Just how China, Cuba, and other communist countries block social networking sites such as facebook, tumblr, and also youtube.

 

http://americancensorship.org/

 

 

 

 

Any thoughts? I don't even know if it's real or not. But if it happens, oh lord prepare for the entire country rioting...

 

Besides even if it does pass, then it means that they're breaking our bill of rights, AKA: FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

Wow this gets passed here in America. Well, then i will no longer consider U.S. as "the land of the free"

 

What's the point of even blocking the most popular places on the internet? The internet has proved to become a really important part of our lives, as well as businesses. Shutting down these three great things on the internet would mean shutting down important businesses. Especially for video game companies such as Nintendo. This would surely be a big mistake that the U.S. would make, I would have to agree that it would cause a very big riot to everyone all across America.

 

As for Bill S.978. It is said to fine people who make money off of their videos on the internet. So I am not truly worried about that bill now lol

wow... to be blunt that would "suck".

The internet is terrible for capitalism. Suddenly people can easily access many products for free, get entertainment for free that is arguably superior to what you'll find anywhere else.

It's a lot simpler for capitalism to function if people aren't presented with ideas, and that's what the internet does.

I like how you also seem to be afraid of Communism. The Cold War is over. Communism isn't evil. It's flawed, but so is capitalism. They are equally valid and defined by their leaders, not their ideals.

Finally, this has nothing to do with freedom of speech. Right now, it seems to only limit access to certain places, there's nothing to indicate that a person won't still be able to say whatever they want.

You may not want to acknowledge it but the internet has caused very large problems for the world at large. Finally, I doubt there would be much rioting, because I doubt the average person would notice.

This would be a problem as to the Untied States we have a right to have these things and this wouldn't be letting us do that and be free like the Untied States are. My school and teachers would protest against this because some of the things we need for school are found on videos on YouTube and other sites like that.

I can understand why the Americans would attempt such a thing, but seriously, there seems to be just as many cons to this as their are pros. And that's not even counting the amount of protests that would arise from this. It just seems stupid that America would attempt such a thing, especially since they're supposed to be the 'free state' and Hatok, modern historians describe the Cold War as a simple clash of Communism and Capitalism. More like one battle than an actual war. As long as they both are around, there is a fear that the two will clash again, but I'll admit that the Americans using an idea that the Communists also use is weird. They usually try to make sure the two are completely different.

I don't know. I'm a British Citizen, so it doesn't really affect me, unless the bills pass and thus it affects the whole internet, as America basically rules the internet's most visited sites. At any rate, I really think America needs to reconsider this proposal.

I can't wait till i'm president. Even more stuff for me to fix http://kh13.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/dry.png

The bill is real and that website is a combination of groups trying to stop it.

 

I'll leave this. I can link more websites if anyone wants it. Including several petitions.. although just going to the american censorship day website(which has a video as well as names of many of the opposing groups) should work...

 

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h3261/show

 

The biggest issue everyone is having is that it could block sites like twitter, tumblr, facebook.

 

And this website.

 

Any content that is copyrighted, if even a portion of the website is dedicated to infringement, can be taken down, and by "dedicated" I mean anything on a website that is copyrighted, regardless of "fair use". Or, basically, using something for non-commercial use.

 

The video clips on this website are considered copyrighted by Square Enix. So is the music you all use your videos, unless you sing it and play it yourself, and only if it's not a cover.

Edited November 16, 201113 yr by KairiSpaz

So it seems we are the only capitalist country beginning to turn communist..

Hopefully it's not real, but if it is, I think I'm just going to give up on the United States altogether. http://kh13.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/sleep.png I already gave up on Obama when he swore he'd get ALL the troops home by Christmas and then...changed his mind.

Hopefully it's not real, but if it is, I think I'm just going to give up on the United States altogether. http://kh13.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/sleep.png I already gave up on Obama when he swore he'd get ALL the troops home by Christmas and then...changed his mind.

 

He didn't change his mind, he just doesn't have the power???? Yeah he's the President but just because he says to do something doesn't mean it'll happen

 

Anyways this isn't going to go through, it violates too many rights for it to go through.

