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Ugh, Birth by Sleep is the worst of them all

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Seriously, this game is the worst. The worlds are boring and empty, the battle system is overly complicated, and the characters are almost not attractive at all. The only reason I'm trudging through this is for the plot, but it's really hard to keep playing.

 

This Terra dude, is it just me or is this a flat out Riku clone? It's not just a similarity either, he's EXACTLY the same. He's the moody guy of the three, the most mature one, and the one who lets himself be controlled by darkness, all the while stating he doesn't fear the darkness over and over again. He also seems to team up with Disney villains much like Riku. The only difference is Riku is a well thought out, interesting character, while this guy seems like a cheap impersonation.

 

Ventus... What the hell can I say, he's Roxas. Except with a different name and batshit crazy clothes that look like they were sewed together from different pieces. He's the exact same as Roxas, in personality and in looks (except clothes). Also the Sora of the group.

 

Aqua is the Kaira of the group, except she's a bit more battle-ready. Flat, boring character who doesn't have anything interesting going for her at all.

 

I also think the three storylines thing was a really bad idea. I gotta wait two playthroughs to see the conclusion to each world. Not only that, I kinda want to shoot myself when thinking of having to play through this game two more times.

 

There are some interesting things in this game, like Vanitas, Xehanort, and Braig, but there's not ENOUGH. Deep Space, where the hell is Xehanort? Where is Vanitas? Why are there only the stupid Disney characters?

 

What the hell is Disney Town? Everywhere I go there's some kind of minigame. Do I have to complete this shit to progress in the game? God, just let me fight Vanitas, or show some background history on the other future Organization members. I don't give a crap about Experiment 626 or whatever.

 

Oh, and one more thing. Olympus Colliseum. PLOT TWIST! You got used by Hades! Didn't see that one coming! Seriously, just kill me...

 

I could go on, but for now I'm done ranting.

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    Wow, I think this is the first time I've heard that Birth by Sleep isn't as good as the others.  It's very different in comparison to the rest of the Kingdom Hearts series, which, if you're very fond

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Oh so I gotta keep three savegames in order to get the most out of each world. That's not inconvenient at all!

 

 

I never said anything about Coded, I never played Coded, so I can't say anything about it. I did play 358/2 Days and I liked the story, characters, and battle system more then this game's.

 

It's barely a huge inconvinence, the 30 seconds it takes to open another save file will barely contribute to much in anyones life unless they need some serious improvement in the bedroom

Birth by Sleep is indeed the worst game in the franchise, and I agree with pretty much everything the original post says, but since I vowed to only focus on the positives of the Kingdom Hearts franchise this month, I can't comment any further.

 

Watch this thread in another month.

Uh, haters gonna hate. I don't think we can expect to change your opinion like that, it's what you think.

 

But you should play the game and see its point in the plot before jumping to the conclusion it's the worst. Seriously, give it a chance. The characters are all meant to be linked with each other plot-wise. Their similarities are all because of that.

 

I don't find Ventus to be a copy of Roxas or Sora, I think he is a different character with a different background, who because of said connections happens to share personality traits with both Sora and Roxas, and looks like Roxas.

 

Terra, like has been mentioned above, is similar to Riku. He saw that similarity himself. Their personality, their obstacles, their paths, their mistakes, it's all similar, yes. But Terra is a different person. He has his own story, and his own choices to make that will lead him to his eventual fate. 

 

Aqua, the only similarity I see between her and Kairi is Light. Unlike Aqua, Kairi is mostly helpless, barely capable of defending herself in almost every occasion. Aqua is a strong female and a warrior, who is always there to protect her friends. She is a Keyblade Master and a devoted friend.

 

I mean it when I say: Give this game a chance.

Seriously, this game is the worst. The worlds are boring and empty, the battle system is overly complicated, and the characters are almost not attractive at all. The only reason I'm trudging through this is for the plot, but it's really hard to keep playing.This Terra dude, is it just me or is this a flat out Riku clone? It's not just a similarity either, he's EXACTLY the same. He's the moody guy of the three, the most mature one, and the one who lets himself be controlled by darkness, all the while stating he doesn't fear the darkness over and over again. He also seems to team up with Disney villains much like Riku. The only difference is Riku is a well thought out, interesting character, while this guy seems like a cheap impersonation.Ventus... What the hell can I say, he's Roxas. Except with a different name and batshit crazy clothes that look like they were sewed together from different pieces. He's the exact same as Roxas, in personality and in looks (except clothes). Also the Sora of the group.Aqua is the Kaira of the group, except she's a bit more battle-ready. Flat, boring character who doesn't have anything interesting going for her at all.Have you played recoded? I also think the three storylines thing was a really bad idea. I gotta wait two playthroughs to see the conclusion to each world. Not only that, I kinda want to shoot myself when thinking of having to play through this game two more times.There are some interesting things in this game, like Vanitas, Xehanort, and Braig, but there's not ENOUGH. Deep Space, where the hell is Xehanort? Where is Vanitas? Why are there only the stupid Disney characters?What the hell is Disney Town? Everywhere I go there's some kind of minigame. Do I have to complete this shit to progress in the game? God, just let me fight Vanitas, or show some background history on the other future Organization members. I don't give a crap about Experiment 626 or whatever.Oh, and one more thing. Olympus Colliseum. PLOT TWIST! You got used by Hades! Didn't see that one coming! Seriously, just kill me...I could go on, but for now I'm done ranting.

Have you played recoded? Now thats a great example of a horrible kh game

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Seriously, this game is the worst. The worlds are boring and empty, the battle system is overly complicated, and the characters are almost not attractive at all. The only reason I'm trudging through this is for the plot, but it's really hard to keep playing.

