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It's stated that in order to move through time, there must be a version of yourself waiting at the destination. By that logic, how is Young Xehanort able to be in the present? Master Xehanort had not been resurrected yet, so there was not a version of himself waiting in the present. All the members were there before Master Xehanort was recomplete. After Xemnas was defeated, all traces of Xehanort were destroyed, so how could Young Xehanort travel to the present? That's my question. Is Nomura already breaking his own rule or is there an explanation that I'm not seeing?

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Isa and Braig/Xigbar are most likely from the current timeline. and if for some odd reason they are from a different timeline. There are plenty of other vessels that could be from that timeline. 

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Fool. Those rules were made specifically to fit the situation. I'm sure it makes sense. 

After a whole lot of this

 

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I kinda gave up on trying to make sense of the time travel thing.

I haven't really understood the whole time travel thing . But I can tell ya that much : I think that after the defeat of Xemnas , Xehanort was immediately ressurected . So I guess Young Xehanort was able to travel in time . But I must be wrong because with that logic , how did Young Xehanort travel in the Land Of Departure ? I am confused .

How do you time travel in the first place?

Are you talking about the present in Dream Drop Distance? Because if you are then Master Xehanort was resurrected shortly after Xemnas death because both his heart and body had return to each other. Remember there are thirteen Xehanorts, Master Xehanort himself, Young Xehanort, Ansem SoD, Xemnas, Isa, Braig, and seven other Xehanorts we don't know about. So Young Xehanort could have use the other unknown seven Xehanorts to get to the present.

Isa and Braig/Xigbar are most likely from the current timeline. and if for some odd reason they are from a different timeline. There are plenty of other vessels that could be from that timeline.

This in fact if you stop and think about it there is a scene that confirms it. In every scene with Ansem and Xemnas we see Young Xehanort present first acting as the anchor that ties them to the present. In Sora's final scenes Xigbar appears first followed closely by Xemnas in that same manner.

It's stated that in order to move through time, there must be a version of yourself waiting at the destination. By that logic, how is Young Xehanort able to be in the present? Master Xehanort had not been resurrected yet, so there was not a version of himself waiting in the present. All the members were there before Master Xehanort was recomplete. After Xemnas was defeated, all traces of Xehanort were destroyed, so how could Young Xehanort travel to the present? That's my question. Is Nomura already breaking his own rule or is there an explanation that I'm not seeing?

If I remember correctl,y Ansem was in the Destiny Island when it was first destroyed, after the battle against Ursula, therefore, Young Xehanort could travel to that point and enter the Realm of Sleep from there. Wasn't this how he entered the Realm of Sleep?

 

 

I haven't really understood the whole time travel thing . But I can tell ya that much : I think that after the defeat of Xemnas , Xehanort was immediately ressurected . So I guess Young Xehanort was able to travel in time . But I must be wrong because with that logic , how did Young Xehanort travel in the Land Of Departure ? I am confused .

Simple: He got there when Xehanort was there to kill Eraqus, and stayed until a bit after the Land of Departure was emerged in darkness. This would technically mean that only Terra's version of the battle is canon.

However, this brings another question: Why was he there in the first place?

 

 

This in fact if you stop and think about it there is a scene that confirms it. In every scene with Ansem and Xemnas we see Young Xehanort present first acting as the anchor that ties them to the present. In Sora's final scenes Xigbar appears first followed closely by Xemnas in that same manner.

For The Grid and La Cité des Cloches yes. However, Nomura confirmed that Ansem and Xemnas weren't time travelling in The World that Never Was:

 

— In other words, Ansem and Xemnas were, at the same time, existing in the time and space of KH3D as well as having returned to their true human form after being destroyed?

Nomura: Yes, it does turn out that way. However, as I said before, "The World That Never Was", where the thirteen all met, is a special space. The mechanics behind how they were all able to exist at the same time is a mystery. From KH1 on, Ansem has returned no matter how many times he has been defeated, perhaps the same sort of thing happened.

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It's stated that in order to move through time, there must be a version of yourself waiting at the destination. By that logic, how is Young Xehanort able to be in the present? Master Xehanort had not been resurrected yet, so there was not a version of himself waiting in the present. All the members were there before Master Xehanort was recomplete. After Xemnas was defeated, all traces of Xehanort were destroyed, so how could Young Xehanort travel to the present? That's my question. Is Nomura already breaking his own rule or is there an explanation that I'm not seeing?

Braig did mention that he was half of Xehanort. But as G-Santos has stated, YX was able to make his way into the plot from when Sora and Riku entered the Realm of Sleep.

There are no laws, or rules. Things will change on a whim the moment it becomes convenient for Nomura to do so. I wouldn't put any extra worry into it.

If I remember correctl,y Ansem was in the Destiny Island when it was first destroyed, after the battle against Ursula, therefore, Young Xehanort could travel to that point and enter the Realm of Sleep from there. Wasn't this how he entered the Realm of Sleep?  Simple: He got there when Xehanort was there to kill Eraqus, and stayed until a bit after the Land of Departure was emerged in darkness. This would technically mean that only Terra's version of the battle is canon.However, this brings another question: Why was he there in the first place?  For The Grid and La Cité des Cloches yes. However, Nomura confirmed that Ansem and Xemnas weren't time travelling in The World that Never Was: — In other words, Ansem and Xemnas were, at the same time, existing in the time and space of KH3D as well as having returned to their true human form after being destroyed?Nomura: Yes, it does turn out that way. However, as I said before, "The World That Never Was", where the thirteen all met, is a special space. The mechanics behind how they were all able to exist at the same time is a mystery. From KH1 on, Ansem has returned no matter how many times he has been defeated, perhaps the same sort of thing happened.

What are you talking about that interview is discussing how TWTNW was able to house all the Norts at the same time despite that fact that some of them were not able to exist simultaneously even with time travel. He specifically credits TWTNW as the reason they could be in the same place despite the circumstances. No where does it confirm that time travel wasn't used.

 

Simple: He got there when Xehanort was there to kill Eraqus, and stayed until a bit after the Land of Departure was emerged in darkness. This would technically mean that only Terra's version of the battle is canon.

However, this brings another question: Why was he there in the first place?

 

Maybe to "test" Terra or something ? Like Xemnas did in Kingdom Hearts I ..?

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