Since hes technically one with Sora now, how big of a role do you all think he'll play in the new game?

Considering DDD you should know he's practically guaranteed to make a return as his own separate person since he grew his own heart besides harboring Ven's. He will help battle Xehanort in some capacity regardless since I'm sure it won't be just the 7 lights but all their friends too aiding them. 

At some point in the game, Sora will probably enter in some kind of emotional state, reacting to some sinister revelation from the villains, and will use the power of the four hearts at the same time, and quadruple wield the Oblivion, Oathkeeper, Two Become One, and Wayward Wind, or maybe Kingdom Key, WW, TBO (which I believe will be Roxas's new Keyblade), and Omega Blade (which may be Xion's new Keyblade), with the WW being wielded in the left hand and backwards, and Roxas and Xion's Keyblades floating behind Sora like in the Final Form. During the summoning scene, we see glimpses of Roxas, Xion, and Ventus justaposing Roxas for one second each. The boss battle allows Sora to use moves only Roxas could.

 

Then, at some point in the game, Sora will transform into Roxas for one battle, where Roxas is the playable character and Lea is the party member and they fight Isa, with a Limit move where they stand at opposng sides of the battlefield with Isa in the middle and they throw their Keyblades and one chakram at the boss with the other grabbing the thrown weapon from the other side and throwing again.

Or maybe Sora somehow becomes a Heartless again and Roxas, reborn, temporarily replaces him as the protagonist for with Lea as his party member, but the Isa battle still occurs.

Edited September 19, 201510 yr by G-SANtos

He will return for sure , along with Ventus, Xion, Namine , Terra, Ventus and Aqua ( if she doesn't save herself first, who knows what happens in BBS 0.2)

 

Even though his voice is annoying HMK or some else did a very interesting analysis about who the seven guardians will be based of the little chess like game Eraques and Xehanort was playing in the KH3 E3 2015 trailer.The pieces all had symbols that represent who the lights will be, There was symbols on the chess board from Eraqus side that represented Sora, Riku, Kairi, King Mickey , Roxas, Ventus, and a final unidentifiable piece ( maybe it is Aqua or Terra?).

 

edit: the seventh piece was Lea and the beginning of the video Xehanort takes a piece of Eraqus' away from him and that piece was suppose to represent  Terra , so more then likely Terra either falls in the battle and gets possessed  or Young Xehanort captures him way before the final battle in KH3

 

but it is just a theory      

Edited September 19, 201510 yr by MasterRoxas13

I don't know. In the previous Kingdom Hearts games, Birth by Sleep, Re:Coded, and Dream Drop Distance it was strongly hinted that Roxas will be saved and be his own person with his own heart. I have a theory that Roxas might be one of the seven lights because Roxas is definitely a strong Keyblade Keyblade wielder and a worthy candidate. I hope it happens but I might be wrong.

He will return for sure , along with Ventus, Xion, Namine , Terra, Ventus and Aqua ( if she doesn't save herself first, who knows what happens in BBS 0.2)

 

Even though his voice is annoying HMK or some else did a very interesting analysis about who the seven guardians will be based of the little chess like game Eraques and Xehanort was playing in the KH3 E3 2015 trailer.The pieces all had symbols that represent who the lights will be, There was symbols on the chess board from Eraqus side that represented Sora, Riku, Kairi, King Mickey , Roxas Ventus, and a final unidentifiable piece ( maybe it is Aqua or Terra?).          

Hmm I think Aqua will be one of the seven lights but that's just me.

At some point in the game, Sora will probably enter in some kind of emotional state, reacting to some sinister revelation from the villains, and will use the power of the four hearts at the same time, and quadruple wield the Oblivion, Oathkeeper, Two Become One, and Wayward Wind, or maybe Kingdom Key, WW, TBO (which I believe will be Roxas's new Keyblade), and Omega Blade (which may be Xion's new Keyblade), with the WW being wielded in the left hand and backwards, and Roxas and Xion's Keyblades floating behind Sora like in the Final Form. During the summoning scene, we see glimpses of Roxas, Xion, and Ventus justaposing Roxas for one second each. The boss battle allows Sora to use moves only Roxas could.

