it can't be sora because Nomura said he will be the main protagonist for the series, so nothing bad will happen to him and he won't die in kh3, it can't be kairi because she's a princess and immune to darkness as well as aqua. so it can be those 3, but i think its going to be Ven/Van. if sora tries to bring ven back and wake him up vanitas will come back as well because ven is still a half person and the other half is darkness and the only reson van was killed ven baicly killed himself. so when they bring back ven, van will be back to and van can't be killed by anyone other than ven and they will have to fight and then boom X-blade, 13th darkness, and they will have yellow eyes.

I do not think that Aqua is immune to darkness.

Vanitas and Ventus are generally the most commonly thought to be eligible as the thirteenth darkness. The way that Ventus could be turned into a darkness is simple, and is a part of why Xemnas wanted his body to be found at Castle Oblivion. All that would need to happen would be for Aqua to access Ventus' body, and then for Master Xehanort to immediately enter the scene and place a fragment of his heart in Ventus' body, immediately making Ventus a vessel, due to the fact that his heart currently resides in Sora.

As for Vanitas, he was brought to the present without a physical form by Young Xehanort in Kingdom Hearts DDD, but whether or not he returned to his place in time with Young Xehanort, Ansem, Seeker of Darkness and Xemnas has not been confirmed. He could easily become one of Master Xehanort's vessels.

Edited October 8, 201312 yr by Varnish

I do not think that Aqua is immune to darkness.Vanitas and Ventus are generally the most commonly thought to be eligible as the thirteenth darkness. The way that Ventus could be turned into a darkness is simple, and is a part of why Xemnas wanted his body to be found at Castle Oblivion. All that would need to happen would be for Aqua to access Ventus' body, and then for Master Xehanort to immediately enter the scene and place a fragment of his heart in Ventus' body, immediately making Ventus a vessel, due to the fact that his heart currently resides in Sora.As for Vanitas, he was brought to the present without a physical form by Young Xehanort in Kingdom Hearts DDD, but whether or not he returned to his place in time with Young Xehanort, Ansem, Seeker of Darkness and Xemnas has not been confirmed. He could easily become one of Master Xehanort's vessels.

thats a really good theory too, it seems ventus is a prime candidate to be the 13th. but aqua is immune to darkness to a point, because she's in the relem of darkness now and she hasn't been cruped by it yet due to her own strong light(she probably has the strongest out of everybody), being a keyblade master, and her friends light/wayfinder. if it was anybody else they would have been cruped by the darkness ansem the wise was cruped by the darkness half the time aqua was there and he is back there now probably will be cruped by it again, and aqua has been there for more than 10 years so i'm pretty sure staying in the relem of darkness for that long and not be cruped by it means your immune to darkness, like mickey and riku kind of.

I think they all will be Xehanort forms from other eras except Isa, Braig and Vanitas.

Lol I like how u called Vanitas as Van

it can't be sora because Nomura said he will be the main protagonist for the series, so nothing bad will happen to him and he won't die in kh3, it can't be kairi because she's a princess and immune to darkness as well as aqua. so it can be those 3, but i think its going to be Ven/Van. if sora tries to bring ven back and wake him up vanitas will come back as well because ven is still a half person and the other half is darkness and the only reson van was killed ven baicly killed himself. so when they bring back ven, van will be back to and van can't be killed by anyone other than ven and they will have to fight and then boom X-blade, 13th darkness, and they will have yellow eyes.

Just because he's the 13th Darkness doesn't mean he'll join Organization XIII

 

Also,Xehanort clearly stated that Sora is indeed the 13th Darkness....otherwise why would the Organization go out of it's way to sabotage the Mastery test and lure Sora to TWTNW????

