So, everytime the future of the franchise is brought up everyone usually says

 

"It's been confirmed that Sora will be the main protagonist after KH3"

 

Most people will just trust that info and move on, but if you do some digging you'll find that the only piece of evidence backing this up is 1 article from Siliconera.

 

http://www.siliconera.com/2011/07/12/xehanorts-last-game-will-be-kingdom-hearts-iii-but-sora-will-still-be-the-series-protagonist/

 

That article came out 5 years ago, you know how outdated that is? He only began writing the scenario for KH3 in 2013, late 2013, CHRISTMAS 2013.

 

http://www.khinsider.com/news/Nomura-discusses-HD-2-5-ReMIX-KH3-chi-more-in-latest-Famitsu-3479

 

Nomura said he is currently writing the scenario for KINGDOM HEARTS III now.

 

He said that Sora would be the main hero of the future games 2 years before even writing the story of KH3. It's no longer a reliable piece of information and I don't buy into it anymore. Also, can we acknowledge the fact that Siliconera just listed things that Nomura 'said' rather than doing any type of formal introduction such as

 

"At this year's E3/TGS/PSX/Jump Festa, we spoke to Tetsuya Nomura...."

 

He more than likely changed his mind from then until now. Bad source, bad reference, bad article in general.

 

Yeah, but there's no interview or statement Nomura made that suggests a different protagonist or changes to the series in the future, so we can't say anything.

Yeah, but there's no interview or statement Nomura made that suggests a different protagonist or changes to the series in the future, so we can't say anything.

That's because he's never been asked. Thus it doesn't change anything to do with the validity of that Siliconera article or the facts I just mentioned.

Edited September 24, 20169 yr by Barry Bacon Allen

Is everyone forgetting that he may be lying to prevent spoilers and suprise us? Not saying that's what is happening but just sayin'.

Is everyone forgetting that he may be lying to prevent spoilers and suprise us? Not saying that's what is happening but just sayin'.

I was just about to suggest that, . But it would contradict the fact he didn't write the story for KH3 until December 2013. Maybe he had the idea of something happening to Sora at the end of KH3 back in 2011, I doubt it though. It's obvious he doesn't plan anything out.

Edited September 24, 20169 yr by Barry Bacon Allen

Yeah, but there's no interview or statement Nomura made that suggests a different protagonist or changes to the series in the future, so we can't say anything.

It was confirmed by Nomura that Sora will be the main protagonist after KH3.

A reckon a new protagonist would be good. Along with a new timeline. Connected, but completely separate from the current one.

A reckon a new protagonist would be good. Along with a new timeline. Connected, but completely separate from the current one.

Connected, but completely separate...I'm not sure I understand.

 

Anyway, Nomura might've started work on the physical scenario in 2013...but I'm pretty sure he knew where the story was going for awhile. He stated that he'd originally planned KH3D as a part of KH3, that means that when he started working on KH3D's scenario in 2010-2011, he actually knew what KH3's story was going to be. Saying 'Oh it's been 5 years so it doesn't apply anymore' is unfounded and probably untrue. The information we got is that Sora will be the protagonist even after KH3 and until it is proven wrong, it is the truth. The rest is speculation.

Edited September 24, 20169 yr by PrinceNoctis

Connected, but completely separate...I'm not sure I understand.

Lol, sorry, I meant connected story wise, but seperate timeline wise. So new story with some connections to the old one.

It was confirmed by Nomura that Sora will be the main protagonist after KH3.

They can always go back on that. It's just a statement and they can retract it whenever they want.

Connected, but completely separate...I'm not sure I understand.

 

Anyway, Nomura might've started work on the physical scenario in 2013...but I'm pretty sure he knew where the story was going for awhile. He stated that he'd originally planned KH3D as a part of KH3, that means that when he started working on KH3D's scenario in 2010-2011, he actually knew what KH3's story was going to be. Saying 'Oh it's been 5 years so it doesn't apply anymore' is unfounded and probably untrue. The information we got is that Sora will be the protagonist even after KH3 and until it is proven wrong, it is the truth. The rest is speculation.

This guy has no clue where anything is going. If he didn't work on the physical scenario, how would he have known what the story was going to be?