 

Then, at some point in the game, Sora will transform into Roxas for one battle, where Roxas is the playable character and Lea is the party member and they fight Isa, with a Limit move where they stand at opposng sides of the battlefield with Isa in the middle and they throw their Keyblades and one chakram at the boss with the other grabbing the thrown weapon from the other side and throwing again.

Or maybe Sora somehow becomes a Heartless again and Roxas, reborn, temporarily replaces him as the protagonist for with Lea as his party member, but the Isa battle still occurs.

I thought something like MX splitting Sora into two, to try to get his body, but Roxas spawns instead and Roxas and Sora tag team and wreck shop for a battle thatd be kinda cool, the battle could randomly switch between characters both dual wielding being BA's and stuff

I'm sure that Roxas will play an important role in Kingdom Hearts III, since he's been an important character in the series overall!  And I'm pretty sure he'll become his own person, because after all he's been through, he deserves that!

Cameo at best

I've always had the head canon that, in the event that Xehanort or someone else tries to get in the ol' heart again, that Roxas will be there to try and fend off any Darkness trying to come into his home. 

I really think Roxas will be reborn when Sora gives Ven his heart back.

A drive form if drive forms return.

sorry to crush your hopes guys, but I think it is highly probable that Roxas won't return and this is because he is Ventus (Ven's heart went inside Roxas after Sora sacrifice).

 

Plus it would be super strange and awkward to make two identical characters return in KH3

sorry to crush your hopes guys, but I think it is highly probable that Roxas won't return and this is because he is Ventus (Ven's heart went inside Roxas after Sora sacrifice).Plus it would be super strange and awkward to make two identical characters return in KH3

And sorry to break it to you but Ven's body is in CO ( which would make up his nobody since nobodies are the leftover body and soul once the heart leaves) Yes his heart went into Roxas but it was dormant with no memories which was why he had NONE of Ven's memories.He didn't have Sora's either atm bc Sora retained himself after Kairi intervening. Because of this Roxas was born a 'zombie.' Ven's heart gave his appearance since it was the only heart in there atm since Sora's was gone. He did not even have access to Ven's keyblade until Xion's death and the trauma of her death awakened that ability from Ven's heart. He first wielded Sora's keyblade bc he's SORA's nobody and then dual wielded with Ven's keyblade later. This was all confirmed by Nomura that he was a special nobody in that sense numerous times. DDD showed Sora stressing that Roxas did indeed become his own person with his own heart and told him so! Not to mention the ending with Ansem the Wise showcasing the characters that need saved and Ansem describing how this can happen. Did you not play DDD?

And sorry to break it to you but Ven's body is in CO ( which would make up his nobody since nobodies are the leftover body and soul once the heart leaves) Yes his heart went into Roxas but it was dormant with no memories which was why he had NONE of Ven's memories.He didn't have Sora's either atm bc Sora retained himself after Kairi intervening. Because of this Roxas was born a 'zombie.' Ven's heart gave his appearance since it was the only heart in there atm since Sora's was gone. He did not even have access to Ven's keyblade until Xion's death and the trauma of her death awakened that ability from Ven's heart. He first wielded Sora's keyblade bc he's SORA's nobody and then dual wielded with Ven's keyblade later. This was all confirmed by Nomura that he was a special nobody in that sense  numerous times. DDD showed Sora stressing that Roxas did indeed become his own person with his own heart and told him so! Not to mention the ending with Ansem the Wise showcasing the characters that need saved and Ansem describing how this can happen. Did you not play DDD?