 

It could mean that Sora can now use some Dark powers that Riku was able to use.....that would cool especially in Gameplay

 

If something would happen to Sora there is always the good ol Deus ex Machina plot element to save the day

Edited October 8, 201312 yr by Metal Snake

Just because he's the 13th Darkness doesn't mean he'll join Organization XIIIAlso,Xehanort clearly stated that Sora is indeed the 13th Darkness....otherwise why would the Organization go out of it's way to sabotage the Mastery test and lure Sora to TWTNW????It could mean that Sora can now use some Dark powers that Riku was able to use.....that would cool especially in GameplayIf something would happen to Sora there is always the good ol Deus ex Machina plot element to save the day

the main reson they went for sora is for the X-blade, ven's heart sleeps within sora so if they were to succeed they would have the X-blade thats why because it would have been riku but he's immuned to darkness now and they reliesed that sora has ven's heart. a Xehanort said you can't start a war for KH without the X-blade. also, if someone is the 13th the the darkness eat them and they will do what ever Xehanort says like terra.

I think replica Riku or a Riku from the past will be one of the 13 

the main reson they went for sora is for the X-blade, ven's heart sleeps within sora so if they were to succeed they would have the X-blade thats why because it would have been riku but he's immuned to darkness now and they reliesed that sora has ven's heart. a Xehanort said you can't start a war for KH without the X-blade. also, if someone is the 13th the the darkness eat them and they will do what ever Xehanort says like terra.

Dude they don't need Ven's heart specifically to form the X-Blade

 

Xehanort said it himself that splitting Ven's heart to forge the X-blade was just an experiment

 

The real way according to Xehanort is to let the 7 Lights and 13 Darkness clash through a Keyblade War

Dude they don't need Ven's heart specifically to form the X-Blade

 

Xehanort said it himself that splitting Ven's heart to forge the X-blade was just an experiment

 

The real way according to Xehanort is to let the 7 Lights and 13 Darkness clash through a Keyblade War

Honestly I think Nomura is just going to do a plot twist.

me! i called dibs along time ago

So far there is - Xehanort, Braig, Isa, Xemnas, Ansem SoD, and Young Xehanort.

 

I also think dark Riku from KH1, Vanitas, and Terra are part of it.

 

the rest of the 13 darkness could be more Xehanort's from different time periods.

 

Or Demyx and Luxord...

 

 

Dude they don't need Ven's heart specifically to form the X-BladeXehanort said it himself that splitting Ven's heart to forge the X-blade was just an experimentThe real way according to Xehanort is to let the 7 Lights and 13 Darkness clash through a Keyblade War

yes and no, read xehanort reports 7,9,12. if xehanort could use any one then why did still go for sora....because ven's heart rest within sora. he focuses on ven at first, in KH2FM there are 2 cutscenes that that tells this one Zexion and Xibar are talking about a chamber of sleep aka the chamber that ven in and how xemas wants it and in the other is xehanort/terra in the other chamber, in in Days/Chain xemas sends out half the Organizion to C.O. to see if they find a chamber. so way do you think xehanort would go to such linths for a "failed" experiment....because it worked.

yes and no, read xehanort reports 7,9,12. if xehanort could use any one then why did still go for sora....because ven's heart rest within sora. he focuses on ven at first, in KH2FM there are 2 cutscenes that that tells this one Zexion and Xibar are talking about a chamber of sleep aka the chamber that ven in and how xemas wants it and in the other is xehanort/terra in the other chamber, in in Days/Chain xemas sends out half the Organizion to C.O. to see if they find a chamber. so way do you think xehanort would go to such linths for a "failed" experiment....because it worked.

True it would be the easiest way for him to win the keyblade war.

Just because he's the 13th Darkness doesn't mean he'll join Organization XIII

 

Also,Xehanort clearly stated that Sora is indeed the 13th Darkness....otherwise why would the Organization go out of it's way to sabotage the Mastery test and lure Sora to TWTNW????

 

It could mean that Sora can now use some Dark powers that Riku was able to use.....that would cool especially in Gameplay

 

If something would happen to Sora there is always the good ol Deus ex Machina plot element to save the day

 

Yes Xehanort said Sora was the intended 13th darkness. The reason the new organization gathered in TWTNW was to welcome the last and final darkness into the organization . However, Lea stopped this from actually happening . Xehanorts original intention was to use Riku, then Roxas ,(  unsuccessfully ) and then they tried to go after Riku one more time in DDD but after realizing he couldn't be used they then targeted Sora as the 13th .

