedThat's not even the whole case there are plenty of father's who have steady jobs are out of school and have a stable environment and yet don't support their kids.
HarLea Quinn repliedexactly .. and if the mothers have to find a way so should the father . It takes two to make one and one person shouldnt just skip out .
HarLea Quinn repliedShana and the mothers in school dont have the same problem ? Yet they still need to figure it out .
HarLea Quinn repliedHope you never get knocked up and the father skips out on you shana .Thats all i got to say on that .
Robbie the Wise repliedThat's making a general statement and is not helping your case. Not to mention it still should not fall on the mother even if the father is in school. Both parties made a conscious descision to have sex, and in doing so took the risk of getting pregancy. If both are willing to take the risk, they both need to accept and face the consequences of the their descision.
Robbie the Wise replied@Shana no because it's the same thing for both party, If the mother doesn't take care of the child and the father does she has every obligation to pay child support.
HarLea Quinn repliedShana im looking at the POV that BOTH parties risked pregnancy and took that chance therefore need to accept the responsibility period . The baby needs taken care of regardless and BOTH people made the child . I dont care if a father thinks he cant afford to pay . Neither can the struggling single mother and its wrong to say he can skip out
Robbie the Wise repliedIf he or she can't they need to find the means to be able to support their kid. That's the bottom line. They brought the child into the world now they have a responsibilty to support it. No exuses.
Shana09 repliedOne last thing before I go.
Yeah a deadbeat dad not supporting their child is pretty bad but if they cant be able to pay for it is really bad as well. It's going to be hard and that's probably the only thing I can see alright? I mean, I'm not saying I support people not supporting their child, but if they cant pay for it I understand that. Yes they can get helped but if they cant get help something has to be going on. The situation I am talking about is a person being pregnan...
HarLea Quinn repliedShana, if u think a struggling father cant afford to pay what about the struggling single mother ? So only the father should be able to hoist off responsibility ? If a mother needs to figure it out so should the father.Both need to be responsible .What if the mother cant afford it ? Should the child starve ? Or go with holes in the shoes ?
Robbie the Wise repliedThey took that risk, they have to deal with the consequences. Bottom line they took on that burden the moment both of them decided to have sex. There is no excuse for not taking care of the kid, whether it's the mother or father somebody needs to go out and find the means to support the kid. No excuses.
Shana09 repliedYou forgot the part where I wrote "The situation I am talking about is a person being pregnant, not having a baby already"
if the person is just pregnant, and the father can't pay for it, then abortion.
Yes if the mother wants it then I guess they have to talk about it but if the father can't take care of it then there has to be some agreement.
HarLea Quinn repliedSo a woman should have to have an abortion bc the guy said so ? Umm no ..Especially if it goes aganist their own beliefs and should be forced into it bc he doesnt want it ? So the guys rights should be more important ?
HarLea Quinn repliedbut you are saying its also his choice to bail ....which isnt right either .
HarLea Quinn repliedalso what about the guys who at first say they want the kid and then later break up with the mother and then say they dont want the kid and refuse to take care of it ? What then ? This happens A LOT .
HarLea Quinn repliedshana thats not even guarenteed .. you cant say who is honest and who isnt ..
Robbie the Wise repliedI'll repeat myself what kind of agreement could they come up with in that situation.
HarLea Quinn repliedand what kind of agreement then tho ? Especialy if one parent is morally against abortion and the other isnt ?Is one persons right more important than the other ?
Robbie the Wise repliedNo you didn't say what kind of agreement, you just said they need to come up with one.
Robbie the Wise repliedAnd if they don't agree whose view is more important, answer that question because you keep dodging it.
HarLea Quinn repliedbut what if they dont agree ?what if what religiously and morally believe dont agree ? Does that mean its ok to force an abortion bc the father doesnt want to take care of it ?
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Lady Aleister posted a status update
Someone made fun of me because I listened to Vocaloid, so when the teacher walked out of the room, I cussed the dude out. Vocaloid is firetrucking awesome
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King Riku posted a status update
I was tricked.
Robbie the Wise repliedI set the whole thing up all so I could awaken the darkness inside you >
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xoblivionx13 posted a status update
Derp. Why does everything have to be due on a Friday T~T
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Good afternoon honey, Happy Anniversary!!! Hehe, I searched for Romeo X Juliet pics and I put them as my avy and siggy! I hope that you like them! I love you so much, and I miss you babe! I hope you come back soon hun!
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The Transcendent Key posted a status update
Learn to conquer yourself, and you can conquer anything that stands in your way.
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Lady Aleister posted a status update
OKAY PEEPS! LISTEN UP! I have A LOT of homework so let me do it
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Protoman posted a status update
whats a good energy drink that isnt monster
Queen Tery repliedHey you didn't say no caffeine. You just said energy drink. Water can give you energy. But hey you're a robot, so I guess oil might be a good start?
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Ven2000 posted a status update
Why does everyone thinks Sora, Roxas, Riku, Axel, Ventus, and Vanitas is gay?
Ultima Weapon repliedthat's right now you can't be close friends without people thinking your gay, but you have to admit they are a little too close sometimes
Ultima Weapon repliedtrue is, pretty much everything is in our messed up minds, but it's their fault too, for not specify, hehe.
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Queen Tery posted a status update
The more I watch trailers for AC3 the more I find Connor to be an extreme badass. Such is the curse of being an Assassin.
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Shana09 posted a status update
So there was a "fight" at lunch. And they just pushed each other and when they got security to stop them they both just did some....interesting dance moves as they walk outside the lunchroom.
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