Ven's body location isn't important, in the KH universe a person is defined by his heart, and I don't think Ven's one was dormant when inside Roxasand he had no Ven's memories because he's still technically Sora's nobody.Now, the tricky part comes when we talk about Roxas keyblade, in fact I believe the keyblade he has since the beginning is Ven's one (in the form of kingdom key) and after Xion's death he absorbs her (but I'm not really sure about this) and gains the ability of dual wield.Saying Roxas can wield a keyblade because of his status as Sora's nobody is nonsense to me, since keyblade are connected to hearts and nobody don't initially have one.I'm not going to say I'm absolutely right and there's no possibility Roxas will return, but you guys have to say it is possible it might not happen and however as said before it would be awkward

Ven's body location isn't important, in the KH universe a person is defined by his heart, and I don't think Ven's one was dormant when inside Roxas

and he had no Ven's memories because he's still technically Sora's nobody.

 

Now, the tricky part comes when we talk about Roxas keyblade, in fact I believe the keyblade he has since the beginning is Ven's one (in the form of kingdom key) and after Xion's death he absorbs her (but I'm not really sure about this) and gains the ability of dual wield.

Saying Roxas can wield a keyblade because of his status as Sora's nobody is nonsense to me, since keyblade are connected to hearts and nobody don't initially have one.

I'm not going to say I'm absolutely right and there's no possibility Roxas will return, but you guys have to say it is possible it might not happen and however as said before it would be awkward

Ven's body is important when discussing whose somebody's nobody is given the very definition of what one is in the first place. Namine is the only exception bc shes a verified anomoly bc she's born from a PoH with abilities we still don't know fully..Roxas wielded Sora's keyblade all the way to the end of Days until he awakened Ven's through Xion's death. Most nobodies aren't wielders in the first place that we have seen except Roxas and Xemnas and Nomura has also confirmed Xemnas could've wielded too but might've chose not to for his own reasons. Also wielders nobodies can also wield bc they are still tied to their hearts. So once again nope wrong.

 

Ven's heart was dormant and that's why he could not dual wield Ven's until after Xion's death that awakened Ven's keyblade. This is verified many times but here are some quotes from Nomura explaining this what Roxas wields. Also Xion's keyblade was a replica - an imitation. Stated by Nomura himself and by Riku in game.You are quite wrong sorry my friend: Catch up reading the interviews, reports, and cutscenes in these games bc you seemed to have gotten lost somewhere. Of course it's not impossible for Roxas to not come back but really it's almost a guarantee after DDD if not even other games as well. Nomura himself thank you :

VII - In KH, at the same time Sora became a Heartless Roxas was born and entered the Organization. So if that's the case, at that point in time at Castle Oblivion Sora used a Keyblade while at the same time Roxas would have been using a Keyblade. Was this Sora's Keyblade? Within the Organization I think we particularly saw Roxas using a Keyblade. And similar to Roxas, Sora served as another Keyblade Master conveniently gathering hearts. So why was the Organization defeated?

The Keyblade that Roxas used and the thing that Sora once lost in Castle Oblivion are the same thing. Furthermore, these two both used the Keyblade at the same time. This is can be explained by the relationship between Roxas and Sora. Thus, that both can wield two Keyblades in fact has an important meaning. This is also related to Xehanort's memories, but this point can't be touched on just yet.

Furthermore, from the time that the two were both using the Keyblade at the same time, the Organization itself was using Sora for their ultimate goal. Soon enough, each of the Organization's expectations differed. By changing Sora and Roxas's movements, eventually they became unable to use Sora for their true meaning. As a result, Sora became an obstacle to the movements of the Organization itself and he had to be defeated. But even if Sora were to be defeated, you could say there are other things to think about in making that sacrifice.

4: Why can Roxas dual-wield?

Because he can use both Sora’s and Ventus’s Keyblades.



 Sora can wield two Keyblades at once because he has Ventus’s as well as
 his own. As Roxas is a part of Sora, he also can use two. In Days, Roxas
 awakened his ability to dual-wield after fighting Xion. In KHII, once
 Sora absorbed Roxas, he could also dual-wield. Roxas awoke his ability to dual-wield through his will to not forget Xion, who also wielded a Keyblade.