Saying 'Oh it's been 5 years so it doesn't apply anymore is unfounded and probably untrue'

 

Not really, things change during game development, we've seen this plenty of times with this franchise. Many things get scrapped and cut and added in. This is no different. Also, this was one article from before the game even went into production, with no sources or quotes. It could very well be fabricated.

Lol, sorry, I meant connected story wise, but seperate timeline wise. So new story with some connections to the old one.

So, if I understand correctly, you'd like something a la Legend Of Korra? Like, same universe and connections to the story of The Last Airbender but new cast, new enemies and new story as a whole. Not a continuity of the old story. I'd like that tbh

Edited September 24, 20169 yr by PrinceNoctis

Lol, sorry, I meant connected story wise, but seperate timeline wise. So new story with some connections to the old one.

They can always go back on that. It's just a statement and they can retract it whenever they want.

Exactly, it's Tetsuya Nomura we're talking about here.

A reckon a new protagonist would be good. Along with a new timeline. Connected, but completely separate from the current one.

100% agreed. Just restart the universe please, I don't want to be playing KH5 and have to remember the laws of time travel from KH3D or any rules from older games.

So, if I understand correctly, you'd like something a la Legend Of Korra? Like, same universe and connections to the story of The Last Airbender but new cast, new enemies and new story as a whole. Not a continuity of the old story.

Yeah, pretty much like that. It's a new saga so I see no problem. Maybe the new protagonist could be a descendant or ancestor of Sora, like how the protagonist of Dai Gyakuten Saiban (The Great Ace Attorney, a game that has not and probably will not come out in English), Narohudo Ryunoske is Phoenix Wright's ancestor.

 

Nop I don't waste my time on this idea..

It is confirmed no matter what. The future will likely be an adult Sora.

Just because it was confirmed doesn't mean it will happen. Like I said, they can retract that statement.

 

Bad example, but look at what happened with the FFXV release date. I know that it's not comparable, dates and characters are different things, but it shows that just because they confirmed something, doesn't mean it will stick.

This guy has no clue where anything is going. If he didn't work on the physical scenario, how would he have known what the story was going to be?

Saying 'Oh it's been 5 years so it doesn't apply anymore is unfounded and probably untrue'

 

Not really, things change during game development, we've seen this plenty of times with this franchise. Many things get scrapped and cut and added in. This is no different. Also, this was one article from before the game even went into production, with no sources or quotes. It could very well be fabricated.

I disagree. There is proof across the series that Nomura always has an idea of where he's taking the series next. The secret endings, the foreshadowing to BBS in KH2 and 358/2 days, the foreshadowing to 0.2 in BBS FM, and even more foreshadowing in the Re:Coded movie...the list goes on. And you're gonna tell me that with EVERYTHING that happened in KH3D, which is basically a huge prologue to KH3; just another glimpse of what is coming...Nomura doesn't know where he is going. Come on now --' And of course things change during development. I did not say Nomura knew every single thing that would happen in KH3 when he was working on KH3D, I said he had an IDEA of where the story was going. Meaning he knows the main plot points, writing the physical scenario is just putting the pieces (plot points) together on paper. I think Nomura knew what he was doing, and there is proof of that.

So, everytime the future of the franchise is brought up everyone usually says

 

"It's been confirmed that Sora will be the main protagonist after KH3"

 

Most people will just trust that info and move on, but if you do some digging you'll find that the only piece of evidence backing this up is 1 article from Siliconera.

 

http://www.siliconera.com/2011/07/12/xehanorts-last-game-will-be-kingdom-hearts-iii-but-sora-will-still-be-the-series-protagonist/

 

That article came out 5 years ago, you know how outdated that is? He only began writing the scenario for KH3 in 2013, late 2013, CHRISTMAS 2013.

 

http://www.khinsider.com/news/Nomura-discusses-HD-2-5-ReMIX-KH3-chi-more-in-latest-Famitsu-3479

 

Nomura said he is currently writing the scenario for KINGDOM HEARTS III now.