Hopefully it's not real, but if it is, I think I'm just going to give up on the United States altogether. http://kh13.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/sleep.png I already gave up on Obama when he swore he'd get ALL the troops home by Christmas and then...changed his mind.

 

I myself don't really support Obama much but what does that have to do with anything? Obama isn't a part of congress. He can influence Congress' decisions but he himself doesn't vote on the bills or not. In fact, he can't even sponsor one himself. But honestly I really don't think this bill will pass.

 

 

 

 

Ehh.. the white house's petitions page has one in relation to this going if anyone is wanting to sign it. :U :

https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/stop-e-parasite-act/SWBYXX55

Yeah he's the President but just because he says to do something doesn't mean it'll happen

 

Meh, I guess I haven't yet learned not to trust politicians when they make promises.

 

I myself don't really support Obama much but what does that have to do with anything?

Honestly, when I was talking about him, it was just as a side note, to vent. It wasn't actually supposed to be related to the censorship issue itself. *shrugs*

People are still blaming Obama for everything? Yeesh.

Also, how is this at all Communism related? There is nothing that says that censorship is communist.

It worries me greatly how little people know about things. How little they are willing to know. How difficult it is for people to accept things, or to view things on a broad scale. Why do people have such a hard time seeing more than one perspective?

I'm...Kinda...Happy their blocking facebook and social networking.

I'm...Kinda...Happy their blocking facebook and social networking.

 

You do realize that if it does pass then kh13 will be blocked from the United States right? Even if it's made by Australians.

The internet is terrible for capitalism. Suddenly people can easily access many products for free, get entertainment for free that is arguably superior to what you'll find anywhere else.

 

Actually, the creation of the internet has made capitalism easier than ever, probably the biggest leap since the industrial revolution. While there are plenty of free things, it makes purchasing things so easy. Before the internet, purchasing things from far away areas was a pain in the ass, now with the push of a button you can buy an object in California and have it sitting in your New York apartment the next day. And many of the free things have bonuses that you must pay for. Games like Battlefield Heroes generate thousands of dollars from people spending money on virtual. While some companies are losing money from the illegal distribution of copyrighted materials, recent crackdowns on piracy websites are making that a thing of the past. Some individuals are making livings just off of creating youtube videos and having google ads placed on them. The market has never been more free!

 

 

 

It's a lot simpler for capitalism to function if people aren't presented with ideas, and that's what the internet does.

I like how you also seem to be afraid of Communism. The Cold War is over. Communism isn't evil. It's flawed, but so is capitalism. They are equally valid and defined by their leaders, not their ideals.

While I wouldn't go as far as calling Communism evil. It goes against human nature. People like to have their own possessions, people like to do things with the motive of getting something in return. Give a small child a cookie, then tell the child he has to share that cookie with all the other children in the classroom. The child will most likely be reluctant and possibly even refuse to do so. Communism is also simply unfair. While it may seem unfair that a person lives in luxury while someone lives in a box, it's even more unfair that everyone lives in a box. No matter how hard you work, those that don't work as hard are going to benefit from your blood sweat and tears.

 

Finally, this has nothing to do with freedom of speech. Right now, it seems to only limit access to certain places, there's nothing to indicate that a person won't still be able to say whatever they want.

You may not want to acknowledge it but the internet has caused very large problems for the world at large. Finally, I doubt there would be much rioting, because I doubt the average person would notice.

 

It's the first step. Take writing a paper for instance. Thinking up everything is hard but once you know what you are doing, it's a snap. That's what will happen if this law is passed. It will set an example for future internet laws. If those are passed the changes will be a bit more noticeable. Restrictions will keep building up and building up. Before you know it, the internet becomes a very different place.

 

Also, how is this at all Communism related? There is nothing that says that censorship is communist.

Communist countries tend to regulate freedom of speech. For example in North Korea, a movie cannot be shown unless it has been watched and approved by Kim Jong Il. Or how China has it's own version of Google that filters out what the government doesn't want people to look up.

 

Communism is brought into the equation because heavy censorship is a trademark of communist nations. Doesn't mean Communist have to censor things but that is what they do.