– Namine tells Riku that in order for Sora’s memories to be restored, both Sora’s Nobody and Xion must no longer exist. So he takes it on himself to defeat them, but when he and Roxas fought, was that the first time he had realized that Roxas was that Nobody?

Nomura: Riku only realizes it when Roxas takes off his hood and he can see his face, and he responds to his call. Until then he only half believed. When he first met Xion, he didn’t think that she was Sora or Kairi’s Nobody, and it was the same with Roxas. When he first saw Roxas, he had no proof of who he was. So that’s why he lost to Roxas, he was surprised at him using a real keyblade rather than an imitation like Xion’s, and he called out to him. Part of Riku didn’t really want to believe that his best friend really had a Nobody.

[*]Roxas, the “Sora + Ventus” Nobody, was able to use a Keyblade. In contrast, Xemnas, the “Terra + Master Xehanort” Nobody, wasn’t able to use a Keyblade. Why is this?

I’d rather that point remain a mystery. It’s possible that he intentionally wasn’t using one.

It's (In a way) confirmed that Xion, Ventus and Roxas will return. So let's hope Roxas will have a big role!

Well, Roxas will become his own person in Kingdom Hearts 3, so I'm pretty sure he'll have a big role to play, either as one of the seven Guardians of Light or aiding them in some way.

 

It's pretty much confirmed at this point (multiple times) that Roxas and all the others that have been lost (Roxas, Namine, Xion, Aqua, Terra and Ventus) will return.

 

• Ansem the Wise told Aqua in Birth By Sleep.
• Data-Namine told Data-Sora and King Mickey in Re:Coded.
• Data-Ansem the Wise told Riku in Dream Drop Distance.

Edited September 19, 201510 yr by Master Eraqus

Ven's body is important when discussing whose somebody's nobody is given the very definition of what one is in the first place. Namine is the only exception bc shes a verified anomoly bc she's born from a PoH with abilities we still don't know fully..Roxas wielded Sora's keyblade all the way to the end of Days until he awakened Ven's through Xion's death. Most nobodies aren't wielders in the first place that we have seen except Roxas and Xemnas and Nomura has also confirmed Xemnas could've wielded too but might've chose not to for his own reasons. Also wielders nobodies can also wield bc they are still tied to their hearts. So once again nope wrong.

 

Ven's heart was dormant and that's why he could not dual wield Ven's until after Xion's death that awakened Ven's keyblade. This is verified many times but here are some quotes from Nomura explaining this what Roxas wields. Also Xion's keyblade was a replica - an imitation. Stated  by Nomura himself and by Riku in game.You are quite wrong sorry my friend: Catch up reading the interviews, reports, and cutscenes in these games bc you seemed to have gotten lost somewhere. Of course it's not impossible for Roxas to not come back but really it's almost a guarantee after DDD if not even other games as well. Nomura himself thank you :

 

VII - In KH, at the same time Sora became a Heartless Roxas was born and entered the Organization. So if that's the case, at that point in time at Castle Oblivion Sora used a Keyblade while at the same time Roxas would have been using a Keyblade. Was this Sora's Keyblade? Within the Organization I think we particularly saw Roxas using a Keyblade. And similar to Roxas, Sora served as another Keyblade Master conveniently gathering hearts. So why was the Organization defeated?

The Keyblade that Roxas used and the thing that Sora once lost in Castle Oblivion are the same thing. Furthermore, these two both used the Keyblade at the same time. This is can be explained by the relationship between Roxas and Sora. Thus, that both can wield two Keyblades in fact has an important meaning. This is also related to Xehanort's memories, but this point can't be touched on just yet.

