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Braig became half xehanort in bbs I noticed this because in the first scene you see him in hollow bastion he has brown eyes but when u see him in the keyblade graveyard his eyes are yellow.

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Yep. You might want to change your topic title btw, it's a spoiler for those who have not played BBS.

Yes, and you get that nice close-up of his eye in the scene where he confronts ventus and aqua. Very obvious foreshadowing, I know it made me think a little but I never imagined that it meant he was half xehanort.

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i wasnt think about it before 3d came out i thought it was just a screw up

Yep. You might want to change your topic title btw, it's a spoiler for those who have not played BBS.

 

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i wasnt think about it before 3d came out i thought it was just a screw up

 

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Edited by TwiliLord

i didnt know this either..... now i wanna go back and see for my self.

He also gets the weird Xehanort elf-like ears. Everyone just notices the eyes!

I never noticed this....and I'm always observant.

I hadn't noticed this either, but are you sure he's really becoming Xehanort?  Maybe it's just from traveling through dark portals?

Wow, I hadn't noticed that either. You learn something new everyday!

I hadn't noticed this either, but are you sure he's really becoming Xehanort?  Maybe it's just from traveling through dark portals?

Play 3D

 

We should have known in Days when in the Japanese version he calls Roxas "kitten". Pedobear alert!

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When I first played it, I thought it was simply a side effect of the darkness that took his other eye. Now I know different...

Play 3D

 

We should have known when in Days when in the Japanese version he calls Roxas "kitten". Pedobear alert!

I have played 3D; I'd meant that I wasn't sure he was turning into Xehanort in BbS is all.

I already knew this, but good job on pointing this out. 

The wiki had told me long ago...

I have played 3D; I'd meant that I wasn't sure he was turning into Xehanort in BbS is all.

Ah ok. Sorry

Braig is just a plain psychopath. He's funny in an annoying way, but I don't like him. xD  And yeah, I noticed his yellow eye.  

It was one of those things I put together when Xigbar says "I'm already half Xehanort" and then it zooms in on its eyes. I can see how some people missed it though.

I did not figure this out until I got to the end of TWTNW in KH3D when Xigbar said "Me? I'm already half-Xehanort." Then, something clicked and I immediately thought back to Braig in the Keyblade Graveyard and why the camera zoomed on his eye and why it was golden and not brown.

yes i can tell (wouldnt really out as a spoiler since BBS has been out for a while now owo)

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Noticed that before. And correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Braig willingly become half-Xehanort because he wanted to wield a Keyblade, even at the cost of his free will?

because he wanted to wield a Keyblade, even at the cost of his free will?

 

Well, did he know that he would lose himself?

Who knows what Xehanort told him?

  • 1 month later...

I've already posted this in a KH2 section that discussed golden eyes, but I feel it's more relevant here;

 

I'm pretty sure the significance of the eyes had changed over the course of the series' development, likely becoming altered from the 'full submission to darkness' to signifying Xehanort's influence/heart. Nomura was likely aping Star Wars , wherein dark amber/yellow eyes signified one's turn to the dark side of the force. 

 

 

It's probable that Nomura's decision to make the eye change a sign of Xehanort's possession did not arise until BBS was well into development.

Recall, for instance, that Terra was originally supposed to get yellow eyes before confronting Old Xehanort (the KH2FM secret movie/BBS opening movie). However, in BBS the game, the eyes are a reveal of Xehanort possessing his body.

(Lucas similarly retconned the significance of the eyes by showing Palpatine's transition from Senator to Sith Lord with corresponding eye color change as a consequence of him getting electrocuted.)

 

Furthermore, as many noticed, there is the whole thing with Braig's eye changing (and his ears turning pointy). Indeed, BBS established a vaguely defined deal between Braig and Xehanort and Nomura explained that Xehanort was influencing Braig in an interview.

 

The game itself does imply that Braig is a Xeha-clone. Aside from the Close-up of his new eye prior to his battle to Aqua, it is notable that his boss battle now features him making 'dark teleports', which are identical to Xehanort's and Terranort's.

 

His dialogue with Aqua post-battle also features a few interesting lines:

 

 

 

 

I keep forgetting - don't mess with keyblade wielders. But you know what? That just means I made the right choice!

 

 

 

 

Braig's line here suggests that he made the choice to become a keyblade wielder. So, basically, to become a Xeha-clone.

 

There are a lot of holes, however, in regard to this schema.

 

For one thing, how the hell did Xehanort transfer his heart into Braig? Supposedly, he needs access to Kingdom Hearts to accomplish this and his original body would vanish upon completion of the transfer (as the Terra thing demonstrated). 

 

For another, Braig 2.0 states in 3D that the whole (retconned) plan for the Organization was to "round up a bunch of empty husks, hook them up to KH, then fill them all with the same heart and mind."

 

Supposedly, then, to become a Xeha-clone, he would need to have first become a Nobody. But the thing is, Braig became a Xeha-clone before he became Xigbar. So, wouldn't he have lost his Nort-ified heart upon becoming a nobody (as the 3D opening movie demonstrates)? What was the point of even having all the Apprentices become nobodies and work towards KH if Xehanort could've nortified them like he had nortified Braig?

 

In other words, the new plan for the Organization makes no sense.

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