 

He said that Sora would be the main hero of the future games 2 years before even writing the story of KH3. It's no longer a reliable piece of information and I don't buy into it anymore. Also, can we acknowledge the fact that Siliconera just listed things that Nomura 'said' rather than doing any type of formal introduction such as

 

"At this year's E3/TGS/PSX/Jump Festa, we spoke to Tetsuya Nomura...."

 

He more than likely changed his mind from then until now. Bad source, bad reference, bad article in general.

What would make him change his mind then? How would we know if he did at all? Unless someone asks or if he talks about it at all, then we can't say for sure that he did change his mind. I for one am going with what we had in the first place. Nomura in that interview did indeed say Sora is the main protagonist after KH3. Raises, what kind of director of a franchise decides to change it up without telling his fans? I would imagine the risk of spoilers, but he has been a little more revealing lately.

Exactly, it's Tetsuya Nomura we're talking about here.

100% agreed. Just restart the universe please, I don't want to be playing KH5 and have to remember the laws of time travel from KH3D or any rules from older games.

I don't think restarting the universe as a whole is what Mythril meant...It's keeping the same universe but with a whole new storyline...although I agree that they should not use time travel again as a plot point in the series.

Just because it was confirmed doesn't mean it will happen. Like I said, they can retract that statement.

 

Bad example, but look at what happened with the FFXV release date. I know that it's not comparable, dates and characters are different things, but it shows that just because they confirmed something, doesn't mean it will stick.

Ofcourse a character like Kairi can be a protagonist in a sidegame.

But Sora will stay the main character in the numbered series.

I don't think restarting the universe as a whole is what Mythril meant...It's keeping the same universe but with a whole new storyline...although I agree that they should not use time travel again as a plot point in the series.

Yes, this is what I meant. Same universe, new storyline.

I disagree. There is proof across the series that Nomura always has an idea of where he's taking the series next. The secret endings, the foreshadowing to BBS in KH2 and 358/2 days, the foreshadowing to 0.2 in BBS FM, and even more foreshadowing in the Re:Coded movie...the list goes on. And you're gonna tell me that with EVERYTHING that happened in KH3D, which is basically a huge prologue to KH3; just another glimpse of what is coming...Nomura doesn't know where he is going. Come on now --' And of course things change during development. I did not say Nomura knew every single thing that would happen in KH3 when he was working on KH3D, I said he had an IDEA of where the story was going. Meaning he knows the main plot points, writing the physical scenario is just putting the pieces (plot points) together on paper. I think Nomura knew what he was doing, and there is proof of that.

The foreshadowing to BBS in KH2? The secret ending was conceptual, the Xigbar line 'Not a hero like the others were' just meant that there were keyblade wielders before Sora and Riku. Doesn't tie into anyone specifically.

 

The Xion looking like Ventus in 358 Days isn't foreshadowing since BBS and Days were developed around the same time.

 

I never saw the Re:Coded movie so I won't comment on that.

 

That still doesn't change the fact he could retract his statement, the reliability of the Siliconera article is not very high as it has no quotes, references and doesn't even specifiy where Nomura said this (Event wise, did they go to SE HQ?). He could have scrapped that idea altogether.

Ofcourse a character like Kairi can be a protagonist in a sidegame.

But Sora will stay the main character in the numbered series.

Agreed, but that doesn't change my original argument. Confirmation does not mean it's definite. That's all I'm saying.

What would make him change his mind then? How would we know if he did at all? Unless someone asks or if he talks about it at all, then we can't say for sure that he did change his mind. I for one am going with what we had in the first place. Nomura in that interview did indeed say Sora is the main protagonist after KH3. Raises, what kind of director of a franchise decides to change it up without telling his fans? I would imagine the risk of spoilers, but he has been a little more revealing lately.

Plenty of things could have made him change his mind, we just don't know what they are yet.

 

It's more logical to assume that he could have. How do you even know the article is legit? It has no quotes, references or anything to prove itself. The article is 5 years old, I don't trust it anymore tbh. If it was from 2014 or even 2013 then maybe I would, but 5 years old? It's safe to assume he would have changed his mind since then.

 

It isn't even an interview, it's just Siliconera saying "Nomura said this". Anyone could have made that up...