Furthermore, from the time that the two were both using the Keyblade at the same time, the Organization itself was using Sora for their ultimate goal. Soon enough, each of the Organization's expectations differed. By changing Sora and Roxas's movements, eventually they became unable to use Sora for their true meaning. As a result, Sora became an obstacle to the movements of the Organization itself and he had to be defeated. But even if Sora were to be defeated, you could say there are other things to think about in making that sacrifice.

 

4: Why can Roxas dual-wield?

Because he can use both Sora’s and Ventus’s Keyblades.



 Sora can wield two Keyblades at once because he has Ventus’s as well as
 his own. As Roxas is a part of Sora, he also can use two. In Days, Roxas
 awakened his ability to dual-wield after fighting Xion. In KHII, once
 Sora absorbed Roxas, he could also dual-wield. Roxas awoke his ability to dual-wield through his will to not forget Xion, who also wielded a Keyblade.

 

– Namine tells Riku that in order for Sora’s memories to be restored, both Sora’s Nobody and Xion must no longer exist. So he takes it on himself to defeat them, but when he and Roxas fought, was that the first time he had realized that Roxas was that Nobody?

Nomura: Riku only realizes it when Roxas takes off his hood and he can see his face, and he responds to his call. Until then he only half believed. When he first met Xion, he didn’t think that she was Sora or Kairi’s Nobody, and it was the same with Roxas. When he first saw Roxas, he had no proof of who he was. So that’s why he lost to Roxas, he was surprised at him using a real keyblade rather than an imitation like Xion’s, and he called out to him. Part of Riku didn’t really want to believe that his best friend really had a Nobody.

 

 

[*]Roxas, the “Sora + Ventus” Nobody, was able to use a Keyblade. In contrast, Xemnas, the “Terra + Master Xehanort” Nobody, wasn’t able to use a Keyblade. Why is this?

I’d rather that point remain a mystery. It’s possible that he intentionally wasn’t using one.

You were right, Roxas first keyblade is Sora's and the second one is Ven's.

However this doesn't completely destroy my theory, in fact I'm very suspicious about that "Roxas keyblade is Sora's", this implies Roxas doesn't have his own keyblade and this makes me think he can use a keyblade in the first place just because of Ven's heart being inside him.

 

however we're missing the real point, in the end Roxas return as his own person is possible only if he really developed his own heart like Axel did.

You say he developed his own and that Ven's one was inside him but dormant, instead I believe his heart is actually Ven's.

You were right, Roxas first keyblade is Sora's and the second one is Ven's.However this doesn't completely destroy my theory, in fact I'm very suspicious about that "Roxas keyblade is Sora's", this implies Roxas doesn't have his own keyblade and this makes me think he can use a keyblade in the first place just because of Ven's heart being inside him.however we're missing the real point, in the end Roxas return as his own person is possible only if he really developed his own heart like Axel did.You say he developed his own and that Ven's one was inside him but dormant, instead I believe his heart is actually Ven's

 

 Actually these interviews completely dismantle your theory. Bc there's no need for theories when there are factual answers.This is reality. Roxas wields bc of Sora and Ven.This is fact as proven above. Nomura goes into why Roxas can wield due to his ties as Sora's nobody. He only dual wields bc of Ven's heart. In DDD they discuss Roxas being his own person and his own sense of self and how certain nobodies like Axel Namine and Roxas grew hearts. Just like how 'puppets' aka Xion can too. Go back and watch the DDD cutscenes in the TWTNW.

 

Because Ven's heart was dormant and does not belong to his body his body will try to replace the one it lost just like stated by Xemnas in DDD. Namine, Xion and Roxas can eventually wield their own separate keyblades when they become their own separate person.