 

the main reson they went for sora is for the X-blade, ven's heart sleeps within sora so if they were to succeed they would have the X-blade thats why because it would have been riku but he's immuned to darkness now and they reliesed that sora has ven's heart. a Xehanort said you can't start a war for KH without the X-blade. also, if someone is the 13th the the darkness eat them and they will do what ever Xehanort says like terra.

 

It has NEVER been confirmed Xehanort knew where Ven's heart is . Also MX stated in game that the method he used in BBS was wrong and made in haste .The Xblade in BBS was incomplete and fractured although the reasons why you can say is retconned  from BBS to DDD.

 

yes and no, read xehanort reports 7,9,12. if xehanort could use any one then why did still go for sora....because ven's heart rest within sora. he focuses on ven at first, in KH2FM there are 2 cutscenes that that tells this one Zexion and Xibar are talking about a chamber of sleep aka the chamber that ven in and how xemas wants it and in the other is xehanort/terra in the other chamber, in in Days/Chain xemas sends out half the Organizion to C.O. to see if they find a chamber. so way do you think xehanort would go to such linths for a "failed" experiment....because it worked.

 

Just bc Xehanort looked for Ven doesn't mean it was to try the method in BBS again since it was a fail anyways. He could want to use him as a darkness like all the rest or it could also be the Terra in him or even both reasons. If all it took was 1vs 1 then there would be no need to gather 7 lights and 13 darknesses- they would only need one of each which is a lot easier to accomplish so what you are saying makes no sense in that regard .They wouldn't even need to use Ven for that . Xehanort could've just found another 1 vs 1 attempt with other people he chose to try again. In DDD he clearly stated that the 1 vs 1 'recipe' was mistaken .

Edited October 8, 201312 yr by Flaming Lea

I think it's going to be someone very, very unexpected, likely either Sora or Ventus.

the main reson they went for sora is for the X-blade, ven's heart sleeps within sora so if they were to succeed they would have the X-blade thats why because it would have been riku but he's immuned to darkness now and they reliesed that sora has ven's heart. a Xehanort said you can't start a war for KH without the X-blade. also, if someone is the 13th the the darkness eat them and they will do what ever Xehanort says like terra.

the reason they went for sora was because of roxas. YX said that Roxas was one of the only 'Worthy Candidates' for the organization. and once again in the game DDD he explained to sora right before he was knocked out into sleep that 'we will need what is left of you' which is DUH ITS ROXAS.

but i'm not saying that Roxas is going to be the thirteenth darkness, its just that they were planning to get Roxas as the thirteenth darkness,  but apparently they failed. i really have no idea what Xehanort is going to do in KH3

the reason they went for sora was because of roxas. YX said that Roxas was one of the only 'Worthy Candidates' for the organization. and once again in the game DDD he explained to sora right before he was knocked out into sleep that 'we will need what is left of you' which is DUH ITS ROXAS.

 Actually, no .It was also explained in game that bc Roxas formed a sense of self they could also no longer use him . As for 'what is left of you' , that's refering to Sora's body as a vessel since his heart was being plunged into an abyss of darkness so he could never wake up .

Edited October 8, 201312 yr by Flaming Lea

Yes Xehanort said Sora was the intended 13th darkness. The reason the new organization gathered in TWTNW was to welcome the last and final darkness into the organization . However, Lea stopped this from actually happening . Xehanorts original intention was to use Riku, then Roxas ,(  unsuccessfully ) and then they tried to go after Riku one more time in DDD but after realizing he couldn't be used they then targeted Sora as the 13th .

 

 

It has NEVER been confirmed Xehanort knew where Ven's heart is . Also MX stated in game that the method he used in BBS was wrong and made in haste .The Xblade in BBS was incomplete and fractured although the reasons why you can say is retconned  from BBS to DDD.