 

He has been more revealing 'lately', for a mobile phone game and a movie, not for a AAA game that he's been asked about since 2006/2007.

Agreed, but that doesn't change my original argument. Confirmation does not mean it's definite. That's all I'm saying.

I see they have started writing since 2011 you know.

2013 began the production. They have writed together the story from KH3 with 3D.

The foreshadowing to BBS in KH2? The secret ending was conceptual, the Xigbar line 'Not a hero like the others were' just meant that there were keyblade wielders before Sora and Riku. Doesn't tie into anyone specifically.

 

The Xion looking like Ventus in 358 Days isn't foreshadowing since BBS and Days were developed around the same time.

 

I never saw the Re:Coded movie so I won't comment on that.

 

That still doesn't change the fact he could retract his statement, the reliability of the Siliconera article is not very high as it has no quotes, references and doesn't even specifiy where Nomura said this (Event wise, did they go to SE HQ?). He could have scrapped that idea altogether.

The possibility of him retracting his statement cannot be denied. I give that to you, but isn't that the case for basically everything Nomura's said. I mean Nomura could choose to not make Sora playable  in KH3. You said it yourself, things change along development ...it's almost been a year since we last saw KH3 BUT for now, we've only seen Sora as a playable character. He's the only one confirmed. So there's no reason that he won't be playable. The same goes for Sora being the main protagonist, Nomura has confirmed he would be the main character. Once again, the rest is speculation. And you're free to speculate all you want. But don't state it as a fact. And btw, I meant KH2FM not Vanilla KH2. And even though the secret ending was conceptual, it still shows that Nomura had an idea for the next KH game. An idea CAN be conceptual. Plus, 358/2 days was foreshadowing BBS even if they were developped at the same time. It was still foreshadowing a game that had not been released. Now we could argue about this all day, but I ain't got time for this.

 

 

In the re:Coded movie, Maleficent talks about the book of Prophecy and stuff...and now she's showed in KHX...

 

Edited September 25, 20169 yr by PrinceNoctis

Plenty of things could have made him change his mind, we just don't know what they are yet.

 

It's more logical to assume that he could have. How do you even know the article is legit? It has no quotes, references or anything to prove itself. The article is 5 years old, I don't trust it anymore tbh. If it was from 2014 or even 2013 then maybe I would, but 5 years old? It's safe to assume he would have changed his mind since then.

 

It isn't even an interview, it's just Siliconera saying "Nomura said this". Anyone could have made that up...

 

He has been more revealing 'lately', for a mobile phone game and a movie, not for a AAA game that he's been asked about since 2006/2007.

If I am not mistaken, I believe that there is an interview in the archives that has him saying so. I can't fully recall what one, but I believe we do have it in the archives. Nonetheless, I still think Nomura has changed nothing and Sora remains the protagonist post KH3.

That doesn't change the fact that Nomura probably still intends for Sora to remain the main protagonist after KH3. Just because one article is 5 years old (what, so records of WWII aren't worth our time anymore because it took place almost 100 years ago?) doesn't mean that anything has changed. Sure, relying on just one source alone to say that Sora will remain the main protagonist isn't as strong of an argument, but the same can be said for saying that Nomura changed his mind just based on the fact alone that you don't trust Silioconeria. The fact is, we don't know what the future holds. We may have to wait for Nomura to be asked that kind of question again in the future, but if you ask me it really feels like the intent of the series is to keep Sora as the main protagonist. There may be titles that focus on other characters or even new ones from time to time, but it always has a tendency to return to Sora in the end. Maybe that will change too, maybe Nomura will want to continue the next few titles through the eyes of a new character, but I highly doubt he would stay away from Sora forever. It just doesn't feel like a logical conclusion that because one source that said this is unreliable, the idea of Sora ever remaining the main protagonist must be false. It's just way too dismissive. We don't properly know anything yet, but all I'm saying is never say never.

Well, I believe Sora will continue onward in the series after the Xehanort Saga ends, but will there also be new protagonists coming aboard?  Yes, I believe so!  I mean, you can still have Sora be an important character in the series while bringing over fresh new faces, ya know?

 

But well, if Nomura is asked upon this subject, I'm sure whatever his answer is, it'll be interesting!