 

Details of this are discussed by Xemnas and then by Ansem the Wise in the end of DDD. Watch the cutscenes lmao

Actually these interviews completely dismantle your theory. Bc there's no need for theories when there are factual answers.This is reality. Roxas wields bc of Sora and Ven.This is fact as proven above. Nomura goes into why Roxas can wield due to his ties as Sora's nobody. He only dual wields bc of Ven's heart. In DDD they discuss Roxas being his own person and his own sense of self and how certain nobodies like Axel Namine and Roxas grew hearts. Just like how 'puppets' aka Xion can too. Go back and watch the DDD cutscenes in the TWTNW. Because Ven's heart was dormant and does not belong to his body his body will try to replace the one it lost just like stated by Xemnas in DDD. Namine, Xion and Roxas can eventually wield their own separate keyblades when they become their own separate person. Details of this are discussed by Xemnas and then by Ansem the Wise in the end of DDD. Watch the cutscenes lmao

There aren't any solid proof that can tell us if Ven's heart was dormant or if Ven's heart became Roxas heart. Until we discover this we can't be 100% sure about Roxas destiny in KH3.And in DDD they just say nobodies can grow hearts, without specifically say if Roxas did grow one, they only say he expressed emotion

There aren't any solid proof that can tell us if Ven's heart was dormant or if Ven's heart became Roxas heart. Until we discover this we can't be 100% sure about Roxas destiny in KH3.And in DDD they just say nobodies can grow hearts, without specifically say if Roxas did grow one, they only say he expressed emotion

 

Solid proof he had no memories or thought process of Ven going on at all. Period. Nada. Solid proof he had to AWAKEN ( nomuras own words) the ability to even use Ven's keyblade much much later and only bc of the trauma of Xion's death. DDD did indeed even list Axel Namine Roxas and repeatedly referred to Xion ( as a puppet) as ones who grew hearts. Again watch the cutscenes with Xemnas talking about this and again watch the scene with Ansem the Wise in DDD. Look who they feature when talking about those lost comrades that are meant to return. Then come back.

 

I have provided plenty of proof and you have provided none. Absolutely none. Prove Ven's heart wasn't dormant and why. Prove anything you have said.

There aren't any solid proof that can tell us if Ven's heart was dormant or if Ven's heart became Roxas heart. Until we discover this we can't be 100% sure about Roxas destiny in KH3.And in DDD they just say nobodies can grow hearts, without specifically say if Roxas did grow one, they only say he expressed emotion

 

Dude DDD spelled out how Roxas formed his own heart and identity as his very own. The very reason why he can no longer be a proper vessel ( besides the fact he reunited with Sora) All the nort vessels needed to throw away their old identities as part of the process.

 

Also Roxas had none of Ven's memories. When Sora had Kairi inside him hiding, her heart wasn't dormant and Sora experienced her thoughts and memories. Proof right there. Seems to me you don't want to admit Roxas can and most likely will return.

There aren't any solid proof that can tell us if Ven's heart was dormant or if Ven's heart became Roxas heart. Until we discover this we can't be 100% sure about Roxas destiny in KH3.And in DDD they just say nobodies can grow hearts, without specifically say if Roxas did grow one, they only say he expressed emotion

 

First off this:

Solid proof he had no memories or thought process of Ven going on at all. Period. Nada. Solid proof he had to AWAKEN ( nomuras own words) the ability to even use Ven's keyblade much much later and only bc of the trauma of Xion's death. DDD did indeed even list Axel Namine Roxas and repeatedly referred to Xion ( as a puppet) as ones who grew hearts. Again watch the cutscenes with Xemnas talking about this and again watch the scene with Ansem the Wise in DDD. Look who they feature when talking about those lost comrades that are meant to return. Then come back.

 

I have provided plenty of proof and you have provided none. Absolutely none. Prove Ven's heart wasn't dormant and why. Prove anything you have said.

 

And in case you're still not convinced, though Flaming Lea has showed you plenty of proofs, just skip to minute 4:30.

 

 

Sora realises that you have to have a heart to feel emotions, and he mentions Axel, Roxas, Namine and Xion. Xigbar and Xemnas both admit that he's right. So Roxas has grown his own heart, without a single doubt.

