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Basically, things that require time to make.

On the other side of the spectrum, you CAN'T blame the inclusion of Time Travel on it being rushed.

Believe it or not, pre-thought and effort are required and utilized when introducing a new element to the plot of an ongoing franchise

Time Travel was clearly intended for some time, and they clearly intend to make use of it in the future.

The EXECUTION of the plot may have been rushed, but the actual plot points couldn't have been

But Time Travel helped make it an incoherent story. The thing is, they just introduced it so suddenly. Where were the hints before now? Why are we getting most of our explanations from interviews?

Execution of the plot.

 

Excellent word choice. >:}

Interesting. This seems like a response to my post.

dem is some good points

InB4 Flaming Lea (considering what she said about time travel in the last thread). To FL:

 

I agree with the time travel thing though.

Edited November 8, 201212 yr by VisitJoan

But Time Travel helped make it an incoherent story. The thing is, they just introduced it so suddenly. Where were the hints before now? Why are we getting most of our explanations from interviews?

 

Ever since Birth By Sleep's US version. Actually, it was thought of much before that, but MF was our first hint.

But Time Travel helped make it an incoherent story. The thing is, they just introduced it so suddenly. Where were the hints before now? Why are we getting most of our explanations from interviews?

 

Tiem travel was in KH2. There's even some implicit stuff about DDD's version of Time Travel in the secret ending

Besides that, the Mysterious Figure is the most obvious clue

 

Interesting. This seems like a response to my post.

 

No offense, but I actually have no idea who you are

I usually make ideas for topics to post here about two weeks in advance

Execution of the plot.

 

Excellent word choice. >:}

 

Agreed

I hate Time Travel and nothing will make me ever like it ..It's just my personal opinion .I have yet to like it in any game where this is included .

Edited November 8, 201212 yr by Flaming Lea

Tiem travel was in KH2. There's even some implicit stuff about DDD's version of Time Travel in the secret ending

Besides that, the Mysterious Figure is the most obvious clue

 

Wait, explain how some tiny clues in KH2's secret ending were hints of Time Travel? I really want to know.

Wait, explain how some tiny clues in KH2's secret ending were hints of Time Travel? I really want to know.

 

Xemnas' armour/dragon thing, as well as Sora, Riku and Mickey's keyblades making an appearance I'm pretty sure that some of the quotes that flash up suggest it as well, but I can't remember anything specific

 

I hate Time Travel and nothing will make me ever like it ..It's just my personal opinion .I have yet to like it in any game where this is included .

 

Chrono Trigger

Radiant Historia

PLAY THEM

SOOO GOOOOD

whats wrong with the soundtrack '-'

Ever since Birth By Sleep's US version. Actually, it was thought of much before that, but MF was our first hint.

 

Tiem travel was in KH2. There's even some implicit stuff about DDD's version of Time Travel in the secret ending

Besides that, the Mysterious Figure is the most obvious clue

 

No offense, but I actually have no idea who you are

I usually make ideas for topics to post here about two weeks in advance

 

So mostly KH Birth by Sleep? But MF wasn't even properly explained until, wait for it, INTERVIEWS.

So mostly KH Birth by Sleep? But MF wasn't even properly explained until, wait for it, INTERVIEWS.

 

he clearly used time travel for his attacks

InB4 Flaming Lea (considering what she said about time travel in the last thread). To FL:

 

I agree with the time travel thing though.

 

Except i never said DDD being rushed was why there is Time Travel ..I just think its crappy to use period .I expected better from Nomura and was disappointed ..I didnt even like it in Timeless River

 

Xemnas' armour/dragon thing, as well as Sora, Riku and Mickey's keyblades making an appearance I'm pretty sure that some of the quotes that flash up suggest it as well, but I can't remember anything specific

 

Chrono Trigger

Radiant Historia

PLAY THEM

SOOO GOOOOD

 

I will have to check them out then let you know

he clearly used time travel for his attacks

 

Well whoop de do. A lot of enemies use stopping time in attacks.