 

 

Just bc Xehanort looked for Ven doesn't mean it was to try the method in BBS again since it was a fail anyways. He could want to use him as a darkness like all the rest or it could also be the Terra in him or even both reasons. If all it took was 1vs 1 then there would be no need to gather 7 lights and 13 darknesses- they would only need one of each which is a lot easier to accomplish so what you are saying makes no sense in that regard .They wouldn't even need to use Ven for that . Xehanort could've just found another 1 vs 1 attempt with other people he chose to try again. In DDD he clearly stated that the 1 vs 1 'recipe' was mistaken .

Exactly,that's what I've been trying to say

 

Xehanort never knew Ven is inside Sora or not...and even if he did...he can do the 1 Vs 1 with anybody capable of wielding a Keyblade

 

Ven is not so special to the point the X-can't be forged without his ass being involved

 

Besides,the 1 Vs 1 was a failure so why in the world would he ever try it again?

Exactly,that's what I've been trying to say

 

Xehanort never knew Ven is inside Sora or not...and even if he did...he can do the 1 Vs 1 with anybody capable of wielding a Keyblade

 

Ven is not so special to the point the X-can't be forged without his ass being involved

 

Besides,the 1 Vs 1 was a failure so why in the world would he ever try it again?

 

Especially since MX himself said that the 'recipe' for the Xblade in BBS was incorrect and that he was mistaken bc he was being 'hasty'. That was pointed out in game on purpose to address the issue of how it really is suppose to be done.

Edited October 8, 201312 yr by Flaming Lea

Yes Xehanort said Sora was the intended 13th darkness. The reason the new organization gathered in TWTNW was to welcome the last and final darkness into the organization . However, Lea stopped this from actually happening . Xehanorts original intention was to use Riku, then Roxas ,(  unsuccessfully ) and then they tried to go after Riku one more time in DDD but after realizing he couldn't be used they then targeted Sora as the 13th .

 

 

It has NEVER been confirmed Xehanort knew where Ven's heart is . Also MX stated in game that the method he used in BBS was wrong and made in haste .The Xblade in BBS was incomplete and fractured although the reasons why you can say is retconned  from BBS to DDD.

 

 

Just bc Xehanort looked for Ven doesn't mean it was to try the method in BBS again since it was a fail anyways. He could want to use him as a darkness like all the rest or it could also be the Terra in him or even both reasons. If all it took was 1vs 1 then there would be no need to gather 7 lights and 13 darknesses- they would only need one of each which is a lot easier to accomplish so what you are saying makes no sense in that regard .They wouldn't even need to use Ven for that . Xehanort could've just found another 1 vs 1 attempt with other people he chose to try again. In DDD he clearly stated that the 1 vs 1 'recipe' was mistaken .

actually he dose know because in the fight with xemnas in kh1fm when he walks though sora, he is making a copy of sora memory for Xion and by going though sora's memory he can see he has ven's memory as well thus proving that he dose know and to prove this theory sora remembered hallow bastion aka radiant garden in the slides from the projector in deep jungle, it explains why Xion looked like ven in the fight with xigbar in days and since she didn't kill Xibar and he being partners with xehanort, he would have told him this and they know sora not a true keyblade master in DDD stating that they know Ven is the reason that he has the keyblade. xehanort isn't trying the method again because its still in play, if you remember in DDD vanitas was in the church, though it was not confirmed if it was vanitas, a illusion, or just ven reacting to xehanort. But ven its still has half a heart and when he's awakened vanitus should awaken too and vanitus's lingering spirit is in the keyblade grave yard. and as for the answer to the other part of your message, xehanort could have been lining he's done it before and read the xehanort reports in bbs

Exactly,that's what I've been trying to say

 

Xehanort never knew Ven is inside Sora or not...and even if he did...he can do the 1 Vs 1 with anybody capable of wielding a Keyblade

 

Ven is not so special to the point the X-can't be forged without his ass being involved

 

Besides,the 1 Vs 1 was a failure so why in the world would he ever try it again?