This censorship better not pass or I'll go PSYCHOPATH (>8D) and riot like there no firetrucking tomorrow! http://kh13.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/smiley-mad.png

Actually, the creation of the internet has made capitalism easier than ever, probably the biggest leap since the industrial revolution. While there are plenty of free things, it makes purchasing things so easy. Before the internet, purchasing things from far away areas was a pain in the ass, now with the push of a button you can buy an object in California and have it sitting in your New York apartment the next day. And many of the free things have bonuses that you must pay for. Games like Battlefield Heroes generate thousands of dollars from people spending money on virtual. While some companies are losing money from the illegal distribution of copyrighted materials, recent crackdowns on piracy websites are making that a thing of the past. Some individuals are making livings just off of creating youtube videos and having google ads placed on them. The market has never been more free!

The internet has created new revenue streams, yes, but they are also causing people to question the value of their dollar. When it costs a person 99 cents to get a game with hundreds of levels, they wonder why they bother to buy entertainment that costs more and gives them less. And crack downs can't eliminate piracy. That's like saying cracking down on ANY crime will eliminate it. I doubt we'll be saying farewell to the Pirate Bay any time soon. Unless the government censored the internet.

 

While I wouldn't go as far as calling Communism evil. It goes against human nature. People like to have their own possessions, people like to do things with the motive of getting something in return. Give a small child a cookie, then tell the child he has to share that cookie with all the other children in the classroom. The child will most likely be reluctant and possibly even refuse to do so. Communism is also simply unfair. While it may seem unfair that a person lives in luxury while someone lives in a box, it's even more unfair that everyone lives in a box. No matter how hard you work, those that don't work as hard are going to benefit from your blood sweat and tears.

Communism is idealistic, but you yourself are being idealistic by believing that capitalism spreads itself to those who work hard. Hard work does not guarantee you will get far. Success comes to people who were already successful, or have connections. Capitalism as it currently stands, heavily dominated by business, effectively staunches capitalism ideals by essentially using an army of dream seekers to further increase their profits. While it wouldn't be good to have everybody live in a box, having everybody live in their own moderate household would not be. That's a fundamental flaw with what you're saying. Why is it that capitalism has rich and poor, but communism only has poor? And believe it or not, a person can be raised to believe sharing is good and that you should work for works sake. I myself have a hard time wrapping my head around that, and I am the one professing this idea.

 

It's the first step. Take writing a paper for instance. Thinking up everything is hard but once you know what you are doing, it's a snap. That's what will happen if this law is passed. It will set an example for future internet laws. If those are passed the changes will be a bit more noticeable. Restrictions will keep building up and building up. Before you know it, the internet becomes a very different place.

This is the same idea that communism, if left unchecked, would spread like a disease. We have no proof or precedent to say that this will happen, because logically, wouldn't this exact thing have happened to society as a whole? And who's to say that censorship will be a bad thing? I know there are certainly thing I don't want MY kids exposed to. Look how the internet has affected the people on this very site.

 

Communist countries tend to regulate freedom of speech. For example in North Korea, a movie cannot be shown unless it has been watched and approved by Kim Jong Il. Or how China has it's own version of Google that filters out what the government doesn't want people to look up.

It's not a rule of communism. It's something that a power hungry ruler uses to ensure nobody knows alternatives to their ideas. Believe it or not, the same thing happens in North America, and every other part of the world.

 

Communism is brought into the equation because heavy censorship is a trademark of communist nations. Doesn't mean Communist have to censor things but that is what they do.

That's like saying red is a trademark of communism, and the inclusion of red on the American flag is too communist. In fact: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HitlerAteSugar

 

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The internet has created new revenue streams, yes, but they are also causing people to question the value of their dollar. When it costs a person 99 cents to get a game with hundreds of levels, they wonder why they bother to buy entertainment that costs more and gives them less. And crack downs can't eliminate piracy. That's like saying cracking down on ANY crime will eliminate it. I doubt we'll be saying farewell to the Pirate Bay any time soon. Unless the government censored the internet.

You are correct in a sense, but people questioning the value of their money is actually going to help the economy. In order to stay in business, companies are going to be forced to try and convince people that one game for 40 dollars is superior to 100 games for the same price. How will they do this? By increasing the quality of their products. Thus products are getting better and better, this competition is what will help everyone int he long run. I never said piracy would be completely eliminated, I just said that they would be a thing of the past, meaning that the profits lost from piracy would be so insignificant companies would hardly pay attention. Yes, it will never be completely eliminated, but it can be decreased.