Stop is even a magic.

Edited November 8, 201212 yr by Number XV

Well whoop de do. A lot of enemies use stopping time in attacks.

Stop is even a magic.

 

it's different

for one thing, he has an hourglass motif

it's different

for one thing, he has an hourglass motif

 

Whoop the firetrucking do.

So then let's introduce a CONFUSING PLOT POINT THE NEXT GAME WITH TWO (IF) BARELY-COUNTING-AS HINTS.

It's just, to me, they ruined a part of the fun. How has it become some overarching grand scheme?

MF was just confusing. He wasn't a great hint.

Whoop the firetrucking do.

So then let's introduce a CONFUSING PLOT POINT THE NEXT GAME WITH TWO (IF) BARELY-COUNTING-AS HINTS.

It's just, to me, they ruined a part of the fun. How has it become some overarching grand scheme?

MF was just confusing. He wasn't a great hint.

 

whooping doesn't really change the point.

it's clear that time travel was thought of in advance

whooping doesn't really change the point.

it's clear that time travel was thought of in advance

 

Maybe barely thought of, if at all.. It seemed like in the interviews, Nomura was finally realizing what he was getting in to.

But Time Travel helped make it an incoherent story. The thing is, they just introduced it so suddenly. Where were the hints before now? Why are we getting most of our explanations from interviews?

 

They always introduce plot points suddennly and without hints (Oh, Xehanort is really an old man possessing another keyblade wielder. Also there are other keyblade wielders. And Xehanort is a keyblade wielder. Also the X-blade. Wat. And Aqua's boobs. No one was prepared for that.). And most of our information has always been from interviews. Keep in mind that we are viewing the game from the point of view of the heroes, who are themselves very confused and sort of just going through only half knowing what they are doing. It's been pretty apparent for a while now that Xehanort has had a scary amount of control over the events going on in the Kingdom Hearts universe, and now we partially know why.

 

Having said that, the time travel explanations were a little shaky and the rules slightly unclear...I'm not sure Square knows how to properly handle time travel...but in the long run, it does sort of make sense. Sort of. There's the main point of how he was able to bring his different selves forward in time and why they wouldn't have to go back like YX would; and also, whether or not this is possible outside of the dream world, or if the dream world was just a convenient way for them to do it...

 

And also, yeah, Myterious Figure should have been a pretty big hint that the next main game would probably include time travel. I even heard rumors around BBS time that Mickey was supposed to be time traveling... (back when we thought unversed were "unbirths")

They always introduce plot points suddennly and without hints (Oh, Xehanort is really an old man possessing another keyblade wielder. Also there are other keyblade wielders. And Xehanort is a keyblade wielder. Also the X-blade. Wat. And Aqua's boobs. No one was prepared for that.). And most of our information has always been from interviews. Keep in mind that we are viewing the game from the point of view of the heroes, who are themselves very confused and sort of just going through only half knowing what they are doing. It's been pretty apparent for a while now that Xehanort has had a scary amount of control over the events going on in the Kingdom Hearts universe, and now we partially know why.

 

Having said that, the time travel explanations were a little shaky and the rules slightly unclear...I'm not sure Square knows how to properly handle time travel...but in the long run, it does sort of make sense. Sort of. There's the main point of how he was able to bring his different selves forward in time and why they wouldn't have to go back like YX would; and also, whether or not this is possible outside of the dream world, or if the dream world was just a convenient way for them to do it...

 

And also, yeah, Myterious Figure should have been a pretty big hint that the next main game would probably include time travel. I even heard rumors around BBS time that Mickey was supposed to be time traveling... (back when we thought unversed were "unbirths")

 

How though? So for the final battle are they going into the dream world to fight the 'norts or are they going to break 30 more rules. Seriously, Lea coming back was like the near-final straw.

Time travel was introduced in KH1.

..I just think its crappy to use period.

 

That's what I was talking about. Anyway, Its OK to not like time travel.

Time travel was introduced in KH1.

 

*gasp* Omg, you're right. owO