 

actually he dose know because in the fight with xemnas in kh1fm when he walks though sora, he is making a copy of sora memory for Xion and by going though sora's memory he can see he has ven's memory as well thus proving that he dose know and to prove this theory sora remembered hallow bastion aka radiant garden in the slides from the projector in deep jungle, it explains why Xion looked like ven in the fight with xigbar in days and since she didn't kill Xibar and he being partners with xehanort, he would have told him this and they know sora not a true keyblade master in DDD stating that they know Ven is the reason that he has the keyblade. xehanort isn't trying the method again because its still in play, if you remember in DDD vanitas was in the church, though it was not confirmed if it was vanitas, a illusion, or just ven reacting to xehanort. But ven its still has half a heart and when he's awakened vanitus should awaken too and vanitus's lingering spirit is in the keyblade grave yard. and as for the answer to the other part of your message, xehanort could have been lining he's done it before and read the xehanort reports in bbs

 xehanort also said in DDD to sora "we will need what is left of you" referring to the other heart in sora aka ven.

Oswald of course

actually he dose know because in the fight with xemnas in kh1fm when he walks though sora, he is making a copy of sora memory for Xion and by going though sora's memory he can see he has ven's memory as well thus proving that he dose know and to prove this theory sora remembered hallow bastion aka radiant garden in the slides from the projector in deep jungle, it explains why Xion looked like ven in the fight with xigbar in days and since she didn't kill Xibar and he being partners with xehanort, he would have told him this and they know sora not a true keyblade master in DDD stating that they know Ven is the reason that he has the keyblade. xehanort isn't trying the method again because its still in play, if you remember in DDD vanitas was in the church, though it was not confirmed if it was vanitas, a illusion, or just ven reacting to xehanort. But ven its still has half a heart and when he's awakened vanitus should awaken too and vanitus's lingering spirit is in the keyblade grave yard. and as for the answer to the other part of your message, xehanort could have been lining he's done it before and read the xehanort reports in bbs

 

1.- Sora doesn't have Ven's memories since Ven's heart is dormant . Quit making assumptions based on nothing . As for the slides in Deep Jungle that was KAIRI'S HEART responding not Ven's. You are just throwing out assumptions without proving anything really .It's never been confirmed if Xehanort definitely knew.Even If he did he doesn't need Ven to try another attempt at a 1vs 1 recipe . He could use someone else a lot easier .If thats all it took why take 10 plus years to gather 7 lights and 13 darknesses ? Sounds like a total waste of time and makes no sense AT ALL if Xehanort was " lying". Also it is stated that the original Xblade was split into 20 pieces - 7 light and 13 dark and that's why the correct 'recipe' needs that amount .

 

2- Xion looking like Ven to Xigbar still doesn't prove they knew anything since her appearance changed to everyone depending on who saw her .As for DDD, Xigbar was trolling Sora on purpose to get him to fall to darkness. Ven ISNT THE REASON Sora can wield and Nomura has confirmed this over and over . Nomura has also stated the only thing Ven gives Sora is the ability to dual wield . Sora was basically chosen by the keyblade regardless when in the end of KH1 it chose him for good . He now wields his own keyblade and dual wields with Ven's and when Ven's heart returns Sora still wields his own keyblade just like he did without Ven's heart from the end of Kh1 all the way through CoM. He was the only wielder to not receive the keyblade ceremony to get chosen but still ended up chosen anyways when the keyblade  chose to stay with him . This was also confirmed by Nomura . Nomura = canon .

 

3- Vanitas' appearance was explained and confirmed :

 

What about Vanitas?

Nomura: Vanitas is different than Xemnas and Ansem; he doesn’t necessarily have a physical form. He reacted to Ventus within Sora, so that’s how he was visible

 

4- It has been confirmed in game that the bbs method was wrong period . I have read the reports in BBS thanks .And like I said, MX purporsely addressed in game he was wrong so now you are just making wild assumptions with nothing to back it up . I suggest you read the interviews bc you seem to lack a lot of info in your argument .