 

Communism is idealistic, but you yourself are being idealistic by believing that capitalism spreads itself to those who work hard. Hard work does not guarantee you will get far. Success comes to people who were already successful, or have connections. Capitalism as it currently stands, heavily dominated by business, effectively staunches capitalism ideals by essentially using an army of dream seekers to further increase their profits. While it wouldn't be good to have everybody live in a box, having everybody live in their own moderate household would not be. That's a fundamental flaw with what you're saying. Why is it that capitalism has rich and poor, but communism only has poor? And believe it or not, a person can be raised to believe sharing is good and that you should work for works sake. I myself have a hard time wrapping my head around that, and I am the one professing this idea.

While certain people have advantages in capitalism that may make it seem unfair it is balanced out by the fact that there is a chance you can become successful rather than being stuck in the same place no matter how hard you try. Equal opportunity is what makes capitalism perfectly fair. An example of this can be found in Bill Gates, a man working from his garage became the richest man in the world. It is very hard for a country to have everyone on the same economic level. The only way the true equality that communism promises can be achieved is if everyone is brought down to the lowest level. It's easy to get everyone to be poor, it's a lot harder for everyone to live in even a decent household. You may or not be familiar with the story Harrison Bergeron. Basically it's satirizing the fact that if everyone was truly equal in status, the country would basically be shithole. Anyone can be raised to believe anything, the point is that communism goes against what we are all born and programmed to do. And that is to own our own possessions as well as try and improve our lives. With Communism both of those things don't happen.

 

Anywho here is the link to the story I mentioned earlier. http://www.tnellen.com/cybereng/harrison.html keep in mind that it is a satire and as a result, heavily exaggerated but the basic points are still there.

 

This is the same idea that communism, if left unchecked, would spread like a disease. We have no proof or precedent to say that this will happen, because logically, wouldn't this exact thing have happened to society as a whole? And who's to say that censorship will be a bad thing? I know there are certainly thing I don't want MY kids exposed to. Look how the internet has affected the people on this very site.

You do have a point, there is nothing to suggest that what I described will happen, of course there is nothing to suggest that it wouldn't and as a result the censorship plan should still be prevented. As for your children. Most browsers have the ability to restrict access to certain websites, even by the keyword. It should be up to the parents to decide what their children can and cannot see, not some person sitting at a desk 500 miles away who has no idea what the circumstances are for that particular household.

 

It's not a rule of communism. It's something that a power hungry ruler uses to ensure nobody knows alternatives to their ideas. Believe it or not, the same thing happens in North America, and every other part of the world.

What I am saying is that communist countries are more susceptible to that sort of thing. Why? The way their governments are designed, while don't encourage censorship, certainly allow it to happen. Communist governments have systems that allow heavy censorship to occur. While censorship does exist in more Democratic societies it cannot reach the height that it does elsewhere, the layout of the government forbids it and because the people have a say in what happens, they generally may not be for it.

 

That's like saying red is a trademark of communism, and the inclusion of red on the American flag is too communist.

Well Red is a trademark of Communism, they don't call it Red Square because they like how it sounds, but I digress. I did directly state that communist nations don't necessarily have to censor information but they do for reasons you and I already know and have already stated.

I seriously doubt such a law will pass since it goes against the first amendment. I'm not worried.

Here we go again with the long posts *rolls eyes*. Anyway, I'm sure this is not true. If it is true than I'm sure a Civil War 2 would start in America.

I live In Europe, so not worried.

But that sucks, a lot of people use the Internet on the U.S.A, mostly Facebook.

The only thing I have to say is that if the government bans the internet, I will personally kill them all.

I doubt it'll pass. I think both Democrats and Republicans would be against it, and none of the House members or Senators would want to get heat for their vote. If it does... I'll get a Japanese computer with a Japanese IP card. Not sure it'll work (I haven't looked it up before), but I've always wanted a Japanese computer x3

I just found out about this today and i really hope it dont pass because i like making amvs/gmvs xC