 

This Terra dude, is it just me or is this a flat out Riku clone? It's not just a similarity either, he's EXACTLY the same. He's the moody guy of the three, the most mature one, and the one who lets himself be controlled by darkness, all the while stating he doesn't fear the darkness over and over again. He also seems to team up with Disney villains much like Riku. The only difference is Riku is a well thought out, interesting character, while this guy seems like a cheap impersonation.

 

Ventus... What the hell can I say, he's Roxas. Except with a different name and batshit crazy clothes that look like they were sewed together from different pieces. He's the exact same as Roxas, in personality and in looks (except clothes). Also the Sora of the group.

 

Aqua is the Kaira of the group, except she's a bit more battle-ready. Flat, boring character who doesn't have anything interesting going for her at all.

 

I also think the three storylines thing was a really bad idea. I gotta wait two playthroughs to see the conclusion to each world. Not only that, I kinda want to shoot myself when thinking of having to play through this game two more times.

 

There are some interesting things in this game, like Vanitas, Xehanort, and Braig, but there's not ENOUGH. Deep Space, where the hell is Xehanort? Where is Vanitas? Why are there only the stupid Disney characters?

 

What the hell is Disney Town? Everywhere I go there's some kind of minigame. Do I have to complete this shit to progress in the game? God, just let me fight Vanitas, or show some background history on the other future Organization members. I don't give a crap about Experiment 626 or whatever.

 

Oh, and one more thing. Olympus Colliseum. PLOT TWIST! You got used by Hades! Didn't see that one coming! Seriously, just kill me...

 

I could go on, but for now I'm done ranting.

Hey justRob!!

You can have your opinon I apologize. it just hurts a little, and shocking.

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Well, who knows. Maybe I'll warm up to the game when I get a little further. I do consider myself a Kingdom Hearts fan, so I'll just keep playing.

Of all the things I could say to this thread..... I just..... ain't gonna touch this with a barge pole..... so......

 

Have you played recoded? Now thats a great example of a horrible kh game

 

this ^

Actually, Terra, Aqua, and Ventus ARE connected, so I think this is a bit of foreshadowing here.  To explain this, however, I'll have to offer a fair amount of spoilers.

 

 

 

Ventus's heart goes into Sora, which I *believe* is how Sora wields a Keyblade.  Terra makes Riku his successor when he meets him on Destiny Islands when Riku's a little kid, and Aqua meets Kairi in Radiant Garden.  Unversed corner them from every direction and, out of fear, Kairi grasps on to Aqua's Keyblade, which ultimately made Kairi Aqua's successor.

 

 

 

So really, it's not so much that Terra, Aqua, and Ven copied Sora, Riku, and Kairi, but actually the other way around, since the BbS trio were Keyblade wielders first.  Does that make sense?

 

 

Sora wields a keyblade on his own and dual wields because of Ven. Nomura himself stated Sora was always destined to wield and gets nothing from Ven except for the second keyblade... This is why Sora still wields after becoming a walking heart in the end of Kh1 when Roxas  was formed and had Ven's heart inside him . He wielded that way all the way till they were re-merged in KH2.

Sora wields a keyblade on his own and dual wields because of Ven. Nomura himself stated Sora was always destined to wield and gets nothing from Ven except for the second keyblade... This is why Sora still wields after becoming a walking heart in the end of Kh1 when Roxas  was formed and had Ven's heart inside him . He wielded that way all the way till they were re-merged in KH2.

 

I pity you for how many times you've had to tell people this, pretty much word for word..... myself, admittedly, included!

I pity you for how many times you've had to tell people this, pretty much word for word..... myself, admittedly, included!

 

 

LOL My job is never done my friend xD

LOL My job is never done my friend xD

 

You have saved many KH fans from ignorance. Thank you. I was the idiot who said Lingering Will was Terra's soul.

You have saved many KH fans from ignorance. Thank you. I was the idiot who said Lingering Will was Terra's soul.

 

 

Don't call yourself an idiot. Honestly, it's a common misconception among the fanbase. xD and you are welcome !

BbS, the worst in the series? Lololol no

 

If you ask me, Days is the worst one imo

Guys, everyone is allowed to their opinion. 

Hell I like one of the most hated games in the series. 

I am the unpopular opinion sanctum

But yeah, JostRob if dislike it that's fine. Others may not find it bad though. (majority of others find it one of the best)

I actually think some of the things you ranted about are what people like about the game. xD

But yeah, thank you for sharing your opinion on here. That actually takes guts considering what game you picked. oWO 

I applaud you for that good sir.

Thing with opinions is that you're not required to agree with all of them.  Not everyone likes BBS but there are a great many people like me who do, so why not interact with them instead?

this argument is still going on?? 

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Alright, I just finished Terra's story.

 

I have to say it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. The ending was actually pretty good (even if I don't really understand what the hell happened).

 

Just one question, am I supposed to start a new game if I want to play Ventus and Aqua? I actually thought the game would just let you select a different character after the ending, instead of having to create a new save. If I had known this, I would have made three savegames from the start and did each world on each character completely as I went along.

Alright, I just finished Terra's story.

 

I have to say it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. The ending was actually pretty good (even if I don't really understand what the hell happened).

 

Just one question, am I supposed to start a new game if I want to play Ventus and Aqua? I actually thought the game would just let you select a different character after the ending, instead of having to create a new save. If I had known this, I would have made three savegames from the start and did each world on each character completely as I went along.

You do a new game for each character.

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Dear God...

Dear God...

it's not that bad owo

Dear God...

It's not that bad. xD Each game doesn't even take up too much space. 

I never thought I'd see the day when a fellow Rob would dislike BBS. Disappoint. :

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