Edited September 19, 201510 yr by Felixx

Solid proof he had no memories or thought process of Ven going on at all. Period. Nada. Solid proof he had to AWAKEN ( nomuras own words) the ability to even use Ven's keyblade much much later and only bc of the trauma of Xion's death. DDD did indeed even list Axel Namine Roxas and repeatedly referred to Xion ( as a puppet) as ones who grew hearts. Again watch the cutscenes with Xemnas talking about this and again watch the scene with Ansem the Wise in DDD. Look who they feature when talking about those lost comrades that are meant to return. Then come back. I have provided plenty of proof and you have provided none. Absolutely none. Prove Ven's heart wasn't dormant and why. Prove anything you have said.

Having said that hearts shape vessels,then why didn't Roxas appearence change after he started growing this 'true heart' you're talking about? It seems to me he never started growing his 'true heart' (because he already has Ven's heart i believe)You said he has no Ven's memory, I think this is because Roxas is still Sora's nobody and this implies that he should have Sora's memories (but he doesn't because Sora was a Heartless for a short time).You also said that in DDD there are many dialogues hinting his return, from my point of view this is okay since Roxas=Ven and Ven is returning thus Roxas is returning (because he's Ven).At this point I think it is pointless to continue this debate, one day we'll know who's rightdo you agree?

First off this:

 

And in case you're still not convinced, though Flaming Lea has showed you plenty of proves, just skip to minute 4:30.

 

 

Sora realises that you have to have a heart to feel emotions, and he mentions Axel, Roxas, Namine and Xion. Xigbar and Xemnas both admit that he's right. So Roxas has grown his own heart, without a single doubt.

 

 

Exactly. Let's also discuss that after Xion's death awakened Ven's keyblade it was only after that did we see Ven showing signs of beinh awakened like when he came to Sora's rescue by giving Sora his keyblade armour. Also in DDD we see Ven respond to Vanitas.

Having said that hearts shape vessels,then why didn't Roxas appearence change after he started growing this 'true heart' you're talking about? It seems to me he never started growing his 'true heart' (because he already has Ven's heart i believe)You said he has no Ven's memory, I think this is because Roxas is still Sora's nobody and this implies that he should have Sora's memories (but he doesn't because Sora was a Heartless for a short time).You also said that in DDD there are many dialogues hinting his return, from my point of view this is okay since Roxas=Ven and Ven is returning thus Roxas is returning (because he's Ven).At this point I think it is pointless to continue this debate, one day we'll know who's rightdo you agree?

 

One -bc it was Ven's heart that originally shaped his appearance and Nomura has been writing this as he goes. And because of this he has provided ways to bring back characters as he pleases along the way. This is obvious. Even so he would still look the same bc the heart he would grow would still be based off Ven's appearance since that's how everyone saw him as. It has been proven that Roxas formed his own separate self and identity and that if one grows his own heart he can return and be saved. Sora talks about saving Roxas with Roxas and how he'll find a way bc he IS his own person.

 

As for not having Ven's memories- in your own logic you are contradicting yourself. You cannot say that Roxas does not have Ven's memories or thoughts bc he's Sora's nobody and should have Sora's memories bc he's Sora's nobody while arguing Roxas is Ven. By that very logic you are using he should also have Ven's thoughts and memories because you are trying to say he is Ven. He doesn't. Why? Because his heart is dormant.Also do not ignore not only my points but other's points as well in this thread.

 

You said "You also said that in DDD there are many dialogues hinting his return, from my point of view this is okay since Roxas=Ven and Ven is returning thus Roxas is returning (because he's Ven)." 

This statement makes no sense and add nothing to your arguement whatsoever.

Exactly. Let's also discuss that after Xion's death awakened Ven's keyblade it was only after that did we see Ven showing signs of beinh awakened like when he came to Sora's rescue by giving Sora his keyblade armour. Also in DDD we see Ven respond to Vanitas.

 Indeed!

 

 

 

MasterLorX please prove and back up anything you said and since you cannot yes indeed you should end this debate lol