 

5-  'what is left of you ' is refering to using Sora's body as the last vessel as his heart was being plunged into darkness to never awaken again as stated IN GAME .

Edited October 8, 201312 yr by Flaming Lea

actually he dose know because in the fight with xemnas in kh1fm when he walks though sora, he is making a copy of sora memory for Xion and by going though sora's memory he can see he has ven's memory as well thus proving that he dose know and to prove this theory sora remembered hallow bastion aka radiant garden in the slides from the projector in deep jungle, it explains why Xion looked like ven in the fight with xigbar in days and since she didn't kill Xibar and he being partners with xehanort, he would have told him this and they know sora not a true keyblade master in DDD stating that they know Ven is the reason that he has the keyblade. xehanort isn't trying the method again because its still in play, if you remember in DDD vanitas was in the church, though it was not confirmed if it was vanitas, a illusion, or just ven reacting to xehanort. But ven its still has half a heart and when he's awakened vanitus should awaken too and vanitus's lingering spirit is in the keyblade grave yard. and as for the answer to the other part of your message, xehanort could have been lining he's done it before and read the xehanort reports in bbs xehanort also said in DDD to sora "we will need what is left of you" referring to the other heart in sora aka ven.

No he isn't and he can't access all of Sora's memory because Xion died before she can absorb all of Sora's memory Also,Xemnas didn't make the copy of Sora's memories.It was Vexen ....And even if he had access to Sora's memory he will never know where Ventus is because Sora himself doesn't remember Ven and even if he did he won't know that Ven's heart is inside him And no "We will need what left of you" refers to Sora's body...which is why MX TRIED TO POSSESS HIS BODY BEFORE LEA SAVED HIM Xehanort doesn't need Ventus anymore to forge the keyblade....that bratty asshole is useless now.....and trying that method will once again give him an incomplete X-blade like before. Besides,Ven isn't the reason Sora has the Keyblade...he's the reason that Sora can use Dual wielding ....nothing else....Sora can still use the Keyblade even if the heart of that firetrucker escaped from his body a Serious question:Have you played DDD or paid attention to what happened at the last world....because by what I've seen in your post you're missing on a lot of details

No he isn't and he can't access all of Sora's memory because Xion died before she can absorb all of Sora's memory

 

Also,Xemnas didn't make the copy of Sora's memories.It was Vexen ....And even if he had access to Sora's memory he will never know where Ventus is because Sora himself doesn't remember Ven and even if he did he won't know that Ven's heart is inside him

 

And no "We will need what left of you" refers to Sora's body...which is why MX TRIED TO POSSESS HIS BODY BEFORE LEA SAVED HIM

 

Xehanort doesn't need Ventus anymore to forge the keyblade....that bratty asshole is useless now.....and trying that method will once again give him an incomplete X-blade like before.

 

Besides,Ven isn't the reason Sora has the Keyblade...he's the reason that Sora can use Dual wielding ....nothing else....Sora can still use the Keyblade even if the heart of that f.ucker escaped from his body

 

a Serious question:Have you played DDD or paid attention to what happened at the last world....because by what I've seen in your post you're missing on a lot of details

 

 

I agree with all of this pretty much except to say although Vexen made Xion she was also made from the encounter with Xemnas in Kh1. Vexen used the same method on Riku though so I can see where you would get that . If you remember, Xion joined the organization 7 days after Roxas did and before the events of CoM occurred.

Edited October 8, 201312 yr by Flaming Lea

I agree with all of this pretty much except to say although Vexen made Xion she was also made from the encounter with Xemnas in Kh1. Vexen used the same method on Riku though so I can see where you would get that . If you remember, Xion joined the organization 7 days after Roxas did and before the events of CoM occurred.

I think you're right but I'm sure Vexen knows something that the other members don't

 

And I'm still baffled how some people think Ven is essential to Xehanort's plan when in reality he isn't...the experiment in BBS proved to be a failure so why in the hell would Xehanort repeat the same failed experiment again?